
South Bend's Own Words
by IU South Bend Civil Rights Heritage Center
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DeAnn Gatto on winning the Mr. South Bend male impersonator competition
Jun 3, 2026
14m 36s
Dorothy Smith on the price of being the first
Apr 8, 2026
19m 33s
Doris Grady Howell shares her days of glory in an all-African American girls softball league
Feb 4, 2026
19m 37s
Tom Singer, lawyer and ally, on discrimination in South Bend
Dec 17, 2025
17m 10s
Father John Phalen on the founding of La Casa de Amistad
Sep 10, 2025
21m 56s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 6/3/26 | ![]() DeAnn Gatto on winning the Mr. South Bend male impersonator competition✨ | male impersonationLGBTQ+ history+3 | DeAnn Gatto | IU South Bend Civil Rights Heritage Center | South BendSeahorse | male impersonationLGBTQ++3 | — | 14m 36s | |
| 4/8/26 | ![]() Dorothy Smith on the price of being the first✨ | racial violenceAfrican American history+4 | Dorothy Smith | Wells ElectronicsPhyllis Wheatley Girl Reserves+6 | South BendArkansas | Dorothy SmithWells Electronics+7 | — | 19m 33s | |
| 2/4/26 | ![]() Doris Grady Howell shares her days of glory in an all-African American girls softball league✨ | African American historysoftball+3 | Doris Grady Howell | University of Notre DameUncle Bill's All Girls Softball league+2 | South Bend, Indiana | Doris Grady Howellsoftball league+3 | — | 19m 37s | |
| 12/17/25 | ![]() Tom Singer, lawyer and ally, on discrimination in South Bend✨ | civil rightsdiscrimination+3 | Tom Singer | Central High SchoolUniversity of Notre Dame+2 | — | Tom Singercivil rights movement+5 | — | 17m 10s | |
| 9/10/25 | ![]() Father John Phalen on the founding of La Casa de Amistad✨ | community serviceLatinx immigrant community+3 | Father John Phalen | La Casa de AmistadUniversity of Notre Dame+2 | South BendMichiana | Father John PhalenLa Casa de Amistad+3 | — | 21m 56s | |
| 6/2/25 | ![]() The LGBTQ Center's 20th Anniversary✨ | LGBTQ historycommunity spaces+3 | Phoenix McClellan | Saint Mary’s CollegeErnestine M. Raclin School of the Arts at IU South Bend+1 | South Bend, Indiana | LGBTQ CenterSouth Bend+5 | — | 22m 35s | |
| 2/3/25 | ![]() Ms. Adeline Wigfall-Jones, legendary west-side barber and community builder✨ | community buildingbarbering+3 | Ms. Adeline Wigfall-Jones | IU South Bend Civil Rights Heritage CenterErnestine M. Raclin School of the Arts | South Bend, IndianaGeorgia | Adeline Wigfall-Jonesbarber shop+5 | — | 17m 41s | |
| 1/2/25 | ![]() John Charles Bryant: African American life and legacy✨ | African American historyoral history+4 | John Charles Bryant | Olivet A.M.E. ChurchUniversity of Notre Dame | South BendNorth Carolina | John Charles BryantAfrican American community+5 | — | 36m 06s | |
| 10/9/24 | ![]() Tom Beatty on local LGBTQ+ spaces like the Seahorse✨ | LGBTQ+ historylocal community spaces+3 | Tom Beatty | IU South Bend Civil Rights Heritage CenterErnestine M. Raclin School of the Arts+2 | — | LGBTQ+Seahorse+5 | — | 13m 50s | |
| 8/14/24 | ![]() Joaquin Robles on four decades in the Latine community in South Bend✨ | Latine communitydiscrimination+3 | Joaquin Robles | IU South Bend Civil Rights Heritage CenterErnestine M. Raclin School of the Arts | South BendPuerto Rico | Latine communitySouth Bend+4 | — | 16m 01s | |
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| 7/23/20 | ![]() Representative John Lewis at IU South Bend | The late Rep. John Lewis speaks at Indiana University South Bend in 2001. In 2001, Charlotte Pfeifer was Director of Indiana University South Bend’s Office of Campus Diversity as well as a South Bend Common Council representative. That year she led the fifth in a series of events called “Conversations On Race.” The keynote speaker was Representative John Lewis. John Lewis passed away last Friday after a lifetime of fighting for justice. To honor his life, we present the speech he delivered here at IU South Bend in 2001. Hope you enjoy. | — | ||||||
