Getting From Here To There

Getting From Here To There

From Rights & Wrongs by Human Rights Watch

March 30, 2026 · 23 min

About this episode

The episode explores the challenges faced by migrants, particularly focusing on the story of Maung Sawyeddollah and his family's journey from Myanmar.

When anti-Rohingya sentiment turned into gunshots in Myanmar in 2017, 16-year-old Maung Sawyeddollah was forced to flee. But what do you do when you’re forced to leave your home? Where do you go? This week on The Great Unrooting, host Ngofeen Mputubwele asks how migrants get from here to there. What happens if you need medicine while you’re traveling or are living with disabilities that make traveling difficult? What challenges do migrants face as they make these strenuous journeys? This week, we hear from people around the world who have faced these questions. We hear about Maung’s mom, who fled while pregnant. Her story, alongside accounts from HRW researchers, paints a picture of resilience and bravery of the migrants who risk everything in pursuit of safety. Maung Sawyeddollah: Agent of Change, Rohingya Muslim Nadia Hardman: Researcher, Refugee and Migrant Rights Division at Human Rights Watch Emina Ćerimović: Associate Director, Disability Rights Division at Human Rights Watch Lindsay Mputubwele: Doula and child-birth educator Chinda Precious: Nigerian refugee Hanaa Rahimi: Former Afghan policewoman sharing her story under alias

People in this episode

Host: Ngofeen Mputubwele

Guest: Maung Sawyeddollah

Topics covered

  • migration
  • Rohingya
  • disability rights
  • refugees
  • resilience
  • human rights

Keywords

  • migration
  • Rohingya
  • disability
  • refugees
  • human rights
  • resilience
  • travel challenges

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Human Rights Watch

Places: Myanmar, Nigeria, Afghanistan

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