Raincoast Radio

For the finale of this season “More than a fish”, we’re switching it up! The roles are reversed – host Auston Chhor is interviewed by our podcast producer, Sofia Osborne, and is put in the hot seat to ponder some of the complex questions he’s thrown at guests throughout the previous episodes. Auston is a Salmon Habitat Biologist for Raincoast’s wild salmon program, and a Registered Professional Biologist. He received a BSc in Biology from Queen’s University and went on to complete a Master’s of Science at Carleton University under Dr. Steven Cooke, where he studied how catch-and-release angling impacts the behaviour of fish – basically, what happens to fish when you catch them and let them go, and what fishers can do to minimize their impacts when doing this. Spoiler alert: fish don’t like being out of water! Read more:Show notesAuston’s notes from the field working in the NicolaSee how they fly the drone and snorkel survey the Coldwater RiverLearn more about Raincoast’s salmon programKeep up with Raincoast’s events calendar to see when Auston or others host meet-upsSubscribe to Raincoast’s newsletter

Are you a student or someone wanting to break into the environmental career sector? A 20- or 30-something grappling with the question of getting your master’s? This is the episode for you!In this installment of “More than a fish”, host Auston Chhor sits down with Jason Hwang, Chief Program Officer and Vice President Salmon with Pacific Salmon Foundation. He is also joining the selection committee for the 2025 Raincoast Ocean Science Awards, happening on November 20th at the Vancouver Aquarium. Jason began as a habitat biologist at Fisheries and Oceans Canada for the BC Interior North region. Growing up in North Delta, he spent his weekends fishing and was naturally drawn to what was under the water’s surface. Now, he oversees and supports all PSF salmon initiatives, working with First Nations, crown government agencies, other NGOs, academia, and industry. As Jason states early on in the conversation, he knows just as well as anyone else working in this realm that there is no “career in conservation for dummies” handbook. As someone who sifts through many resumes from hundreds of applicants, Auston asks what Jason looks for in potential hires. The response may not be what you expect … i.e., it’s not necessarily a MSc next to your name.“Say I’m talking to you and your twin brother, and your twin brother went and got his master’s, and you spent two years carrying an electrofisher up through devil’s club streams in the middle of the North doing fish salvage for a pipeline… I start to ask you ‘How would you mitigate the effects of a road or a pipeline and maintain conservation priorities for natural resources?’… you are going to have a lot of hands-on knowledge to actually do something.”Jason shares what stands out to him, and how getting a role in an environment that is solely academically oriented is like making the NHL … but the other roles are there for those who can find a way to take what they’ve learned in science and academic training and combine it with applied, real-world experience. This is a marketable skill that generally isn’t taught in a university classroom.The reality? This career space isn’t black and white — it’s not academia versus industry, good versus evil. Don’t be afraid to ask questions, challenge common paths, and approach your next move with curiosity over rigidity.Additional resources:Career opportunities with PSFConservation Careers job boardInterview with Jason for the Raincoast Ocean Science AwardsSubscribe to Raincoast’s newsletter to be the first to hear about job opportunities!Raincoast Radio is hosted by Auston Chhor and produced by Sofia Osborne. This podcast is a production of Raincoast Conservation Foundation, a team of conservationists and scientists empowered by research to protect the lands, waters and wildlife of coastal British Columbia. Learn more and support our work at raincoast.org

