
Dharmesh Shah on AEO, AI Agents, and the ‘AI App Store’
From Rowan's Notes by The Rundown AI
December 16, 2025 · 57 min
About this episode
Dharmesh Shah discusses the evolution of SEO to AEO and the implications for AI content.
Being early to SEO helped Dharmesh Shah build HubSpot into a $30B company. Now he's obsessed with something new: AI ranking. It's how to show up when people ask ChatGPT for recommendations instead of Googling. In this conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with HubSpot Founder & CTO Dharmesh Shah (@dharmesh) to unpack: AEO (Answer Engine Optimization): SEO for the AI eraHow to structure content to get cited in AI answersThe hidden risk of low-quality AI contentEffectively us...
People in this episode
Host: Rowan Cheung
Guest: Dharmesh Shah
Topics covered
- AEO
- AI Agents
- AI App Store
- SEO
- content structure
- AI content quality
Keywords
- AEO
- AI ranking
- SEO
- ChatGPT
- content optimization
- AI recommendations
- HubSpot
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: HubSpot
Products: ChatGPT
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