
Episode 7 | Maryland Man and Law Firms
From rationally BASED by Center of the American Experiment
March 12, 2026 · 1h 5m
About this episode
The episode explores the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case as a lens to understand immigration law and its implications.
Our hosts, law professor Ilan Wurman and Kathryn Johnson, are joined by special guest host Will Chamberlain. They take a deep dive into the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case and study it as a microcosm of immigration law and the immigration bar. What is the difference between asylum and withholding of removal? Can Kilmar be deported to a third country? Why can't the government detain him? Are district judges playing interference and engaging in lawfare against the Trump Administration? Do immigration...
People in this episode
Hosts: Ilan Wurman, Kathryn Johnson
Guest: Will Chamberlain
Topics covered
- immigration law
- asylum
- deportation
- lawfare
- judicial interference
Keywords
- immigration
- asylum
- withholding of removal
- deportation
- lawfare
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Trump Administration
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