In this episode, host Auston Chhor sits down with Tom Rutherford, Executive Director of the Cowichan Watershed Board. Tom has been involved in building partnerships to support community empowerment for salmon and watershed sustainability over nearly 40 years. Over the course of a long career with Fisheries and Oceans Canada and working with Living Rivers / British Columbia Conservation Foundation, Tom has evolved into a talented science communicator.What even is a watershed board? This is the question Auston first asks Tom, getting the conversation flowing into how the practice of opening ears can open minds, and lead to opening doors for opportunity. In Tom’s work with the board, he highlights the need to listen, shift perceptions, and consider the concept of whether we have enough science, but need more social science.“My theory is there’s not enough of us who are engaged professionally in this work to make a difference. In order to move the needle, we have to bring everyone along with us.”A solution? Outreach and engagement. Tom and Auston provide some examples of great science communication, and discuss how it can occasionally be looked at condescendingly, or completely overlooked altogether. Other topics include: the 2003 Chinook crisis in the Cowichan River, the 2023 unprecedented fish mortality event, a six foot tall dancing Chinook, and how things aren’t going to be the same, but they’re going to be okay (if we take action). Additional resources:Cowichan Watershed BoardTom’s home waters: Kelvin Creek Watershed, a small tributary of the KoksilahThe 2003 Chinook Crisis in the Cowichan RiverPoisonous shellfish warnings on Vancouver IslandWatershed superheroes, Water WomanMr. Floatie, Victoria’s dancing piece of poop to advocate for water treatmentChinook Shimmy, Cowichan Watershed Board’s dancing salmon2023 fish mortality event Raincoast Radio is hosted by Auston Chhor and produced by Sofia Osborne. This podcast is a production of Raincoast Conservation Foundation, a team of conservationists and scientists empowered by research to protect the lands, waters and wildlife of coastal British Columbia. Learn more and support our work at raincoast.org

A salmon habitat biologist and a recreational angler sit down to record a podcast…Some say that scientists may butt heads with those who love fishing, but the two groups have more in common than one may think. This week, Auston Chhor chats with Rodney Hsu, founder and host of the popular YouTube channel Fishing with Rod, whose videos have amassed over 23 million views. Auston himself learned how to fish by watching Rod’s content, and has been a longtime fan and subscriber (one of the channel’s 81,000 of them). Rod first started the channel in 2001, teaching those who tuned in about saltwater and freshwater angling throughout BC. He’s a prominent voice for the recreational angling community, serving as a public advisor for the Freshwater Fisheries Society of BC and a representative of Fisheries and Oceans Canada Upper Fraser Valley Sport Fishing Advisory Committee. The two discuss Rod’s 25-year journey building the brand and how it evolved into an online cornucopia of information for those wanting to break into the world of fishing in BC, a space where the knowledge gap can be vast and intimidating with regulations and timing, let alone technique. “There’s a lot of misunderstanding… I think most people who get into fishing really want to do the right thing. No one intentionally wants to harm fish, or poach, or do anything illegal, and it’s really hard to follow the regulations. That’s where I came in, to bridge that gap.” – Rodney HsuThe conversation goes on to explore the impact of catch and release angling, hot button issues between the recreational sector and decisionmakers, as well as fishing being a pathway to caring.“We all want the same thing — we all want sustainability in salmon returns. We just disagree on a few other things… like how to achieve that.” – Rodney HsuAdditional resources: Fishing with Rod YouTubeInstagramFacebookTikTokWebsiteVideo with Dave Scott: Reclaiming Fraser River Estuary for Juvenile Pacific Salmon | Fishing with RodKeep Fish Wet: Science-based advice to help anglers improve the outcome for each fish they release New study reveals pathways to transform conflict over contentious salmon and killer whale management in BC; Identifying opportunities towards conflict transformation in an Orca-Salmon-Human systemRaincoast Radio is hosted by Auston Chhor and produced by Sofia Osborne. This podcast is a production of Raincoast Conservation Foundation, a team of conservationists and scientists empowered by research to protect the lands, waters and wildlife of coastal British Columbia. Learn more and support our work at raincoast.org

We’re back with a brand new season of Raincoast Radio! In the upcoming episodes, we’ll focus on the icon of the west coast, an essential life force that has spawned entire cultures and reminds us just how interconnected everything is: pacific salmon. Hosted by Raincoast salmon habitat biologist Auston Chhor, More than a fish plunges into questions surrounding this complex species, speaking with people from a variety of backgrounds working towards a better future for them. Whether you’re an expert, or simply wanting to dip your toe into their underwater world — we can all learn something from salmon.So, what makes salmon more than a fish? Let’s dive in — Raincoast Radio, new episodes coming soon.Raincoast Radio is hosted by Auston Chhor and produced by Sofia Osborne. This podcast is a production of Raincoast Conservation Foundation, a team of conservationists and scientists empowered by research to protect the lands, waters and wildlife of coastal British Columbia. Learn more and support our work at raincoast.org

