
Proto-Epics with Jocko Selberg
From Software Delivery in Small Batches by Adam Hawkins
January 5, 2026 · 12 min · Episode 124
About this episode
Adam Hawkins and Jocko Selberg discuss Proto-Epics as a key artifact in the software delivery flow.
This is the first in a series of episodes on software delivery flow. This is a remix on the typical episode format. It features a snippet from my ongoing conversations with my friend Jocko Selberg. Jocko and I discuss the idea of "Proto-Epics" as the artifact that joins the discovery and delivery process. Find Jocko on LinkedIn and check-out his own show the Complexity Lounge on YouTube . (00:00) - Proto-Epics (00:21) - Intro (01:17) - Background (03:37) - Adam & Jocko on Proto-Epics (11:10) - Outro ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
People in this episode
Host: Adam Hawkins
Guest: Jocko Selberg
Topics covered
- software delivery
- Proto-Epics
- discovery process
- delivery process
- technology
- business
Keywords
- Proto-Epics
- software delivery
- discovery
- delivery
- technology
- business
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Complexity Lounge
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