
Pursuing Freedom: Helping Realtors & Mortgage Lenders Build Profitable, Scalable Businesses and Lives They Love — No Hustle, No Burnout
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How to Start Investing in Commercial Real Estate (Without a Million Dollars) with Beth Azor
Jul 31, 2026
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How to Never Have a Broke Month Again with Dan Rochon
Jul 24, 2026
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Why Your Nervous System Isn't the Problem
Jul 17, 2026
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How to Build a Million-Dollar Business Without Burning Out
Jul 10, 2026
27m 37s
How to Lead in the Messy Middle Without Burning Out
Jul 3, 2026
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| 7/31/26 | How to Start Investing in Commercial Real Estate (Without a Million Dollars) with Beth Azor | Of all commercial real estate investors, only 3% are women – and when Beth Azor learned that stat, she decided to frickin' change it. In this episode, Erin sits down with the woman affectionately known as The Canvassing Queen®: founder and CEO of Azor Advisory Services, owner of three Florida shopping centers valued at over $75 million, and founder of the Women's Real Estate Investment Summit, where Erin has had the joy of speaking – and riding the famous four-hour bus tour of the town Beth practically owns. Beth's story starts with an $11,000-a-year nonprofit salary and a real estate license she'd had since age 18. It took a boss literally marching her to a bank to co-sign a $50,000 note – on the condition she invest 20% of every commission from then on – to turn a high-earning spender into an investor. Eight LP deals later, she went out on her own as a GP, and today she's the co-GP of a $32 million asset she waited thirteen years to buy. Yes, thirteen. That story alone (Mr. G, the quarterly "no," and the pivot to pure relationship-building) is worth the listen – and so is the one about crashing a utility company's remote HQ with cupcakes. Whether you've never heard the terms LP and GP or you're ready to raise capital for your first deal, Beth breaks the path down into steps any woman can start this week: pick an asset class, find an expert, invest passively first, and watch how it's done. Because as Beth's community proves – 68 women stood up at this year's summit having invested with someone in the room – you don't have to do it alone. Listen in as Erin and Beth discuss: The boss who called her "a freaking idiot" (with love), co-signed her first $50K investment, and made her bank 20% of every commission The stat that lit the fire: only 3% of commercial real estate investors are women – and most inherited it or signed on a husband's guarantee Why "we don't know any other women doing it" is the real barrier – and how the Women's Real Estate Investment Summit is dismantling it LP vs. GP, explained in plain English: preferred returns, refinances, and why LPs end up "playing with house money" Beth's starting playbook: pick your asset class, find an expert, LP first, and watch the GP How GPs raise capital – including the empty Wells Fargo bank deal where Beth raised $3.2M from 22 people in four days Beth's non-negotiable: never invest with a GP who has no skin in the game The 13-year Mr. G story: how persistence plus genuine relationship turned "no, click" into co-GP of a $32M asset The cupcake story: how a Friday-afternoon delivery did what eight men yelling couldn't Women Investor Wednesdays, the March 2027 summit, and how to get in the room About Affectionately known as The Canvassing Queen®, Beth Azor is the founder and CEO of Azor Advisory Services (AAS), a leading commercial real estate advisory and investment firm based in Davie, Florida. As its principal, Beth currently owns and manages three shopping centers in Florida valued at over $75M. She travels the U.S. consulting with, brokering deals for, and training associates in the commercial real estate industry, with clients including Phillips Edison & Co., Brixmor Properties, The Shopping Center Group, Urban Edge Development, DLC Management Group, and Bedrock. Beth is the author of Don't Say No for the Prospect (2019) and The Retail Leasing Playbook (2020), the founder of the Women's Real Estate Investment Summit – on a mission to get more women investing in real estate and growing their families' wealth – and co-founder of the South Florida Independent Retailer Awards®. Her newly created AI bot "Ask Beth" is a compilation of her 900 YouTube videos and 300 podcast episodes. A graduate of FSU, Beth is founder and past Chairwoman of the FSU Real Estate Foundation, past President of HOPE Outreach Center in Davie, and co-founder of 100+ Women Who Care in South Florida. She is a single mom to a superhero movie podcaster and an aspiring pro golfer – and she recently walked 250 miles of the Camino de Santiago across Spain. How to Connect With Beth Azor Website: https://www.bethazor.