In this episode, large carnivore expert and Raincoast Senior Scientist Dr. Paul Paquet recounts some of his most impactful and memorable experiences from over 50 years of studying wolves around the world. From Russia, Ukraine, Poland, and the Carpathian mountains in Europe to Nunavut, Northwest Territories, and the Canadian Rockies, Paul was drawn to wherever wolves roamed. This included his time in northern Alaska with wolf researcher Bob Stevenson and author Barry Lopez, during the period when Lopez was writing Of Wolves and Men.Paul reflects on the profound impact the women featured in this series have had on both his life and his understanding of wolves. He shares the inspiration behind curating the Of wolves and women series, emphasizing how important it was to recognize these women for their remarkable contributions in a truly special way. After speaking with Paul, it became evident just how humble these women are about their achievements, despite the lasting impact they’ve had — and continue to have — on the field of wolf research and conservation.Finally, we discuss the core principles and values that have guided, and continue to guide, Raincoast’s work — emphasizing the importance of preserving scientific integrity, upholding ethical and moral frameworks in decision-making, and cultivating authentic, enduring relationships with Indigenous governments and communities.Paul Paquet is a senior scientist with the Raincoast Conservation Foundation and an Adjunct Associate professor at the University of Victoria in the Department of Geography where he works closely with the Raincoast Applied Conservation Science Lab. As a world authority in conservation science, Paul has more than 50 years of scholarly and applied research experience. His research includes terrestrial mammals, marine mammals and birds, wildlife diseases, and genetics. He is recognized internationally as an expert on the ecology, behaviour and management of mammalian carnivores, especially wolves and bears. His studies span North America, Europe, Mid-East, and the Pacific Ocean. Paul’s research focuses on the interface between ecological theory and conservation, science and policy, and environmental ethics. He has spent decades covering subjects ranging from the worldwide decline of large carnivores to the philosophical relationship of ethics, animal welfare, and conservation; co-authoring more than 200 scholarly articles and co-editing several books addressing ecology, conservation, and environmental ethics. Dr. Paquet holds graduate degrees in philosophy, wildlife management and conservation, biology, and a PhD in zoology from University of Alberta. Academic appointments include Adjunct Professor of Biology and Associate Professor of Environmental Design at the University of Calgary, Adjunct Professor at University of Saskatchewan College of Veterinary Medicine, Adjunct Professor of Zoology at University of Manitoba, and Faculty Associate at Guelph University and University of New Brunswick. Paul serves on science advisory committees for Environment Canada, US Fish & Wildlife Service, Caribou Scientific Advisory Committee for Saskatchewan, WWF International, the European Union, and several Species Survival Commissions (SSC) of the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN). Additional resources:Books and symphonies mentionedOf Wolves and Men (1978) by Barry LopezWhite Fang (1906) by Jack LondonThe Call of the Wild (1903) by Jack LondonThe Jungle Book (1894) by Rudyard KiplingPeter and the Wolf (1936) by Sergei ProkofievRemembering Chester “Lone Wolf” StarrLearn more about our Wolf Conservation ProgramRaincoast Radio is hosted by Chelsea Greer and produced by Sofia Osborne, with additional audio editing by Oumar Salifou. This podcast is a production of Raincoast Conservation Foundation, a team of conservationists and scientists empowered by research to protect the lands, waters and wildlife of coastal British Columbia. Learn more and support our work at raincoast.org.

