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Love as the Foundation: Bringing Heartset Education to Classrooms and Leadership, with Stu Semigran
Feb 18, 2026
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Finding Grace in the Ashes: A Coach’s Journey Through Fire and Wisdom, with Stephen McGhee
Jan 27, 2026
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The Spiritual Skills Every Leader Needs: Presence, Purpose, and Compassion, with William Miller
Dec 16, 2025
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The C.L.E.A.R. Path: A Framework for Getting Unstuck in Leadership, with Dacia Moore
Nov 5, 2025
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From Ashram to Boardroom: The Energy of Authentic Leadership, with Anna Pool
Oct 15, 2025
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| 2/18/26 | ![]() Love as the Foundation: Bringing Heartset Education to Classrooms and Leadership, with Stu Semigran | Imagine a young boy with cerebral palsy, limping into summer camp, quietly asking a teenage counselor to teach him how to tie his shoes, not because he couldn’t learn, but because he craved twenty minutes of undivided, caring attention from an adult who truly saw him. That small act of vulnerability sparked a lifelong mission for Stu Semigran, co-founder of the EduCare Foundation, to create spaces where every child, and every person, feels honored, valued, and capable of extraordinary growth.In this episode of Spirituality in Leadership, host Andrew Cohn reconnects with Stu Semigran to explore how love, compassion, and practical “Heartset®” principles can transform education, organizations, and leadership itself. Over 35 years, EduCare has reached hundreds of thousands of students, especially in underserved communities, proving that when cultures of kindness, listening, and forgiveness flourish, both academic results and personal fulfillment thrive.Stu shares his journey from a rebellious young teacher to nonprofit leader, illustrating how seeing the best in others, even when they cannot see it themselves, creates the Pygmalion Effect in real time. The conversation explores the eight Heartset skills: honoring, praising, heart-centered listening, choice, forgiveness, conflict resolution, turning challenges into opportunities, and service, showing how these timeless practices bridge spirituality and high-accountability environments naturally and effectively.This episode offers educators, leaders, and anyone seeking more heart in high-stakes settings both inspiration and actionable wisdom.Key TakeawaysAuthentic care and kindness create environments where learning thrives; people respond deeply when they feel seen and valued.Shift from cognitive growth to a "growth heartset" through eight skills: honoring, praising/encouraging, listening from the heart, power of choice, forgiveness, resolving conflict, using challenges as opportunities, and giving/receiving service.Believing in others’ potential helps them rise, shown by gains in test scores and graduations.Letting go of judgments frees energy for growth; it’s not excusing harm but releasing its lasting poison.Honest feedback, celebrating wins, and building trust turn organizations into learning cultures.Nurturing heart-centered skills helps youth grow into compassionate, courageous leaders, creating lasting hope and impact.In This Episode:[00:00] Introduction[01:36] Meet Stu Semigran, co-founder of the Educare Foundation[03:40] Stu’s story and his connection to spirituality in leadership[05:58] Growth and impact of Educare Foundation[06:31] Philosophy of education: curiosity and individuality[07:37] Serving underserved students and changing perceptions[09:57] Building a culture of caring and kindness in classrooms[12:03] Leadership in education and organizations[13:15] Being vs. doing in leadership[15:18] Stu’s spiritual framework and the principles that inform his work[23:30] The power of vulnerability and asking for help[25:26] Letting go and empowering others[27:19] The intersection of love and accountability in education leadership[29:52] Celebrating success and positive feedback[35:14] Defining forgiveness and letting go of judgments[37:21] Conflict resolution and the four truths[38:08] Service, giving, and the cycle of heart set skills[41:18] Youth leadership and service in action[43:28] Stu’s contact information Resources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spirituality-in-leadership/id1713365406Stu Semigranhttps://www.amazon.com/Heartset-Education-Way-Living-Learning/dp/1735913030www.educarefoundation.comwww.greatergood.berkeley.eduwww.afterschoolalliance.orgAndrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe | — | ||||||
| 1/27/26 | ![]() Finding Grace in the Ashes: A Coach’s Journey Through Fire and Wisdom, with Stephen McGhee | Did you know that being truly present can impact your surroundings as much as an athlete's performance on the field? In this episode of Spirituality in Leadership, Andrew Cohn sits down with longtime friend, colleague, and leadership coach Stephen McGhee for a conversation about presence, wisdom, and leading from the inside out. Rather than offering formulas or techniques, Stephen shares a way of being, one rooted in listening, humility, and what he calls “keeping altitude.”The conversation explores how spirituality shows up in leadership without being imposed through language or labels. Stephen introduces his idea of a “ladder of consciousness,” where service and love sit at the highest rungs, and explains why leaders do more good when they resist inflicting their own beliefs and instead stay curious about how others experience meaning and integrity.A central theme is presence. Stephen reflects on how presence itself “pays,” not as a transaction, but because whatever we carry emotionally and spiritually gets transmitted into rooms, relationships, and decisions. Leaders, he suggests, shape outcomes simply by how present, grounded, and authentic they are.Stephen also shares his personal experience of losing his home in the Pacific Palisades fires. He speaks candidly about grief, rejecting “toxic positivity,” and honoring the importance of process, allowing pain, meaning, and gratitude to unfold in their own time. Through this story, the principles of presence, listening, and acceptance become real and lived.If you've faced unexpected hardship or seek ways to integrate spirituality practically into leadership and life, this episode is a must-listen.Key TakeawaysPresence Pays: Authentic presence transmits energy and value; it's contagious and foundational to effective leadership and relationships.Avoid Inflicting Language: Honor others' spirituality without imposing your own vernacular, keep "altitude" for genuine