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bethazor/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/azoradvisoryservices Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bethazor/ Recommended Resources Women's Real Estate Investment Summit – March 3 – 5, 2027, registration opens September; only ~60 of 250 seats left: https://thewomeninvestmentsummit.com/ Women Investor Wednesday podcast – Beth interviews a woman investor every Wednesday (want to be a guest? She wants startup stories, even your first VRBO): https://www.bethazor.com/beths-podcasts/ Don't Say No for the Prospect by Beth Azor: https://www.bethazor.com/product/dont-say-no-for-the-prospect-how-1-went-from-a-sales-rookie-to-a-retail-leasing-rockstar/ The Retail Leasing Playbook by Beth Azor: https://www.amazon.com/Retail-Leasing-Playbook-Beth-Ratzan/dp/0578224208 "Ask Beth" AI bot – 900 videos and 300 podcast episodes' worth of answers: https://www.bethazor.com Happiness & Fulfillment Assessment: https://pursuingfreedom.com/happiness Pursuing Freedom Collective: https://pursuingfreedom.com/collective Get a copy of Pursuing Freedom on Amazon: https://amzn.to/46o7m7z Subscribe to the Pursuing Freedom podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify for weekly inspiration and strategies. | — | ||||||
| 7/24/26 | How to Never Have a Broke Month Again with Dan Rochon | What does it take to go almost 20 years in real estate without a single broke month? In this episode, Erin sits down with Dan Rochon — real estate veteran, founder of the Consistent and Predictable Income (CPI) Community, host of the No Broke Months podcast, and author of the new book Teach to Sell: Why Top Performers Never Sell — And What They Do Instead. Dan's story starts on his bathroom floor in 2005, the morning he got sober after nearly two decades of struggle. Two years later, a friend's question — "You ever think about real estate sales?" — set him on a path from waiting tables in D.C. to buying the Keller Williams brokerage he worked for, and to a track record most agents only dream of: no broke months since 2008. The best part? Dan insists there's no magic to it. He walks us through the exact framework: waking up every morning "unemployed," spending 1–3 hours a day finding business no matter how busy you get, the 11 activities that actually make you money, and his Teach to Sell method — guiding clients through predictable problems before they happen so you become trusted, wanted, and referred instead of chasing and convincing. If you're tired of the feast-or-famine rollercoaster, this conversation is your way off. Listen in as Erin and Dan discuss: Dan's rock-bottom morning in 2005, getting sober, and discovering real estate as his path to entrepreneurship Why he leaned into the 2008 crash — and how "there's always a reason to look at the suck" The 5 daily activities in your business, the 5 on your business, plus the one habit Dan never skips: visiting his money every morning How to break the feast-or-famine cycle: 1–3 hours a day, 5 days a week, no matter what The four pillars of a business owner — belief, finding business, leverage, and leadership What Teach to Sell really means: consulting clients through predictable problems before they happen (including the home inspection story every agent needs to hear) Why "the circumstances change, the technology changes, but the fundamentals never do" Where to grab Teach to Sell and unlock the four-pillar bonus course (formerly a $10,000 program) About Dan Rochon is on a mission to help 1,000,000 people sell without selling by teaching them how to think through Teach to Sell. Founder of the Consistent and Predictable Income (CPI) Community and host of the No Broke Months for Salespeople podcast, Dan is a master of human behavior, influence, and the psychology of success, and a certified practitioner of Humanistic