| 6/2/20 | ![]() South Bend Uprising | NOTE: Work on this episode of South Bend’s Own Words started before the murders of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and Ahmaud Arbery. With respect to the uprisings in cities across the U.S. right now, we wanted to be sure their names were said. There are far too many other names to share, and our city is not immune to police violence. The murder of Eric Logan last year was only the latest in a long history. The “long, hot summer of 1967” described the many uprisings in cities across the U.S. Real hurt felt by real people was large ignored by white people in positions of power. Decades of racial redlining, job discrimination, and both micro-and macro-aggressions fueled an idea that violent expression was the only recourse. In 159 cities across the U.S., a spark turned decades of oppression into violent outburst. In South Bend, Indiana, in July, 1967, a white police officer shot an unarmed African American man in the leg. His name was Melvin Phillips. That bullet sparked South Bend to join 158 other cities. Days of violent eruption followed. Today, we hear from three people who lived through, or participated in, the South Bend uprising. This episode was produced by Seth Umbaugh and George Garner. Want to learn more about South Bend’s history? View the photographs and documents that helped create it. Visit Michiana Memory at http://michianamemory.sjcpl.org/. Title music, “History Explains Itself,” from Josh Spacek. Visit his page on the Free Music Archive, http://www.freemusicarchive.org/. | — | ||||||
| 4/13/20 | ![]() Jenell Kauffman | Jenell Kauffman learned to embrace dual identities. Born with the name John Danforth, Jenell knew as early as age six that "it would be nice" to be a woman. What Jenell lacked was the language of the transgender experience. As a young person, John knew there were people who were cross-dressers, or drag queens. But the world John lived in was strictly gendered: girls wore girls’ clothes, and boys wore boys’ clothes. But John also knew the feeling of wanting to be something more. Eventually, John learned to incorporate Jenell and present with both identities. In 2015, Jenell sat down with St. Mary’s College professor Dr. Jamie Wagman. They spoke about Jenell’s youth, and how Jenell learned to co-exist as both Jenell and John. This episode was recorded during the COVID-19 pandemic. As we learn how to engage you and continue the work we do, we'd love to hear from you about how we do that. Go to http://crhc.iusb.edu and find our contact information. Call the Center and leave us a voicemail, or email Darryl Heller and George Garner to let us know how you are and what you think we can do during these hard times. This episode was produced by Mark Flora and George Garner. Want to learn more about South Bend’s history? View the photographs and documents that helped create it. Visit Michiana Memory at http://michianamemory.sjcpl.org/. Title music, “History Explains Itself,” from Josh Spacek. Visit his page on the Free Music Archive, http://www.freemusicarchive.org/. | — | ||||||
| 4/1/20 | ![]() Bishop Donald Alford | Bishop Donald L. Alford is a staple along South Bend’s Western Avenue. He’s the founder and pastor of Pentecostal Cathedral Church of God in Christ, and also the founder and owner of Alford’s Mortuary. A lifelong resident of South Bend, Bishop Alford graduated from Washington High School in 1957. In 2007, Bishop Alford sat down with Indiana University South Bend professor Les Lamon, and student Sara Lowe. They talked about Bishop Alford’s life and his work, and the changes he’s seen along Western Avenue over many decades. This episode was in the works right before and released during the 2020 Coronavirus pandemic. We're all staying safe and staying at home, and if you're in a position to do so, we hope you are too. Want to learn more about South Bend’s history? View the photographs and documents that helped create it. Visit Michiana Memory at http://michianamemory.sjcpl.org/. Listen to the full, unedited interview with Bishop Alford at https://archive.org/details/OH-Alford-Donald-2007-12-04 This episode was produced by Mark Flora and George Garner. Title music, “History Explains Itself,” from Josh Spacek. Visit his page on the Free Music Archive, http://www.freemusicarchive.org/. | — | ||||||