connection.Listening as Mastery: True listening includes content, context, and inner self-awareness to respond freshly, not reactively.Process Over Bypass: Grieve fully and avoid toxic positivity; proper processing turns pain into learning and strength.Use Everything for Advancement: Cooperate with what is, accept without judgment, and trust that challenges contribute to soul growth.Gratitude in the Present: Life's impermanence awakens deeper appreciation for moments, relationships, and unfolding grace.In This Episode:[00:00] Opening on spiritual guidance and not inflicting language[00:29] The ladder of consciousness and keeping altitude[02:38] How Andrew and Stephen met; shared spiritual community[04:16] Stephen's corporate roots and shift to soul-aligned leadership[07:34] Practical principles for inclusive spiritual conversations[10:34] Presence pays and what that really means[12:27] Authenticity in presence; impact on others[14:18] Getting present before conversations[15:41] The power of deep listening (content, context, inner)[18:18] Avoiding labels and prejudice for better connection[21:41] The Palisades Fire: Evacuation and immediate aftermath[23:56] Toxic positivity vs. healthy processing[26:44] Acceptance, grieving, and timing[28:30] Returning to the site; small victories amid loss[30:38] A profound sunset experience from the ashes[35:38] Where to find Stephen's workResources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spirituality-in-leadership/id1713365406Stephen McGheehttps://www.mcgheeleadership.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephenmcgheeleadership/Andrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe | — | ||||||
| 12/16/25 | ![]() The Spiritual Skills Every Leader Needs: Presence, Purpose, and Compassion, with William Miller | What’s the right way to bring spirituality into workplace conversations when everyone comes from different cultures and comfort levels? Is culture really the problem, or is it more about our ability to adapt and communicate in ways people can genuinely receive? And what about leaders who make tough decisions from a spiritual place, like keeping a 50-year-old who may never find another job while letting go of younger employees who can recover quickly–and even supporting them in finding new roles?In this episode, Andrew Cohn speaks with William Miller, co-founder of Values Centered Innovation and long-time explorer of the intersection between spirituality, creativity, and corporate leadership. Miller traces his journey back to a pivotal moment in the 1980s when mystical literature unexpectedly illuminated his work in innovation. That spark, he explains, revealed spirituality, business, and creativity as “facets of a single jewel,” a realization that has guided his work for four decades. He describes how ancient wisdom traditions, including the Bhagavad Gita, informed research on what energizes innovation, revealing three universal motivators: intention, connection, and action. These insights helped Miller develop practical models, such as his “creative journey” process, that cultivate psychological safety, courage, and authentic human connection within organizations.The conversation also explores cultural nuances in discussing spirituality at work, stories of leaders who ground tough decisions in compassion, and the shift from profit-first business models toward purpose-driven ones. Miller introduces his current project, Reclaiming the Soul of Leadership, a program that helps leaders explore their spiritual foundations, express them through values-based leadership, and foster communities rooted in wisdom and love. Key TakeawaysSpirituality, innovation, and leadership are deeply interconnected.Psychological safety grows when individuals feel seen and valued beyond their roles.Cultural context shapes how spiritual conversations can be introduced.Compassionate leadership fosters trust and can drive organizational transformation.Business is shifting from shareholder value to a broader focus on stakeholder wellbeing.Spiritual leadership comes from responding with calm rather than reacting from fear.True leadership development begins with inner exploration and reconnecting with the soul.In This Episode:[01:26] Introduction to William Miller[03:43] William Miller's journey[04:55] The intersection of spirituality and business[09:03] Implementing spirituality in corporate work[18:56] Cultural perspectives on spiritual conversations[19:07] Spiritual conversations being easier in some cultures compared to others[20:15] Telling the story and the think, act, innovation process[25:27] The control game and spiritual deficits[26:00] The notion of unconditional love in Christian tradition[27:13] Spirituality’s role in leadership behavior[27:48] Research on spirituality among executives[28:30] Case study: Lars Colon's turnaround at Oticon[32:47] Purpose of business: from shareholder wealth to stakeholder wellbeing[35:38] Making a clear distinction between spirituality and religion[38:09] Reclaiming the soul of leadership[43:55] The spiritual path in leadershipResources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spirituality-in-leadership/id1713365406William MillerWebsite: https://consciousleadershipacademy.org/ / https://vci.globalThe Guild website:https://clgleaders.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamcmillervciBook: The Art of Spiritual Leadership in BusinessAndrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe | — | ||||||
| 11/5/25 | ![]() The C.L.E.A.R. Path: A Framework for Getting Unstuck in Leadership, with Dacia Moore | What if the secret to becoming an unstoppable leader in this chaotic and noisy world wasn’t about pushing harder, but about slowing down long enough to hear that still, small voice inside you? In this episode of Spirituality in Leadership, host Andrew Cohn chats with Dacia Moore, a transformational speaker, counselor, and former nonprofit executive director who knows firsthand what it means to lead from a place of faith and renewal.Dacia opens up about her journey from the corporate and education worlds into the mental health space, where she found her true calling to help others move from burnout to breakthrough. She also shares insights from her inspiring book From Stuck to Unstoppable, where she guides readers to overcome fear, rediscover purpose, and build the courage to move forward with faith and clarity.Throughout the conversation, Dacia introduces her C.L.E.A.R. framework: Clarify, Learn, Expose, Align, and Replace. It’s a practical tool that helps leaders reconnect with who they are, silence the noise, and lead with authenticity. She and Andrew also talk about the value of “margin time,” those quiet, intentional pauses that allow us to step