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Is the Saudification of America Underway?
Jun 25, 2026
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Vine Was Chaos. That’s Why It Worked.
Jun 11, 2026
1h 03m 18s
OG Viner on How the Creator Economy is Broken
May 28, 2026
50m 14s
How Social Media Platforms Use Regulation To Stifle Competition
May 14, 2026
1h 15m 27s
Can We Bring Vine Back From the Dead?
Apr 30, 2026
57m 24s
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| 6/25/26 | ![]() Is the Saudification of America Underway? | From sitting next to Bezos to fighting from outside The Washington Post, Karen Attiah refuses to give up.Karen Attiah went from a grad student cheering on the Arab Spring to The Washington Post’s Global Opinions editor who hired Jamal Khashoggi. When she was fired over benign comments about Charlie Kirk she took to the internet and continued to use her knowledge of technology to speak truth to power. In this episode, she chats with Rabble about how social media brought her to journalism, institutional power, the rise of authoritarianism, and how we could all use a little more fun in our lives. Now teaching, writing, and tweeting on multiple social media platforms of her own, Karen explains why it’s important to keep fighting.Show notes:Karen’s Twitter: @KarenAttiahResistance Summer School: https://www.resistancestudiesseries.com/The Golden Hour Substack: https://karenattiah.substack.com/Follow Rabble on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/rabble.nzFollow the podcast: https://episodes.fm/1824528874This episode was executive produced by Alice Chan from Flock Marketing.To learn more about Rabble’s social media bill of rights, and sign up for our newsletter, visit https://revolution.social/ | — | ||||||
| 6/11/26 | ![]() Vine Was Chaos. That’s Why It Worked.✨ | Vinecreator culture+5 | Eric Artell | Behind The VineBehind Divine | — | Vinecreator culture+5 | — | 1h 03m 18s | |
| 5/28/26 | ![]() OG Viner on How the Creator Economy is Broken✨ | creator economydecentralization+4 | Reggie Couz | Hollywood actors’ unionVine+3 | — | creator economyVine+6 | — | 50m 14s | |
| 5/14/26 | ![]() How Social Media Platforms Use Regulation To Stifle Competition✨ | social media regulationcompetition+5 | Mike McCueMike Masnick | MetaYouTube+4 | — | social mediaregulation+7 | — | 1h 15m 27s | |
| 4/30/26 | ![]() Can We Bring Vine Back From the Dead?✨ | Vinesocial media+5 | Taylor LorenzBridget Todd | VineTwitter+3 | — | VineDivine+8 | — | 57m 24s | |
| 4/16/26 | ![]() Why the Algorithm Loves a Villain, And How to Beat It✨ | misinformationjournalism+4 | Sophia Smith Galer | BBCVice+2 | — | algorithmfake news+5 | — | 46m 54s | |
| 4/2/26 | ![]() Why does the internet feel worse than it used to?✨ | internet issuescrypto scams+4 | Molly White | WikipediaWeb3 is Going Just Great+2 | — | internetscams+6 | — | 1h 07m 45s | |
| 3/26/26 | ![]() Ethical Venture Capital: Why Social Media Needs a Conscience (with Brad Burnham & Zoe Weinberg)✨ | venture capitalsocial media+5 | Brad BurnhamZoe Weinberg | Union Square Venturesex/ante+4 | — | venture capitalsocial media ethics+5 | — | 1h 01m 22s | |
| 3/19/26 | ![]() Escaping Algorithmic Binds: Creators vs. Corporate Platforms (w/ Bridget Todd & Rudy Fraser at SXSW)✨ | decentralized social appscreator economy+4 | Bridget ToddRudy Fraser | Harvard University's Berkman Klein Center for Internet and SocietyBlacksky Algorithms+1 | Austin, Texas | algorithmic bindsdecentralization+5 | — | 56m 33s | |
| 3/12/26 | ![]() What Creators Can Do & AI Can’t (with Jim Louderback)✨ | creator economyAI and humanity+4 | Jim Louderback | Revision3VidCon+1 | Gen Z | creatorsAI+7 | — | 1h 08m 25s | |
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| 3/5/26 | ![]() An Alternate History of Social Media (with Ben Werdmuller)✨ | social mediatechnology ethics+4 | Ben Werdmuller | ProPublicaElgg | — | social mediaElgg+5 | — | 1h 00m 21s | |
| 2/26/26 | ![]() Ethics Have Become Optional in Big Tech. We Can Do Better. (with Alex Komoroske)✨ | ethics in technologyinteroperability+4 | Alex Komoroske | GoogleStripe+2 | — | Big Techethics+7 | — | 1h 26m 15s | |
| 2/19/26 | ![]() Silicon Valley Has Lost Its Moral Compass (with Anil Dash)✨ | ethical technologySilicon Valley+4 | Anil Dash | GlitchElectronic Frontier Foundation+2 | — | Silicon Valleymoral compass+6 | — | 1h 13m 05s | |
| 2/12/26 | ![]() “I've Never Been More Optimistic” (Flipboard’s Mike McCue On the Open Social Web)✨ | open websocial media+4 | Mike McCue | NetscapeTwitter+5 | — | open social webTwitter API+5 | — | 1h 08m 22s | |
| 2/5/26 | ![]() Building Community vs. Building an Audience (with VidCon’s Jacques Keyser)✨ | social mediacreator economy+4 | Jacques Keyser | VidConYouTube+4 | Dubai | social mediaaudience ownership+6 | — | 32m 01s | |