Neurolinguistic Psychology and Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP). Dan doesn't just teach theory — he lives it. Since 2008, he has maintained a flawless track record of No Broke Months in real estate sales, averaging ten sales a month, all while building and selling a Keller Williams brokerage he led as operating partner for a decade. He is the author of Teach to Sell: Why Top Performers Never Sell — And What They Do Instead and Real Estate Evolution: The Ten-Step Guide to CPI. A TEDx and keynote speaker, his expertise has been featured on The Nightly News with Brian Williams, The Today Show, CNBC, and The Washington Post. How to Connect With Dan Rochon Website: https://www.TeachtoSellBook.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danrochon Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danrochonx/ Podcast: No Broke Months for Salespeople — https://nobrokemonthspodcast.simplecast.com/ Recommended Resources Teach to Sell: Why Top Performers Never Sell — And What They Do Instead by Dan Rochon (released June 23, 2026) — get the book plus the free four-pillar companion course (a former $10,000 program) at https://www.TeachtoSellBook.com Happiness & Fulfillment Assessment: https://pursuingfreedom.com/happiness Pursuing Freedom Collective: https://pursuingfreedom.com/collective Get a copy of Pursuing Freedom on Amazon: https://amzn.to/46o7m7z Subscribe to the Pursuing Freedom podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pursuing-freedom/id1385086390) or Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/59YFf0QJ64o35Wc53JGcbi) for weekly inspiration and strategies. | — | ||||||
| 7/17/26 | emotional integrationtrauma healing+4 | Ashley Coffey | Ashley Coffey Coaching | — | emotional integrationtrauma healing+6 | — | 25m 02s | ||
| 7/10/26 | burnoutmindset shifts+3 | Ryann Gillen | Business TherapyPursuing Freedom | — | burnoutentrepreneurship+5 | — | 27m 37s | ||
| 7/3/26 | leadershipburnout+4 | Summer Jelinek | Walt Disney WorldDisney Institute+2 | — | leadershipburnout+5 | — | 28m 52s | ||
| 6/26/26 | business operationsentrepreneurship+4 | Ral West | Alaska Airlines | — | business growthdelegation+3 | — | 29m 35s | ||
| 6/19/26 | burnoutauthenticity+4 | Arynne Crane | Lead Flow Formula | — | real estateburnout+5 | — | 27m 35s | ||
| 6/12/26 | real estate investinglegal considerations+3 | Joette Trinh | Connecticut and Massachusetts barsPursuing Freedom Podcast+1 | — | real estateinvesting+5 | — | 26m 18s | ||
| 6/5/26 | personal transformationself-awareness+3 | James Henson | Walk Through Open DoorsPursuing Freedom+5 | — | executive coachmeditation+5 | — | 34m 37s | ||
| 5/29/26 | hustle culturenervous system regulation+4 | Roberta Ravella | The Joy Experiment | — | burnoutentrepreneurship+3 | — | 42m 14s | ||
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| 5/15/26 | real estate lead generationbusiness simplification+5 | — | — | — | 25% Rulereal estate+6 | — | 42m 42s | ||
| 5/1/26 | personal growthspiritual development+4 | Tracy Litt | The School of BecomingSUCCESS Magazine+1 | — | fearmindset+5 | — | 39m 47s | ||
| 4/24/26 | community growthentrepreneurship+3 | Kristen Cantrell | Hello Culture | — | real estatecommunity building+3 | — | 25m 55s | ||
| 4/17/26 | money mindsetlimiting beliefs+3 | Sarah Walton | Pursuing Freedomsarahwalton.com+4 | — | money mindsetabundance+3 | — | 36m 35s | ||
| 4/10/26 | commercial real estateinvestment strategies+4 | Pamela Goodwin | Pursuing FreedomIcons of Real Estate+2 | — | commercial real estateinvestment business+5 | — | 34m 45s | ||
| 4/3/26 | personal growthmentorship+3 | Alexis Morgan | Pursuing Freedom | — | real estateentrepreneurship+3 | — | 32m 29s | ||
| 3/27/26 | time managementenergy management+3 | — | — | — | freedom formulatime tracking+3 | — | 21m 31s | ||
| 3/20/26 | referralsbusiness growth+3 | — | — | — | referral strategybusiness connections+3 | — | 29m 06s | ||
| 3/13/26 | business planningclient relationships+3 | — | — | — | 25% Rulelighthouse business+5 | — | 43m 01s | ||
| 3/6/26 | leveragebusiness systems+4 | Beth Allen | Sound Home ConnectionsPursuing Freedom | — | leverage shiftbusiness growth+4 | — | 37m 02s | ||
| 2/27/26 | fear loopboundaries+4 | — | — | — | freedomabundance+4 | — | 33m 59s | ||