back, reflect, and make wiser decisions.This episode is a heartfelt reminder that leadership isn’t just about doing more. It’s about creating space to listen, grow, and let your inner wisdom lead the way.Key TakeawaysSpiritual Awakening Through Adversity: Dacia’s divorce became the catalyst for her spiritual and professional rebirth, inspiring her to help others navigate pain with faith and purpose.Faith as a North Star: Integrity, consistency, and inner guidance, what she calls listening to the Holy Spirit, are the foundation of resilient leadership.Leadership is an Inside Job: Your internal state, managing burnout, self-doubt, and overwhelm, directly impacts your effectiveness and the well-being of your team.Listen to Your Inner Voice: Whether you call it the Holy Spirit, intuition, or a gut feeling, learning to heed that "still, small voice" is a non-negotiable skill for wise decision-making.The CLEAR Framework: Dacia’s CLEAR framework (Clarify, Learn, Expose, Align, Replace) guides leaders to assess where they are, unlearn limiting beliefs, and cultivate habits that align with abundance and authenticity.In This Episode:[00:01] Dacia’s early career in hospitality and sales[00:28] Transition to mental health and education[01:01] Podcast introduction[03:10] Dacia’s leadership background and family influence[04:42] Lessons on leadership styles and personal growth[07:21] Professional journey: retail, hospitality, education, nonprofit[09:05] Entering the mental health nonprofit sector[12:07] Spirituality and integrity in leadership[13:39] Burnout, listening to inner voice, and career transitions[15:50] Inclusivity in spirituality and the inner voice[19:15] Rediscovering self and purpose[21:32] Current work: coaching, consulting, and book[24:28] The journey from stuck to unstoppable[29:00] The CLEAR framework for leadership development[31:57] Resources and ways to connect[33:20] Nonprofit sector challenges and hope[36:16] The importance of discernment and inner wisdom[36:45] Practical spirituality and quieting the mind[38:39] Tactics for breaking out of busyness[41:35] Closing remarks and contact informationResources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spirituality-in-leadership/id1713365406Dacia MooreWebsite:https://www.secondwindcc.com/Personal Site:https://www.daciamoore.com/Newsletter: https://www.swsnippet.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daciamooreswccBook: From Stuck to UnstoppableAndrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe | — | ||||||
| 10/15/25 | ![]() From Ashram to Boardroom: The Energy of Authentic Leadership, with Anna Pool | Have you ever walked into a room and instantly felt the energy shift before a single word was spoken? What if leadership isn’t just about what you say or do, but the energy you broadcast every day?In this episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, Andrew Cohn sits down with executive coach Anna Pool to explore the true frequency of leadership and how our internal state quietly shapes every meeting, decision, and connection. Anna’s story is extraordinary. She spent 20 years in an ashram devoted to meditation, yoga, and service before her spiritual community collapsed under the weight of betrayal. That loss became her greatest teacher, leading her from the ashram to the boardroom, where she now helps leaders embody authentic, energetic presence.Together, they unpack Dr. David Hawkins’ Map of Consciousness and what it reveals about courage, fear, and the “green zone” of leadership, where creativity and clarity thrive. Anna shares how awareness and intention can transform not only your leadership, but the very atmosphere around you.It’s a fascinating look at how to lead with your energy, not just your words, and why what you broadcast matters more than you think.Key TakeawaysYour Energy Precedes You: Leaders are constantly broadcasting an emotional frequency that directly impacts team morale, engagement, and psychological safety.The Map of Consciousness: A visual model for understanding emotional states, from reactive, low-frequency zones (shame, fear, anger) to creative, high-frequency zones (courage, acceptance, love).Courage is the Threshold: Effective, purposeful leadership becomes consistently accessible at the level of "Courage," where we move from reactivity to possibility and choice.Non-Judgmental Self-Awareness is Key: The most critical skill for spiritual and leadership growth is the ability to observe your own state without criticism, creating space for conscious change.Practical Resets Work: Simple interventions like brief guided meditations or "green zone exercises" can quickly shift a group's energy, leading to more productive and insightful outcomes.Executive Presence Reimagined: The elusive quality of "executive presence" is deeply connected to one's ability to broadcast calm, confident, and creative frequencies.In This Episode:[00:01] Anna’s ashram years and early awakening[04:44] What led her to drop out of college and join the community[08:41] Roles and leadership within the ashram[09:51] Marriage, vows, and challenges of communal life[10:49] The scandal that changed everything[12:57] Transitioning from ashram life to professional coaching[16:07] Discovering Dr. David Hawkins’ Map of Consciousness[20:42] The importance of non-judgmental self-awareness[23:36] Connecting spiritual insight to corporate leadership[24:48] The “green zone” and the courage frequency[30:38] Feeling versus thinking, how emotion drives energy[33:09] How leaders broadcast energy and influence others[36:13] Introducing spirituality in business without alienating teams[38:18] Redefining executive presence through vibrational leadership[41:17] Anna’s book on possibility thinking[42:21] The “green zone” mindfulness exercise[43:31] Why energy work belongs in every leadership toolkit[45:07] Where to find and connect with AnnaResources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spirituality-in-leadership/id1713365406Anna PoolWebsite:https://executivesavvyinc.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anna-pool-26a61110/Book: Creating Futures That Matter: Facilitating Change Through Shared VisionAndrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Referenced David Hawkins — Map of Consciousness ExplainedMusic: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe | — | ||||||