| 1/29/26 | ![]() The Battle for Digital Freedom and Why KOSA Ain’t It (with Evan Greer) | Evan Greer is a director at Fight for the Future, the digital rights organization that helped organize the SOPA blackout and continues to fight for an internet where ordinary people have a voice. As a parent, a trans activist, and someone who's spent over a decade in the trenches of internet policy, she brings a unique perspective to the debate over how we protect kids online. “So many of these folks that say they want to protect kids are just not actually interested in listening to kids,” Evan says. “And it's really hard to protect kids when you don't listen to them… The amount of videos about Minecraft that I have subjected myself to just so that my kid doesn't feel ashamed coming and talking to me about what kind of content she's consuming has rotted my brain. But what it actually has led to is we do have a trusting relationship.” Today on Revolution.Social, Evan and Rabble talk about how well-intentioned legislation such as KOSA, the Kids Online Safety Act, could become a powerful tool for censorship; why age verification requirements would make digital surveillance even worse; and why our ability to choose the apps we can install on our phones is set to become a “foundational human rights issue.” They also talk about the monopoly power of app stores, the hidden world of data brokers, and why the same politicians who claim to be tough on Big Tech refuse to pass basic privacy legislation. Follow Rabble on Bluesky Follow the podcast This episode was produced and edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod, and executive produced by Alice Chan from Flock Marketing. To learn more about Rabble’s social media bill of rights, and sign up for our newsletter, visit https://revolution.social/ | — | ||||||
| 1/24/26 | ![]() An Update on diVine: Joyscrolling, AI Filtering, and Trust & Safety | Rabble and Alice Chan, Revolution.Social's host and executive producer, share an update on diVine, the new social video app that's bringing back the spirit of Vine and real human creativity (no AI content allowed!). "We're not anti-AI," Alice says. "We just believe that there is great power in human creativity and that humans have kind of had that power taken away from them involuntarily." Recording at the 1 Billion Followers Summit in Dubai, Rabble and Alice talk about how the diVine team is preparing to handle potentially millions of users, and how it’s partnering with trust and safety experts like Yoel Roth, and the team at Bluesky. They also discuss AI content detection, the forthcoming Android beta, and why we need to replace doomscrolling with “joyscrolling.” Follow Rabble on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/rabble.nz Follow the podcast: https://episodes.fm/1824528874 This episode was produced and edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod.fm, and executive produced by Alice Chan from Flock Marketing. To learn more about Rabble’s social media bill of rights, and sign up for our newsletter, visit https://revolution.social/ | — | ||||||
| 1/22/26 | ![]() Open Source Safety Tools for Everyone (with Camille François) | Camille François, assistant professor at Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs, has spent her career at the frontlines of trust and safety, including as a principal researcher at Google and the Senior Director of Trust & Safety at Niantic; now the founding president of ROOST (Robust Open Online Safety Tools), she's working to make the safety tools used by big tech companies accessible to everyone. “What children face online right now, the state of the threat is so far ahead from the current state of the defenses,” Camille says. “We know the defenses are brittle. We know the defenses are hypercentralized. We know the defenses are not accessible to the people who want them. And open source is also a hack to build faster together.” Today on Revolution.Social, Camille and Rabble talk about how open source safety tools can strengthen our digital spaces, the impact of the AI moment, and why safety will look different across different platforms … and why that's desirable. Plus: Why “nudifying” apps, similar to the controversial Grok features that unleashed global outrage, have been able to proliferate on social media and app stores. Follow Rabble on Bluesky Follow the podcast This episode was produced and edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod, and executive produced by Alice Chan from Flock Marketing. To learn more about Rabble’s social media bill of rights, and sign up for our newsletter, visit https://revolution.social/ | — | ||||||
