It's just indifference... Part 2, with Cody Beck

About this episode

Samantha LaBat and Cody Beck discuss the concept of indifference and its implications in relationships and communication.

It’s been brought to my attention that when I say “I hate small talk, I want to be deep,” some people have interpreted that as “I want to be dark and sad all the time,” which is not at all the case. So I brought on Cody Beck, one of my best friends, to demonstrate what I find to be a deep and interesting discussion. We revisit last week’s topic, indifference, along with the first chapter of How to Know a Person by David Brooks, which also explores this topic. The goal of this conversation is to figure out how we feel about indifference - what does it mean? Is it good? Is it bad? Etc. The point is not for us to arrive at the same conclusion or to agree with each other, but to help each other arrive at a conclusion and understand how we each got to where we land. 00:00 Intro 05:10 Recapping last week’s topic of indifference 11:28 Emotional data points and being known 17:46 Communication and therapy 18:49 Is indifference inherently bad? 23:18 What does indifference actually mean? 29:50 How to Know a Person by David Brooks 42:56 When someone assigns a personality trait you disagree with 57:29 Feeling seen 01:10:31 How new information changes an opinion Cody Beck is the creator and…

People in this episode

Host: Samantha LaBat

Guest: Cody Beck

Topics covered

• indifference
• communication
• emotional data
• self-awareness
• relationships

Keywords

• indifference
• communication
• emotional data
• self-awareness
• David Brooks

Mentioned in this episode

Books & works: How to Know a Person

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