| 9/24/25 | ![]() Between Mindset and Heartset: The Unseen Journey of Becoming Whole, with Pablo Sillas Domínguez | Have you ever stopped to ask yourself why you think the way you think? Or what drives the choices you make every day in your work, your relationships, your leadership?In this episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, host Andrew Cohn speaks with Pablo Sillas Domínguez, a human relations executive and author of Heartset. Pablo shares his powerful personal journey from being a successful but workaholic HR director, whom he describes as the "wolf" of his own family, to embarking on a profound spiritual and transformational path.The catalyst for this change was a pivotal question from a coach: "Do you know why you think the way you think?" This launched Pablo on a years-long journey of introspection, unlearning, and integrating his reason with his emotions and intuition. He explains that this personal awakening mirrors a larger societal issue, where a hyper-competitive, ego-driven mindset has led to widespread stress and disconnection.Pablo introduces key concepts from his book, including "field thoughts," (the fusion of feeling and thinking), "charisms," (spiritual gifts), and “meditaction,” (combining meditation with action for the common good). He argues for bringing vulnerability and our whole selves into the workplace, moving from seeing people as disposable resources to recognizing them as indispensable individuals. The conversation offers a practical and aspirational framework for leaders to cultivate purpose, meaning, and healthier organizations.Key TakeawaysFrom ego to essence: Real transformation begins by asking honest questions about why we think and feel the way we do.Three pillars of being: Growth requires balance between reason, emotion, and intuition.The Heartset framework: Shifting from competition to awareness creates space for genuine connection and shared purpose.Unlearning to become: Letting go of old patterns and roles reveals authenticity and freedom.Vulnerability as strength: Honest openness builds empathy, trust, and deeper relationships in the workplace.Field thoughts and tharisms: Spiritual practices that turn personal growth into collective uplift.Meditation in action: True mindfulness lives in behavior, not just reflection.In This Episode:[00:01] Pablo’s awakening and spiritual transformation[03:27] Early career, success, and lessons from overwork[06:45] Realizing the cost of ego-driven ambition[08:15] The question that changed everything[10:01] Learning to feel, listen, and grow through awareness[12:25] The system and cultural conditioning of the ego[14:13] The missing half of human competencies[16:30] The path from ego to self to integration[18:14] Understanding “tharisms” and spiritual gifts[20:47] Unlearning to be yourself[23:10] Living authenticity within corporate systems[25:20] Vulnerability and seniority as mature leadership[28:26] Building trust through empathy[32:10] Introducing “field thoughts” and new paradigms for culture[39:19] Meditation and the call to act with awareness[42:11] Music, food, and creativity as channels for connection[45:12] Where to find Pablo’s book and playlists[46:23] Closing reflectionsResources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spirituality-in-leadership/id1713365406Pablo Sillas DomínguezWebsite: https://pablosillas.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablosillas/?locale=en_USBook by Pablo Sillas Domínguez: Heartset: The Renaissance 2.0 of Sapiens and Conscious OrganizationsHeartset: https://a.co/d/2Z0MqN6Andrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe | — | ||||||
| 9/3/25 | ![]() Faith, Health & Leadership: The Science Behind Spiritual Well-Being, with Harold Koenig | What if the key to a longer, healthier, and more successful life isn’t found in a diet or workout plan, but in what you believe, where your faith itself could help you live longer and thrive?In this compelling episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, host Andrew Cohn sits down with Dr. Harold Koenig, a preeminent scholar from Duke University's Center for Spirituality, Theology and Health. With over four decades of research, Dr. Koenig shares powerful, evidence-based insights on the undeniable connection between religious faith and well-being.He reveals how faith, on average, leads to greater happiness, better mental health, and even a longer lifespan by 7-14 years. The mechanisms are clear: faith provides meaning, fosters strong social support, and encourages healthier behaviors. But what about non-believers? Dr. Koenig discusses his book, Spiritual Readiness, explaining that anyone can achieve similar benefits by cultivating a positive belief system, a strong community, and moral habits, though he notes this is often easier within a religious framework.The conversation also explores the practical application of this research in leadership and healthcare, highlighting how faith-inspired leaders often create more inclusive and productive workplaces. This episode is a fascinating look at how nurturing our spiritual core can be a profound asset for personal and professional success.Key TakeawaysFaith and health are scientifically linked: Decades of peer-reviewed research show that religious or spiritual belief correlates with greater happiness, longer life expectancy, and better mental health.Non-believers benefit too: A positive belief system, moral habits, and strong social connections can provide similar health outcomes though sustaining them without a faith tradition can be challenging.Global evidence: Studies in Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, and Buddhism consistently reveal similar patterns of improved health and resilience.Healthcare opportunity: Despite overwhelming evidence, most healthcare systems neglect patients’ spiritual needs, though medical schools are slowly integrating this dimension into training.In This Episode:[00:01] Opening remarks and research overview[00:22] Non-believers and health benefits[00;57] Podcast introduction and guest background[03:55] Dr. Koenig’s center and research mission[05:04] Approaching the religion-health connection[06:45] Personal motivation for teaching[07:36] Center’s and personal research objectives[08:19] Most compelling recent research[09:28] Epidemiological evidence and health outcomes[10:03] Mechanisms behind health benefits[11:29] International research and consistency[12:14] Health behaviors among the religious[13:34] Human nature and self-control[15:34] Global interest in spirituality-health research[17:36] Acceptance and accessibility of research[18:11] Resources for further learning[19:23] Spirituality in the workplace[20:22] Religious faith and leadership qualities[21:52] Communicating research to business leaders[22:58] Application in healthcare leadership[25:33] Trends in healthcare spirituality[26:30] Optimism for future integration[27:39] Religion and optimism[29:18] Where to learn more[30:13] Closing remarksResources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spirituality-in-leadership/id1713365406Dr. Harold KoenigWebsite: https://spiritualityandhealth.duke.edu/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/harold-koenig-5a1544283Books by Dr. Harold Koenig: The Healing Power of Faith, Spiritual Readiness: A Guide for Non-Believers, and Handbook of Religion and Health (3rd Edition, 2024)Andrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe | — | ||||||