| 1/15/26 | ![]() Social Media Should Be Public Infrastructure (with Ben Cerveny) | "My thesis is that humans invent things all the time, and for the first 30 years, we call them technology," says Ben “Neb” Cerveny, president of the Foundation for Public Code. "And then if they work, we call them infrastructure." Ben was part of the original team that built one of the defining Web 2.0 platforms, Flickr, and he even gave Flickr its name. Currently, he is applying what he learned from building digital communities to the next wave of software, web services, and urban planning; Foundation for Public Code, he says, has helped convince most of Europe’s governments that tech solutions don’t need to be privately owned and controlled. Today on Revolution.Social, Ben and Rabble discuss the loss of human curation, which made early social media special; why software has just as much “terroir” as film or food; and how we might govern digital spaces by consensus. They also talk about the origins of Flickr, why Facebook is the fast food of social media, and how to build social platforms with civic intentionality. Follow Rabble on Bluesky Follow the podcast This episode was produced and edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod, and executive produced by Alice Chan from Flock Marketing. To learn more about Rabble’s social media bill of rights, and sign up for our newsletter, visit https://revolution.social/ | — | ||||||
| 1/8/26 | ![]() AI Slop Is Killing the Joy of the Internet (with Bridget Todd) | Bridget Todd is the host of the podcast There Are No Girls on the Internet, a fellow at Harvard's Berkman Klein Center, and a longtime commentator on how platforms shape culture. And she says the rise of AI-generated videos has turned her — an OG superfan of Vine — against short-form video altogether. "I can't trust that any of these are real cats doing cute things," Bridget says. "It's completely turned me off of a kind of content that I've been enjoying for decades." Today on Revolution.Social, Bridget and Rabble discuss what diVine needs to do to bring back the joy of Vine; how AI slop triggers real physiological responses, even when we know it's fake; the disconnect between Silicon Valley's AI enthusiasm and everyone else's horror; and why movements like #MeToo and Black Lives Matter might not be possible in today's algorithmic landscape. They also explore the moral panic around kids online, why legislation aimed at "protecting children" often harms them most, and what it would take to build an internet rooted in love and joy instead of extraction. Follow Rabble on Bluesky Follow the podcast This episode was produced and edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod, and executive produced by Alice Chan from Flock Marketing. To learn more about Rabble’s social media bill of rights, and sign up for our newsletter, visit https://revolution.social/ | — | ||||||
| 1/1/26 | ![]() [Re-Air] What's Next for Jack Dorsey After Twitter and Bluesky | Happy new year to all! Today, we're re-airing the first episode of Revolution.Social, an interview with Jack Dorsey. We'll be back next week with a new interview about the future of social media. Twitter never should have been a traditional tech company, says Twitter co-founder and former CEO Jack Dorsey. Instead, it should have been designed as a protocol — like email, or podcasting. “That was the pure expression of it from day one,” Dorsey says. “And it was never really allowed to be that because it was on this fast track to becoming a public company.” Today on Revolution.Social, Dorsey explains why it’s still possible to build a successful business on top of open protocols and decentralized social platforms like Nostr. He and Rabble also discuss why Jack doesn’t regret encouraging Elon Musk to buy Twitter; why he left Bluesky; the problem with centralized AI firms; and the evolution of cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin. Follow Rabble on Bluesky Follow the podcast This episode was produced and edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod, and executive produced by Alice Chan from Flock Marketing. To learn more about Rabble’s social media bill of rights, and sign up for our newsletter, visit https://revolution.social/ | — | ||||||
| 12/18/25 | ![]() Decentralized Social Media for 40 Million+ Users (with Bluesky’s Jay Graber) | When Bluesky hit its millionth user, it had fewer than 10 employees; today, it has more than 40 million users, but only 30 workers; that means that “everyone on the team wears a lot of hats,” says Bluesky CEO Jay Graber. It also makes it much harder to comply with regulations like the new wave of age verification laws, which have been designed for Meta-sized social media companies. “There's a whole patchwork of legislation [in different jurisdictions] … these massive nation state-sized corporations are just going to throw 10,000 people at it and comply,” Jay says. “And we have a tiny team of five product devs trying to comply, and that means in some cases we just can't.” Today on Revolution.Social, she and Rabble talk about the unique benefits of the AT Protocol, which powers Bluesky; permissionless social media and the right to exit; vibe coding social apps in a day; and why pluralistic democracy requires pluralistic communication systems. Follow Rabble on Bluesky Follow the podcast This episode was produced and edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod, and executive produced by Alice Chan from Flock Marketing. To learn more about Rabble’s social media bill of rights, and sign up for our newsletter, visit https://revolution.social/ | — | ||||||
