Episode 11 - Jonathan Dekle: Systems Minded Explorer
From Psychedelics Then and Now with Zach Leary by Zach Leary/Psychedelics Today
December 5, 2025 · 1h 1m · Episode 11
About this episode
Jonathan Dekle discusses the modern psychedelic movement and the importance of cognitive liberty.
Episode 11 - Jonathan Dekle: Systems Minded Explorer This episode was such a blast to do! Jonathan is a wonderful thinker, raconteur and voyager of all things cosmic. His takes on the modern psychedelic movement is spot on as he points out the successes and pitfalls of what we're facing as a community. Our conversation took a look at legacy holders, transformation, low dose DMT and the importance of cognitive liberty. Jonathans voice is not to be missed! Jonathan Dekle is an entrepreneur, philosopher, and systems-minded explorer of consciousness whose work bridges technology, psychedelics, and human transformation. A former systems engineer who spent decades in the digital world, Jonathan now applies that same architecture of logic and interdependence to the inner terrain of the mind — where emotion, memory, and awareness form their own kind of code. His path began through an interest in natural medicines for alcohol use disorder , a deeply personal search for equilibrium and repair. Over time, that curiosity evolved into a broader inquiry into the role of psychedelics as tools for integration and creativity , and the responsibilities that come with their use. Jonathan speaks and…
People in this episode
Host: Zach Leary
Guest: Jonathan Dekle
Topics covered
- psychedelics
- cognitive liberty
- human transformation
- modern ceremonies
- low dose DMT
- community challenges
Keywords
- psychedelics
- cognitive liberty
- DMT
- human transformation
- natural medicines
- community
- ceremonies
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