| 4/30/25 | ![]() How to Be Human at Work: Embracing Wholeness in Leadership, with Allison Schultz | In this episode of Spirituality in Leadership, host Andrew Cohn sits down with Allison Schultz, coach, writer, and co-founder of Reboot—to explore a deeper, more human-centered approach to leadership.At Reboot, coaching goes beyond developing managerial skills. It’s about transformation—helping leaders access their full humanity through radical self-inquiry, embodied presence, and spiritual integration.Drawing from her rich background, including a master’s in Religious Studies, a lifelong bond with horses, and her new book The Art of Being Human at Work, Ali shares candid stories and powerful insights. She speaks openly about how childhood emotional invisibility and early discomfort with corporate norms shaped her path. Her connection with horses, which she describes as a sacred devotional practice, has deeply informed her understanding of relational intelligence and inner work.Together, Andrew and Ali explore how spirituality, shadow work, and embodiment can shift the very foundation of how we lead and show up in the workplace.Key TakeawaysThe connection between early family dynamics and later leadership patternsWhy Religious Studies offers a surprisingly practical lens for coachingHow horses taught Ali the power of presence, embodiment, and devotionThe sacred importance of shadow work in leadership developmentWhy “making peace with your shadows” is foundational to authentic leadershipHow The Art of Being Human at Work bridges spiritual depth with professional growthThe impact of edited spiritual traditions—and what was left outHow journaling and reflection support sustained leadership growthLeadership as a relational and inner-development practice—not performanceIn This Episode:[00:00] Opening reflections on coaching and religious studies[01:05] Meet Ali Schultz: co-founder of Reboot and horsewoman-philosopher[03:48] Her early tension with work and the seeds of integration[07:53] The practicality of a Religious Studies degree for coaching[11:20] Horses and embodiment: a devotional relationship[15:25] Growing up emotionally unseen—and being witnessed by animals[18:45] Do coaches talk enough about religion and meaning?[22:23] Turning blog essays into a leadership wisdom book[24:37] Parker Palmer quote + spiritual wisdom in the workplace[26:52] How to use the book + journaling for integration[28:44] Reboot's approach to coaching and shadow work[33:55] The sacred act of holding space as a coach[36:59] Where to learn more: Reboot.io and beyond Resources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spirituality-in-leadership/id1713365406Allison SchultzWebsite: https://www.reboot.io/Book: The Art of Being Human at WorkLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alschultzAndrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe | — | ||||||
| 2/11/25 | ![]() Leading from Within: Harnessing Intuition and Spirituality for Powerful Leadership, with Alicia Rodriguez | What if the most effective and fulfilled leaders aren’t just those with the sharpest strategies or the best data, but those who tap into something deeper—something instinctive? Could the true power of leadership lie in embracing intuition, somatic awareness, and the ability to create nurturing environments? What if leadership goes beyond tactics and dives into the realm of self-awareness, authenticity, and inner wisdom?In this episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, host Andrew Cohn and Alicia Rodriguez, a coach and consultant based in the Algarve, Portugal, discuss the profound integration of spirituality in leadership. Alicia shares her expertise on how leaders can cultivate intuition and somatic awareness guiding them through experiential learning in nature and using innovative tools like sound healing and creative exercises. Together, Andrew and Alicia explore how these practices can help leaders not only embody their values but also navigate challenges with greater clarity, confidence, and impact.Alicia reflects on her transformative journey in Ecuador, where she learned from a shaman, and she touches on the insights found in her book, The Shaman’s Wife. Alicia also emphasizes the vital importance of rest, stillness, and creating the right conditions for success, all while inspiring personal and professional transformation.Key Takeaways The significance of intuition and somatic awareness in leadership. The impact of immersing ourselves in nature on developing intuitive abilities. The importance of congruence between a leader's values and actions. The use of experiential learning in nature to enhance self-awareness. Incorporation of healing modalities, such as sound therapy, in leadership coaching. The concept of "Becoming Limitless" and transcending self-imposed limits. The necessity of granting permission for emotional expression and authenticity.The transformative power of creative exploration and reframing perspectives on challenges.In This Episode: (00:00:00) – Understanding intuition (00:00:20) – Nurturing intuition (00:00:35) – Podcast introduction (00:01:09) – Meet Alicia (00:01:33) – Value of intuition (00:02:43) – Somatic awareness (00:03:50) – Indigenous wisdom (00:04:01) – Spirituality and leadership (00:06:44) – Inner and outer games (00:07:01) – Congruence in leadership (00:08:39) – Examples of incongruence (00:11:02) – Personal story (00:14:06) – Honoring dreams (00:15:18) – Greater awareness (00:19:14) – Sensing and leadership (00:21:12) – Developing intuition (00:21:56) – Becoming limitless (00:23:07) – Nature as a collaborator (00:24:29) – Opening up to new experiences (00:25:07) – Getting out of our heads (00:25:56) – Permission to access senses (00:27:54) – Curiosity and limitless possibilities (00:28:39) – Imagination over knowledge (00:29:06) – Emotional transformation (00:29:52) – The importance of rest in leadership (00:31:07) – Catalysts for personal reflection (00:32:06) – Introduction to the book (00:32:18) – Personal loss and career disillusionment (00:34:23) – Meeting the shaman (00:35:27) – Creating conditions for success (00:38:11) – The book's availability (00:39:08) – Sharing essays and writing (00:40:48) – Closing remarks on wisdom sharing (00:41:10) – Podcast conclusionResources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcast Spirituality in LeadershipAlicia Rodriguez Website: https://aliciamrodriguez.com/ Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/msaliciamrodriguez/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MsAliciaMRodriguez/ Book:https://aliciamrodriguez.com/the-shamans-wifeAndrew Cohn Website: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe | — | ||||||
