Magic addiction and slabbing a kid
From Small Efforts - with Sean Sun and Andrew Askins by Sean Sun and Andrew Askins
October 16, 2025 · 1h 4m · Episode 67
About this episode
The episode discusses Magic addiction, product ideas for MetaMonster, and a surprise productized service deal.
From Magic addiction to Margins updates - Sean finally talked to a customer! Andrew tried Claude Code and wasn't impressed, then gets into product ideas around workflows and flexible tables for MetaMonster. Surprise twist: the guys accidentally design a $699 productized service for MetaMonster and close the deal live on the call. Also: type 2 fun, hiking debates, and why slabbing a kid isn't what it sounds like. Links: Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskins Andrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/ MetaMonster: https://metamonster.ai/ Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsun Miscreants: http://miscreants.com/ Margins: http://margins.so/ Sean's website: https://seanqsun.com/ For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/ . Transcript: 00:00:00.82 Sean What's up? 00:00:02.45 Andrew Not much. Just hanging out. What's up with you? 00:00:05.69 Sean Cool. I have blown so much money this week. and Last week. 00:00:12.87 Andrew Oh yeah? 00:00:13.75 Sean Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:00:15.24 Andrew On something fun, I hope? 00:00:16.73 Sean actually Magic the Gathering. Magic the Gathering. 00:00:22.28 Andrew is Are you like building a deck to play? Is this investing? Are you…
People in this episode
Hosts: Sean Sun, Andrew Askins
Topics covered
- Magic the Gathering
- product design
- customer interaction
- workflows
- flexible tables
- hiking debates
- type 2 fun
Keywords
- Magic the Gathering
- MetaMonster
- product design
- workflows
- type 2 fun
- hiking debates
- customer interaction
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: MetaMonster, Margins, Miscreants
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