| 5/22/17 | ![]() Ruth Tulchinsky | Ruth Tulchinsky was a young Jewish woman living in the shadows of the Holocaust. At the age of 16, fortunately, she and members of her immediate family managed to escape Nazi Germany and arrived in South Bend. Ruth had experienced life in Hitler’s Germany, but did not expect to see elements of it here. Yet, she did. The divisions between white and black were eerily similar to those she saw between Jews and non-Jews back in Germany. In 1944 she met and married South Bend native Maurice Tulchinsky, who also recognized and fought against the racial divisions here. Maury became a white ally in the fight to integrate the Engman Public Natatorium, speaking in front of the South Bend Common Council alongside lawyers J. Chester and Elizabeth Fletcher Allen, Zilford Carter, and Charles Wills. In 2008, Ruth sat down with interviewers from the Indiana University South Bend Civil Rights Heritage Center. Ruth read items from a memory book she created including, what she calls, “The Natatorium Incident.” There’s a link to it in the description of this episode. Here’s Ruth, telling her life story. Created and produced by Kevin Tidmarsh; hosted and co-created by George Garner. Want to learn more about South Bend’s history? View the photographs and documents that helped create it. Visit Michiana Memory at http://michianamemory.sjcpl.org/. Title music, “History Explains Itself,” from Josh Spacek. Visit his page on the Free Music Archive, http://www.freemusicarchive.org/. | — | ||||||
| 4/24/17 | ![]() Jose Arevalo | Jose Arevalo was five when his parents brought him and his nine siblings from Mexico to the United States. They were migrant farm workers, chasing harvesting jobs from Texas through Michigan and Minnesota. He enrolled in school but, without knowing English and without support from his school, he failed the first grade. Luckily, a teacher who spoke both Spanish and English helped him bridge the gap. After high school, Jose continued his formal education, earning a bachelor’s degree and doing work towards a masters degree. Jose became a leader in the Upward Bound program, first at the University of Notre Dame and then Purdue. It let him work directly with first generation college students, helping them afford and acclimate to college life. He then turned his career down a different path, deciding to go into real estate. To Jose, each of these paths was a chance for him to let other migrant families plant roots in a community, and let them grow and develop. In 2009, Indiana University South Bend Professor Dr. Hayley Froysland worked with the Civil Rights Heritage Center to preserve stories from South Bend’s Latinx community. Jose was kind enough to share his. Created and produced by Kevin Tidmarsh; hosted and co-created by George Garner. Want to learn more about South Bend’s history? View the photographs and documents that helped create it. Visit Michiana Memory at http://michianamemory.sjcpl.org/. Title music, “History Explains Itself,” from Josh Spacek. Visit his page on the Free Music Archive, http://www.freemusicarchive.org/. | — | ||||||
| 3/23/17 | ![]() Helen Pope | Helen Pope grew up on the west side of South Bend, Indiana during the 1920s. She watched her city grow and change over the eighty years she lived here. She earned a nursing license from Ivy Tech and a degree in early childhood development from IU South Bend. She worked as a nurse at the old Northern Indiana Children’s hospital, back when they segregated their patients by race. Helen helped end that horrible practice. But when South Bend started losing its factory jobs in the 1960s, African Americans were among the hardest hit. More and more jobs needed college degrees, so without equal access to higher education, lots of positions were out of reach. Helen did what she could to help. She worked with women in need as a YWCA director, and coordinated President Lyndon Johnson's Model Cities program on the West Side. She worked with the school system, with the NAACP, with Hering House, with the Urban League, and so many others. In the 1980s, she became the local coordinator of the History of Black Women in Indiana project. So she didn't just make history in South Bend—she made an effort to share stories from across the state of black women before her who also made history. Helen sat down with the Civil Rights Heritage Center twice in 2001 to talk about the ways she made history. Created and produced by Kevin Tidmarsh; Hosted and co-produced by George Garner Want to learn more about South Bend’s history? View the photographs and documents that helped create it. Visit Michiana Memory at http://michianamemory.sjcpl.org/. Title music, “History Explains Itself,” from Josh Spacek. Visit his page on the Free Music Archive, http://www.freemusicarchive.org/. | — | ||||||
| 2/23/17 | ![]() Dr. Bernard and Audrey Vagner | Episode 1 of "South Bend's Own Words," featuring edited versions of oral histories told to the Indiana University South Bend Civil Rights Heritage Center. Created and produced by Kevin Tidmarsh; hosted and co-produced by George Garner | — | ||||||
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