| 1/29/25 | ![]() The Power of Trust: How Authenticity Transforms Leadership, with David Allen | Like it or not, leadership isn’t just about making decisions and getting things done—it’s about how you get things done. Productivity without purpose leads to burnout, while purpose without action leaves potential unfulfilled. What if the secret to stress-free leadership lies in balancing both?In this episode ofSpirituality in Leadership, host Andrew Cohn sits down with David Allen, the mastermind behindGetting Things Done: The Art of Stress-Free Productivity. Together, they explore the intersection of leadership, authenticity, and inner guidance, revealing how GTD principles can help leaders not only manage their workload but also lead with clarity, trust, and intention.From overcoming overwhelm to embracing the “still small voice” within, this conversation offers powerful insights on how leaders can create an environment of engagement, psychological safety, and true effectiveness. Whether you're a seasoned executive or just starting your leadership journey, this episode will challenge you to rethink productivity—not just as a tool for efficiency but as a pathway to deeper fulfillment and impact.Ready to transform the way you lead? Tune in now and discover how to integrate stress-free productivity with authentic leadership. Don’t forget to subscribe, share the episode, and let us know your biggest takeaway in the comments!Key TakeawaysThe intersection of spirituality and leadershipHow authenticity boosts engagement and trust within teamsThe importance of accepting current realitiesThe balance between personal productivity and collaborationThe role of inner guidance in decision-makingManaging leadership challenges and information overloadBuilding psychological safety in teamsClarity of purpose and direction in leadershipTrust, vulnerability, and authenticity in leadership dynamicsIntegrating spiritual wisdom with practical productivity strategiesTeaching productivity principles to the next generationIn This Episode:(00:04) – Welcome and introduction(00:36) – Meet David Allen(01:39) – Authenticity in leadership(02:47) – Embracing the current reality(03:57) – Tuning into your “still small voice”(04:51) – Balancing practical and spiritual approaches(06:01) – Understanding authenticity(08:11) – The cost of inauthenticity(09:11) – Developing your authentic self(10:30) – The significance of embracing the current reality(12:07) – Managing overwhelm as a leader(14:29) – Tools vs. authenticity(15:03) – Encouraging authentic leadership in others(16:07) – Framework for authentic conversations(19:17) – The importance of vulnerability and trust(20:36) – Engagement and leadership(21:21) – Spirituality’s role in leadership(21:30) – The power of spirit in leadership decisions(23:16) – Authenticity and shifting perspectives(25:48) – Revisiting the “still small voice”(27:13) – Trusting your inner wisdom(28:45) – The power of intention in leadership(29:00) – Drifting vs. intentionality in leadership(30:38) – Acceptance and cooperation(31:54) – Efficient use of energy(32:54) – Completion and creation(34:55) – GTD for teens(36:34) – Integration of wisdomResources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership PodcastSpirituality in LeadershipDavid AllenWebsite:https://gettingthingsdone.com/LinkedIn: https://nl.linkedin.com/company/david-allen-companyX:https://x.com/gtdguy?lang=en&mx=2Book:https://www.amazon.com/Getting-Things-Done-Stress-Free-Productivity/dp/0142000280Andrew CohnWebsite:https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak:https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe | — | ||||||
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| 1/15/25 | ![]() Reflections on Spirituality in Leadership: Insights, Values, Connection, and Taking Practical Action, with Andrew Cohn | In this thought-provoking episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, host Andrew Cohn delves into key themes and insights from previous episodes, weaving together lessons on spirituality and leadership. With heartfelt gratitude for the diverse perspectives shared by past guests, Andrew explores the intersection of personal effectiveness, leadership impact, and the integration of spirituality into professional practice. Andrew emphasizes the importance of aligning with personal values, embracing cultural awareness, and drawing inspiration from nature to cultivate resilience and creativity. Drawing on rich examples from his executive coaching experience, he offers reflective questions to inspire listeners to examine how their own experiences, values, and beliefs shape their leadership style and personal growth. This episode invites a deeper exploration of what it means to lead with purpose and authenticity.Key TakeawaysReflection on key themes from previous discussions about spirituality and leadership.Importance of personal values in leadership.Cultural awareness and its role in effective leadership.Integration of spirituality into leadership practices.The impact of nature on resilience and creativity.Examples from executive coaching and team alignment work.Diverse perspectives from various guests on meaningful work and relationships.Encouragement for listeners to engage in self-reflection and personal growth.The significance of authenticity and connection in leadership.Practical application of discussed themes in real-world scenarios.In This Episode:(00:00:00) Introduction to individual reflection(00:00:26) Gratitude for guests(00:01:26) Discussion of guest topics(00:02:45) Inspirational nature of conversations(00:05:07) Quotes and themes of service(00:06:23) Cultural awareness in leadership(00:08:53) Nature's role in resilience(00:10:22) Client work examples(00:13:06) Team dynamics and values(00:14:24) Practicality over buzzwords(00:15:33) Reflective questions for leadership(00:18:11) Conclusion and call to actionResources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership PodcastSpirituality in LeadershipAndrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/MusicKodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe | — | ||||||