| 12/11/25 | ![]() Team Human vs. Tech Monopolies (with Douglas Rushkoff) | Douglas Rushkoff is a media theorist, author, and host of the Team Human podcast, who has been advocating for human-centered technology since the early '90s. He believes venture capital turned social media into a strip mall, but that its fundamental values can be reclaimed and re-invented. “It was a wonderful chaotic thing,” Douglas says about Twitter. “It was not a mean, treacherous, troll-baiting, horrible thing … the bias was towards collaboration, cooperation, and certain social norms that emerged naturally. It didn't turn fucked-up and evil until the platform became about monetizing things." Today on Revolution.Social, Doug and Rabble discuss how the internet became an advertising-driven hellscape; what platform cooperatives could look like if workers owned the means of digital production; and why Mastodon failed where it should have succeeded. They also discuss te reo Maori Twitter, diVine’s anti-AI slop stance, AGI mythology, Peter Thiel’s craziest ideas, and why professional journalists are losing to professional liars. 00:00:00 Introduction 00:04:44 Renaissance vs. Simulation 00:08:29 Throwing Rocks at the Google Bus 00:12:29 Ev Williams' $4.3 Billion Problem 00:16:05 Jack Dorsey's Original Sin 00:19:43 Platform Co-ops 00:24:09 Interest-Bearing Currency and AGI 00:26:22 Peter Thiel's AI Monarchy 00:33:32 Do People Want Social Media to Be Social? 00:38:06 Te Reo Maori Twitter 00:40:40 diVine and Medium Follow Rabble on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/rabble.nz Follow the podcast: https://episodes.fm/1824528874 This episode was produced and edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod.fm, and executive produced by Alice Chan from Flock Marketing. To learn more about Rabble’s social media bill of rights, and sign up for our newsletter, visit https://revolution.social/ | — | ||||||
| 12/4/25 | ![]() Defending Digital Rights in the Surveillance Era (with Jillian York) | We need a more diverse approach to internet governance, says Jillian York, the director of International Freedom of Expression at the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF). At the EFF, Jillian has studied the global impact of social media policies and advocated on behalf of global activists and others whose voices are often suppressed. Today on Revolution.Social, she and Rabble talk about the challenges of content moderation, the importance of end-to-end encryption, and the unintended consequences of age-verification legislation aimed at protecting minors on the internet. They also discuss the theft of copyrighted works that helped train AI large language models, and the necessity of grassroots activism to preserve digital freedoms. Follow Rabble on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/rabble.nz Follow the podcast: https://episodes.fm/1824528874 This episode was produced and edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod.fm, and executive produced by Alice Chan from Flock Marketing. To learn more about Rabble’s social media bill of rights, and sign up for our newsletter, visit https://revolution.social/ | — | ||||||
| 11/26/25 | ![]() Enshittification and “Breaking Kings” (with Cory Doctorow at Web Summit) | In this live interview recorded in November at Web Summit 2025 in Lisbon, Cory Doctorow returns to Revolution.Social to talk about building alternatives to “enshittified” digital platforms. "Apps are websites that are illegal to protect your privacy while you use them," Cory explains. "The reason companies are so horny to get you to use their apps is because they can't be modified in that way. No one's ever installed an ad blocker for an app." Cory and Rabble also discuss how Europe could export jailbreaking tools as industrial policy, why other countries should respond to American tariffs with a targeted strike against the tech industry, and why tech workers should have unionized when they had leverage. Chapters: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:03:06 Anticircumvention Laws & GDPR 00:06:54 Apple and Google's DRM Controls 00:09:14 Chokepoint Capitalism and the EuroStack 00:11:10 Adversarial Interoperability 00:14:09 Printer Ink vs. Stallion Semen 00:15:38 The AI Bubble Will Pop 00:18:48 Tech Bosses Aren't Afraid of Their Workers Read Cory’s new book, Enshittification: Why Everything Suddenly Got Worse and What to Do About It https://bookshop.org/p/books/enshittification-why-everything-suddenly-got-worse-and-what-to-do-about-it-cory-doctorow/d3f8483b158906ce Follow Rabble on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/rabble.nz Follow the podcast: https://episodes.fm/1824528874 This episode was produced and edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod.fm, and executive produced by Alice Chan from Flock Marketing. To learn more about Rabble’s social media bill of rights, and sign up for our newsletter, visit https://revolution.social/ | — | ||||||
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