In this episode, conservation biologist and genetics researcher Dr. Astrid Vik Stronen discusses her journey into wildlife research and conservation, beginning with her early passion for ecology and evolving into a focus on wildlife genetics and genomics. From tracking wolves through the dense forests and rolling hills of Riding Mountain National Park, Manitoba to analysing hundreds of wolf scats collected in the coastal temperate rainforests of British Columbia, Astrid offers captivating insights and stories from both the field and the lab.Delving into the fascinating world of conservation genetics, we explore an innovative and rapidly expanding field that enables researchers to track and understand wild animals, often with minimal disturbance. Astrid explains that by collecting hair, scats, and other genetic materials, we can create genetic profiles for individual animals, which allow us to assess relatedness among pack members, inbreeding levels, population structure, and even disease movement. She also emphasizes the critical need to preserve genetic diversity and understand how wolves and other wildlife are adapting to the challenges posed by human disturbance and rapid environmental change.Dr. Astrid Vik Stronen is a wildlife biologist and researcher in conservation genetics and ecology, primarily working on wolves and other larger carnivores. Recent research projects include genomic analyses of wild species and threatened domestic breeds in Europe and Canada, including wolves, golden jackals, bears, European bison, Mediterranean monk seals, and native cattle and dog breeds at risk. Astrid is interested in contemporary evolution resulting from human activities, and how we can best preserve wild species and their habitats in the face of rapid environmental change. She also has a strong interest in applied conservation genetics, and in projects that integrate ecology, evolution, and conservation and connect these fields to human dimensions including ethics and human-wildlife interactions. Since 2018, Astrid has been living and working in Ljubljana, Slovenia, as part of the “ekozivali” (animal ecology) group at the University of Ljubljana’s Biotechnical Faculty, and she is also a co-founder and researcher at the Biotechnical Faculty’s spin-out company DivjaLabs. During the past years she has had the chance to participate in several research and conservation projects in Slovenia and beyond, and she appreciates the opportunities to continue to get to know this beautiful and biodiverse region.Additional resources:Astrid Vik Stronen’s researchThe relevance of genetic structure in ecotype designation and conservation management (2022)Population genetic structure of gray wolves (Canis lupus) in a marine archipelago suggests island-mainland differentiation consistent with dietary niche (2014)Canid hybridization: Contemporary evolution in human‐modified landscapes (2012)WOLFNESS - Biodiversa+Films featuring Gudrun PflügerA Woman Among WolvesRunning With WolvesLearn more about our Wolf Conservation ProgramRaincoast Radio is hosted by Chelsea Greer and produced by Sofia Osborne, with additional audio editing by Oumar Salifou. This podcast is a production of Raincoast Conservation Foundation, a team of conservationists and scientists empowered by research to protect the lands, waters and wildlife of coastal British Columbia. Learn more and support our work at raincoast.org.

In this episode, international lawyer and natural resource ecologist Susan Bragdon discusses her early work as a young girl studying wolves in captivity. She shares the groundbreaking discovery her observations led to about the role of female wolves, challenging the biases that had shaped previous understandings. We also explore the dynamic nature of wolf interactions and the importance of considering personality in understanding wolves and advancing wildlife conservation.From wolves to multilateral negotiations, Susan shares how her desire to protect wildlife and biological diversity led her to recognize the importance of agricultural diversity for food and nutrition security. Driven by a passion for both science and advocacy, she discusses her career as an international lawyer working with the United Nations and the founding of Seeds for All — a non-profit dedicated to supporting and expanding agroecology by amplifying the voices and participation of small-scale farmers and promoting inclusive, democratic governance.Susan H. Bragdon is an international lawyer, natural resource ecologist, and U.S. patent agent with more than 25 years of experience working with governments, United Nations agencies and multilateral institutions and donor organizations on policy and science related to sustainable food systems, biological diversity, small-scale farmers, and agroecology. She served as Legal Advisor to the Convention on Biological Diversity and was the first attorney-senior scientist hired within the Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research (CGIAR) at a senior level to develop and implement policy strategy on plant genetic diversity and food security and to leverage its role through critical partnerships. Susan also developed and led the Food and Sustainability Programme at the Quaker United Nations Office in Geneva and was a Policy Advisor for Oxfam Novib’s Sowing Diversity=Harvesting Security Programme. Susan is the Director of Seeds for All, a non-profit organization with a mission to support and expand agroecology by amplifying the voices and participation of small-scale farmers and building democratic, participatory and inclusive governance at all levels.Additional resources:Seeds for AllSusan H. Bragdon’s early wolf researchScent rubbing in wolves (Canis lupus): the effect of novelty (2011)Mutual Rearing of Simultaneous Litters in Captive Wolves (1982)Books mentioned throughout the episodeThe Wolf: The Ecology and Behavior of an Endangered Species by L. David MechFilms featuring Gudrun PflügerA Woman Among WolvesRunning With WolvesLearn more about our Wolf Conservation ProgramRaincoast Radio is hosted by Chelsea Greer and produced by Sofia Osborne, with additional audio editing by Oumar Salifou. This podcast is a production of Raincoast Conservation Foundation, a team of conservationists and scientists empowered by research to protect the lands, waters and wildlife of coastal British Columbia. Learn more and support our work at raincoast.org.