| 2/20/26 | Busy Isn't Stable: How to Break the Pipeline Seesaw with Erin Bradley | Today's episode on How to Break the Pipeline Seesaw includes: If you find yourself "back in the valley," remember: you're still at a higher elevation than where you started — progress isn't always linear, but it's still progress. "Busy" can look like success, but without structure it doesn't compound — you end up back at zero after every closing cycle. Erin's rule of thumb: 90 days of consistent activity → results (more conversations, more value, more outreach) and then another runway before revenue fully reflects it. The real growth unlock isn't just an action plan — it's an energy shift from regret/fear to hope/confidence, so your actions become magnetic instead of forced. The moment your pipeline "pops" is the moment to plan for success: earmark funds, build a runway, and put systems/support in place before busyness dries your pipeline again. About Erin Bradley Erin Bradley is a speaker and business coach, bestselling author, and host of the real estate podcast Pursuing Freedom. As a mortgage lender, Erin learned the hard way just how hard entrepreneurship and success in sales can be. From flat broke to 6 figures, and then to burnout, Erin and her team have been through it all! Erin operates under the mindset that you never give up, and you never settle, in life or in business. Anything is possible when you have the right mindset, great systems, and an amazing team. Erin is passionate about helping others design their ideal life, then create a business that is a vehicle to support that lifestyle, rather than rob you of it. And she's on a mission to help you believe in, and achieve your biggest dreams! How to Connect With Erin Bradley Business Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/PursuingFreedomOfficial Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pursuingfreedomofficial/ LinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erin-bradley/ Recommended Resources Get a copy of Pursuing Freedom on Amazon here. Subscribe to the Pursuing Freedom podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or your podcatcher of choice for weekly inspiration and strategies. Pursuing Freedom Collective: https://pursuingfreedom.com/collective | — | ||||||
| 2/13/26 | HI Beats AI: How to Generate More Referrals Through Human Connection with Michael J. Maher | Listen in as Erin and Michael discuss: How Michael accidentally launched a referral engine in his first year by hosting a housewarming party for his very first clients — and walked away with 11 referrals from a single event. The "What's Next" concept: Every interaction should naturally lead to a future interaction Why events are especially powerful for introverts: you don't need 50 one-to-one conversations when an event creates hundreds of conversations about you. How Michael scaled from solo production into a "system of systems" team The future of business in the AI era: The winners won't be the ones who out-tech everyone — they'll be the ones who "out-touch" through HI (Human Interaction), supported by AI. About Michael Maher understands the power of Referrals. He is the epitome of how a life can change through the power of connection. Born in a shack in a small town in Kansas, he used his curiosity and humility to build a network that fed him and his business over 500 referrals annually in a business where 5 referrals in a year was above average. His company rapidly earned millions. Then he wrote a book called (7L) The Seven Levels of Communication: Go from Relationships to Referrals. His network spread the word about this book so fast that it became an Amazon bestseller in just 7 days and has been a bestseller for over 11 years! That book spurred a movement and then a community, The Generosity Generation. This global referral community exchanges referrals daily - and you may be invited to become a part of it. His company, REFERCO, is the foremost authority on business referrals. Michael's network and client list includes presidents and billionaires. He has shared the stage with George W Bush, Tony Robbins, Barbara Corcoran, and Magic Johnson. He's coached many people you've heard of. Today, he is here to help us. Even though Michael has been given many wonderful titles by the business world, the titles that mean the most to him are husband and father. Michael grew up in Kansas City, and now lives in Atlanta, GA with his wife Sheri, son Max, and their dog Miles. Michael wants to help you build a business that not only feeds your family, but also feeds your soul. Today, you will get some insights on the power of referrals from someone who lives it, breathes it, loves it, and teaches it. A true master. He walks his talk. It is my pleasure to introduce you to my friend, my colleague, Michael J. Maher. How to Connect With Michael Website: www.JoinGenGen.