| 10/30/24 | ![]() Allowing Ourselves to be Transparent to What’s Most True for Us, with Tom Hurley | In this episode of the podcast, Andrew speaks with his colleague, friend, and mentor Tom Hurley, a very experienced leadership development consultant, about how we can be transparent to what's most true for us as they explore the connection between spirituality and leadership, a topic Tom has been exploring for decades. Tom talks about his personal experience through a variety of dimensions, about how he defines spirituality, and about the importance of focusing on how we connect with our guidance. Tom says the most important invitation is for us to explore what is most deeply true for us and how this inquiry is fundamentally mysterious. This conversation is laced with wisdom and inspiration and invites us to consider how we can live lives that are more fulfilled and have a more positive impact on the world, even if we are operating in a challenging business paradigm that might sometimes make us confront our deepest personal values. | — | ||||||
| 10/16/24 | ![]() Kairos and the "Wake" of Leadership, with Karen and Matthew Fine | In this episode of the podcast, Andrew Cohn speaks with Karen and Matt Fine—business leaders, parents, and community contributors in Norfolk, Virginia. This is a conversation about simpler applications of spirituality in family and at work. Matt and Karen talk about their journeys, the impact of their personal spirituality in their household, and their work in the world. This broad conversation is full of wisdom and insight. The Fines are humble as they express their beliefs and their experience, however they offer a number of inspiring stories and invite us to use our experience and our inspiration to help us leave a positive “wake” as leaders in the world. | — | ||||||
| 10/2/24 | ![]() The Tenets of Yoga as Leadership Practices, with Chetan Roy | In this episode of the podcast, Andrew talks with Chetan Roy, who has held various positions in IT leadership in the banking sector in India, after working for many years outside India. Chetan shares some of his personal stories, including the experience of landing on a challenging first day in the US when he went abroad for the first time to attend university in New York. Chetan has deep knowledge of Hinduism, yoga, and other traditions and practices, and he shares some of his wisdom and experience about the connection between yoga practices and business leadership practices. He has a way of gently and practically distilling wisdom which comes through clearly as he shares his experience. This is a conversation across continents, cultures, and religions—and reinforces the universality of connection and personal values in leadership. | — | ||||||
| 9/18/24 | ![]() Applying a Spiritual Framework in International Development, with Barney Singer | In this episode of the podcast, Andrew speaks with Barney Singer, a social change leader with many decades of multidisciplinary experience in social development—in both the public and private sectors. Barney talks about his work, particularly in Sub-Saharan Africa, and how he brings a spiritual framework to his program, design, and delivery, as well as in his supervision of others. He shares a number of examples of the impact of his work and the impact of his belief system and approach on those whom his programs serve. Barney shares his wisdom very comfortably with the voice of both an expert and a “lifelong seeker." | — | ||||||
| 8/28/24 | ![]() The Meaning and Impact of Purpose, with Aaron Hurst | In this episode of the podcast, Andrew speaks with Aaron Hurst, author of the prominent book, The Purpose Economy, (2014). Aaron is a researcher, author, and social entrepreneur who is dedicated to driving positive societal change. He talks about his research, defining, cultivating, and leveraging purpose. Importantly, Aaron shares the four myths of purpose, as well as the importance of recognizing the diversity of purpose on any team. He also talks about the impact of a purpose mindset in the workplace, as opposed to a transactional mindset. This is a very practical and inviting conversation about what purpose really is, why it matters, and what steps leaders can take to cultivate it. | — | ||||||
| 8/14/24 | ![]() Spirituality as a Component to Intersectionality and Doing Good in the World, with Zhou Fang | Zhou Fang is a diversity, equity and inclusion practitioner in the Pacific Northwest who uses her multicultural and multilingual background to support her clients. She comes from a very different background than our other podcast guests, and she talks very practically about what spirituality means for her, and how she uses it to support her when things feel hard and dark. As she says, her spirituality supports her in demonstrating compassion. In very practical language, she says we practice leadership because we want to do good in the world and spirituality can help with that. At the end of the day, leadership is about the heart, and her spirituality supports her in reconnecting with her heart to be more effective in working with others. | — | ||||||
| 7/31/24 | ![]() The Pilgrim's Path: What 500 Miles with a Donkey Taught a Financial Controller About Leadership, with Jean-Christophe Normand | What happens when a meticulous financial controller leaves his comfortable corporate career to walk 500 miles across France with a donkey? And what could such a pilgrimage reveal about leadership, hope, and the sacred art of meeting another person without judgment?In this episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, Andrew Cohn sits down with Jean-Christophe Normand, an executive coach, professor at a Catholic university, and ordained deacon in the Roman Catholic Church. Jean-Christophe’s journey from corporate finance to spiritual leadership is anything but conventional.Raised in a culture where religion and public life are carefully separated, Jean-Christophe describes himself as “culturally and emotionally 100 percent French.” Yet around age 40, after navigating difficult adoptions, personal loss, and a growing sense that his career lacked deeper meaning, something shifted. With the support of a coach, he began exploring theology and gradually stepped away from his corporate role. When a devastating car accident left his mother tetraplegic, his search for purpose deepened even further.Seeking clarity, Jean-Christophe embarked on a 700-kilometer pilgrimage from Paris with a donkey, traveling with little planning and trusting the path to unfold. The journey became a turning point that opened the door to a life devoted to coaching, teaching, and spiritual service.Today, Jean-Christophe’s work bridges three worlds: leadership coaching, academic teaching, and spiritual ministry. Rather than seeing these roles as separate, he experiences them as deeply interconnected expressions of the same calling.At the heart of his philosophy is a simple yet powerful belief: hope is a gift. Even in times of darkness, leaders can hold space for the possibility that light will