In this episode, wolf researcher and author of A Woman Among Wolves Dr. Diane Boyd shares captivating stories and insights from her forty year journey through wolf recovery in the western U.S. We discuss her early experiences working with Dr. David Mech in northern Minnesota and the consuming passion that led her to wolves and field biology, ultimately shaping both her career and who she is today. Diving into one of Diane’s favourite topics, we learn about the advantages and disadvantages of reintroduction efforts, drawing on examples from Yellowstone National Park and Colorado, while also shedding light on the often-overlooked story of natural wolf recolonization throughout the Rocky Mountains. Additionally, we explore the social dimensions of wolf-human conflict resolution and the importance of fostering open conversations about wolves and wolf conservation. Dr. Diane Boyd has four decades of applied expertise on behavior, conservation and management of wild wolf populations. She began her career in 1977 with Dr. L. David Mech’s wolf research project in Minnesota. She moved to Montana in 1979 to study gray wolf recovery in the Rocky Mountains, from the first natural colonizer to approximately 3,000 wolves today in the western U.S. Her work has focused on wolf ecology, dispersal, habitat use, prey selection, behavior, morphology, genetic relationships, and the social dimensions of wolf-human conflict resolution. She has collaborated on research in the Rocky Mountains of the U.S., British Columbia, Alberta, the Mexican Wolf Recovery Program, and wolf research projects in Italy and Romania. She has published more than fifty articles in scientific journals, invited book chapters, and articles in popular literature. She received her M.S. and Ph.D. from the University of Montana, and is presently an Affiliate Faculty member at the University of Montana. Diane recently retired from Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks as the Region 1 Wolf and Carnivore Specialist, but she is continuing her wolf conservation efforts on a broader scale through teaching and writing. Her debut memoir, A Woman Among Wolves: My Forty Year Journey Through Wolf Recovery, was released September 10, 2024.This series is dedicated to Gudrun Pflüger. As a former professional cross-country skier and elite marathon mountain runner, Gudrun’s exceptional skills made her uniquely suited to track the elusive coastal wolves of British Columbia, Canada. As a field biologist, she was pivotal in helping both scientists and local communities collect vital data, shedding light on the ecology and genetics of wolves on BC’s central coast, and later, in the Rocky Mountains of Alberta. Beyond her contributions to wolf conservation, Gudrun was a mother, friend, and source of inspiration to many within Raincoast and beyond. Documented in films, such as A Woman Among Wolves and Running With Wolves, Gudrun’s journey was one of passion, determination, and resilience, revealing the true healing power of nature.Additional resources:A Woman Among Wolves: My Forty Year Journey Through Wolf RecoveryChapter 32: North American WolvesFilms featuring Gudrun Pflüger: A Woman Among WolvesRunning With WolvesLearn more about our Wolf Conservation ProgramRaincoast Radio is hosted by Chelsea Greer and produced by Sofia Osborne, with additional audio editing by Oumar Salifou. This podcast is a production of Raincoast Conservation Foundation, a team of conservationists and scientists empowered by research to protect the lands, waters and wildlife of coastal British Columbia. Learn more and support our work at raincoast.org.

From the epic journeys of individual wolves to legendary exploits of pack leaders, the stories of mother wolves have not only captured the hearts and minds of conservationists and wildlife enthusiasts, but also sparked important conversations about coexistence, ecology, and the delicate balance between wilderness and humanity. Equally captivating and impactful are the stories of the women who studied these wolves. In this series, Raincoast's Wolf Conservation Program Director Chelsea Greer will be talking to some amazing female scientists whose dedication and groundbreaking research have not only deepened our understanding of these remarkable creatures, but have also played a pivotal role in raising awareness and inspiring global conversations about the importance of wolves and wolf conservation. A big thank you to all our Raincoast supporters — your generosity makes content like this possible. Your donations also support our scientific research and help protect the lands, waters and wildlife of coastal British Columbia. Learn more and donate at raincoast.org.Raincoast Radio is created by Raincoast Conservation Foundation. It is produced by Sofia Osborne with additional audio editing by Oumar Salifou. Fact checking by the Raincoast team. The wolf photo in the podcast art is by Mark Williams. Music by Crypt-of-Insomnia and Luca Francini.