Interview with an Afrikaner Refugee ft. Jason Bartlett
From Restoring Order by with Patrick Casey
May 1, 2026 · 42 min
About this episode
Jason Bartlett shares his experiences as a white South African refugee discussing the transition from apartheid to current issues in South Africa and immigration to America.
Note: Jason was kind enough to take some time out of his workday to do this interview. But given that it was not as long as the average Restoring Order episode, I have opted not to paywall it. If you’re here for the first time, though, be sure to subscribe to keep up with and support my work. Thank you! Jason Bartlett is a white South African in Alabama. He joins me to discuss his journey. Restoring Order is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. To begin, Jason recounts his upbringing in South Africa. He provides a firsthand account of the transition from apartheid to race communism. Believe it or not, South Africa is not better off today. This leads to a discussion of accelerationism. I ask Jason whether right-wingers in America who think things need to get worse before they get better are delusional. You’ll never guess his response. Later, I ask Jason what the solution to South Africa’s problem is – assuming there is one. We talk about the high level of corruption in third-world countries and why Western liberals take so much for granted. Jason and I discuss mass immigration to America. Does he…
People in this episode
Host: Patrick Casey
Guest: Jason Bartlett
Topics covered
- Afrikaner experience
- South Africa
- immigration
- political transition
- corruption
- accelerationism
Keywords
- Afrikaner
- refugee
- South Africa
- apartheid
- race communism
- accelerationism
- immigration
- corruption
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Restoring Order, Twitter
Places: South Africa, Alabama, America
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