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@GETREFERRALS LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-j-maher-159872366/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/joingengen Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michael.j.maher/ Recommended Resources www.TheBookOnReferrals.com www.ReferralsPodcast.com | — | ||||||
| 2/6/26 | Why Success Still Feels Empty (and How to Build a Business That Feels Like Freedom) with Erin Bradley | Listen in as Erin shares how: Success can look great on paper and still feel empty. The hamster wheel is real — and it usually started with fear. Growth doesn't have to mean more effort. To rewrite the identity, not the to-do list. Turn your database into a community. About Erin Bradley Erin Bradley is a speaker and business coach, bestselling author, and host of the real estate podcast Pursuing Freedom. As a mortgage lender, Erin learned the hard way just how hard entrepreneurship and success in sales can be. From flat broke to 6 figures, and then to burnout, Erin and her team have been through it all! Erin operates under the mindset that you never give up, and you never settle, in life or in business. Anything is possible when you have the right mindset, great systems, and an amazing team. Erin is passionate about helping others design their ideal life, then create a business that is a vehicle to support that lifestyle, rather than rob you of it. And she's on a mission to help you believe in, and achieve your biggest dreams! How to Connect With Erin Bradley Business Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/PursuingFreedomOfficial Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pursuingfreedomofficial/ LinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erin-bradley/ Recommended Resources Happiness & Fulfillment Assessment: https://pursuingfreedom.com/happiness Pursuing Freedom Collective: https://pursuingfreedom.com/collective Get a copy of Pursuing Freedom on Amazon here. Subscribe to the Pursuing Freedom podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or your podcatcher of choice for weekly inspiration and strategies. | — | ||||||
| 1/30/26 | The Shortcut to Your Goals: Belief, Grit & Mentorship with Ruben Gonzalez | Listen in as Erin and Ruben discuss: How perseverance (not talent) was Ruben's edge — he decided early to stop quitting. How Ruben reverse-engineered a plan around his strengths and chose the luge because it rewarded tenacity and outlasting the quitters. The power of mentorship as a true "shortcut": borrow someone else's belief, follow their proven path, and stop arguing logical reasons you can't do it. Proximity + authenticity win: your energy is the currency, and habits change in the right rooms. … and much more! About Ruben Gonzalez is a common man who achieved extraordinary things. He wasn't a gifted athlete. In school he was always the last kid picked to play sports. He didn't take up the sport of luge until he was 21. Four years and a few broken bones later, Ruben was competing in the Calgary Winter Olympics. When he competed at the Vancouver Olympics at the age of 47, Ruben became the first person to ever compete in four Winter Olympics each in a different decade. Since 2002 Ruben has spoken for over 100 of the Fortune 500 companies. He's considered one of the top motivational and inspirational speakers in America. His bestselling books have sold over 300,000 copies and have been translated to over 10 languages. His incredible story takes people's excuses away and fills them with the belief and inspiration to face their challenges and fight for their goals and dreams. People buy into what Ruben teaches because they can relate to him. How to Connect With Ruben Website: TheLugeMan.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruben-gonzalez-olympian/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thelugeman Recommended Resources Success Principles Coaching: RubenU.com Ruben's latest book: TheShortcutBook.com Pursuing Freedom Podcast interview with Damon Lembi | — | ||||||
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