Chartjuice revival?!
From Small Efforts - with Sean Sun and Andrew Askins by Sean Sun and Andrew Askins
October 10, 2025 · 55 min · Episode 66
About this episode
The hosts discuss the challenges of user engagement with MetaMonster's new UI and the potential revival of Chart Juice as a ChatGPT app.
Andrew saw Saturn through a telescope and launched MetaMonster's new UI, but users won't activate! 🔭 Getting 1-2 daily signups with zero engagement while testing Phantom Buster for LinkedIn scraping. Sean presents his Michelin star agency framework and they debate reviving Chart Juice as a ChatGPT app. Plus: why web design agencies might be better customers than SEO agencies. Links: Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskins Andrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/ MetaMonster: https://metamonster.ai/ Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsun Miscreants: http://miscreants.com/ Margins: http://margins.so/ Sean's website: https://seanqsun.com/ For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/ . Transcript: 00:01.07 Sean Howdy. 00:02.27 Andrew Hi, hi, hi. 00:03.52 Sean and We've had so many false starts of season four, think. 00:08.60 Andrew Yeah, is this not season eight? I thought we were on season eight now. 00:11.73 Sean You're right, you're right, you're right. It was a limited series for the first but past four seasons. 00:16.07 Andrew One, two episodes. 00:17.93 Sean Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like those those like which TV shows did in the middle of COVID, and you…
People in this episode
Hosts: Sean Sun, Andrew Askins
Topics covered
- UI design
- user engagement
- LinkedIn scraping
- business strategy
- web design agencies
- ChatGPT
Keywords
- MetaMonster
- Chart Juice
- UI design
- user engagement
- LinkedIn scraping
- web design agencies
- ChatGPT
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Organizations: MetaMonster, Phantom Buster, Chart Juice, Twitter, Miscreants, Margins, Small Efforts
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