emerge. Through presence, listening, and deep respect for the humanity of others, leadership becomes less about authority and more about walking alongside others in their journeys.This conversation explores how faith can quietly shape leadership practice without imposing beliefs on others and how humility, curiosity, and compassion create space for transformation in individuals and organizations alike. Let’s dive in!In This Episode:[00:03] Opening reflections on faith and hope[00:48] Podcast introduction and guest overview[02:24] Jean-Christophe’s early life and French Catholicism[10:10] Career beginnings and personal challenges[11:15] Turning point: coaching, theology, and pilgrimage[15:45] Integration of coaching, teaching, and deacon roles[18:20] Faith as a source of hope and calm[19:42] Daily rituals and respect for others[21:45] Path of wisdom and individual growth[23:01] Faith as the foundation (iceberg metaphor)[23:49] Hope and redemption in coaching[25:55] Navigating secular environments with faith[26:44] Building relationships and avoiding judgment[29:42] Connecting across social levels[31:18] Leadership, responsibility, and spiritual alignment[34:10] Daily commitment and self-awareness[37:37] Coaching practice and spirituality[40:32] Contact information and future projects[43:16] Book recommendation and positive narratives[44:58] Closing remarks and gratitudeResources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spirituality-in-leadership/id1713365406Jean-Christophe NormandLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanchristophenormand/Website: https://rhinc.fr/en/Email: jeanchristophe.normand@orange.frAndrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Book The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson (2020)Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe | — | ||||||
| 7/17/24 | ![]() The Warrior's Compassion: Healing Masculinity from the Inside Out, with Sean Harvey | Did you know that in today’s chaotic world, even leaders can lose touch with the truth of the men they lead? The most vulnerable need a safe space to share their stories and connect with their feminine energy because that’s where real healing begins.In this episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, Andrew Cohn sits down with Sean Harvey, an interfaith minister, former Wall Street professional, and a pioneer in men’s healing work, as well as the author of Warrior Compassion: Unleashing the Healing Power of Men. Together, they explore what spirituality in leadership actually looks like when you strip away dogma and focus on being fully human.Sean shares his unconventional path from corporate life to ministry and into some of the most challenging environments imaginable, including prisons, police departments, and hyper-masculine cultures. At the center of the conversation is a simple but powerful idea: leadership begins with presence, safety, and the willingness to look inward. In a world that feels divided and overwhelmed, Sean talks about reconnecting with our inner “sacred compass” and learning to trust our own truth without needing to overpower someone else’s.They dive into the role of storytelling as a healing tool, why creating psychologically safe spaces matters more than perfect messaging, and how compassion is often misunderstood as weakness when it actually requires courage and strength. Sean also shares insights from his book, touching on men’s unspoken suffering, the balance of healthy masculine and feminine energies, and the idea of courageous surrender.It’s a thoughtful, grounded conversation about leadership, healing, and what it really means to lead from deeper humanity.Key TakeawaysTruth Begins Within: Leadership grounded in soul starts by listening to your inner compass rather than external noise or ideology.Create Safe Containers: Psychological safety and presence matter more than words or frameworks when inviting real transformation.Story as Medicine: Healing happens when we move from the wounding of our stories to empowerment without bypassing the pain.Compassion Is Strength: Fierce, unconditional love is not weakness but a powerful leadership capacity, especially in hyper-masculine cultures.Beyond Labels: Spiritual leadership can be practiced without spiritual language by focusing on deeper humanity, love, and connection.Courageous Surrender: True fulfillment comes from releasing ego, certainty, and control to follow a deeper soul mission.In This Episode:[00:00] Introduction[01:14] Introducing Sean Harvey and his work[02:21] Key themes in Sean’s work[05:36] Sean’s background and approach[07:48] Defining spirituality and soulfulness at work[09:23] Letting go and surrender in leadership[09:46] Discovering and accepting truth[11:21] Creating safe spaces and storytelling[12:53] Unpacking and healing stories[13:43] Unblocking wounds and unconditional love[15:12] The role of stories in identity and healing[17:33] Non-attachment to stories[18:40] Introducing spiritual themes without spiritual language[20:09] Compassion, masculinity, and universal truths[22:43] About the book: Warrior Compassion[24:49] Balancing masculine and feminine energies[27:31] Integration and the sacred masculine/feminine[28:42] Defining sacred masculine and feminine[30:38] Courageous surrender and the soul’s mission[32:31] Planting seeds and trusting the path[34:08] Humility, witnessing, and walking together[35:00] Closing and resourcesResources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spirituality-in-leadership/id1713365406Sean Harveyhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/seanharvey/WarriorCompassion.comBook: Warrior Compassion: Unleashing the Healing Power of MenAndrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe | — | ||||||
| 7/3/24 | ![]() Reflections on Spirituality in Leadership: Presence, Purpose and Fulfillment, with Andrew Cohn | In this reflective solo episode of Spirituality in Leadership, host Andrew Cohn steps away from interviews to share some of the deepest insights he has gained from nine months of podcast conversations and nearly three decades in the leadership development space.Andrew revisits the heart of why this podcast exists: the belief that long-term effectiveness in leadership is impossible without fulfillment. While stress, overwork, and dissatisfaction may be survivable in the short term, Andrew explains why they are unsustainable over time. He reflects on how spirituality in leadership is less about religion and more about presence, values, purpose, and the ability to listen deeply in a distracted world.Through stories from his work with executives, his years of Aikido practice, and his experiential leadership work with Equus in Santa Fe, Andrew unpacks the power of presence as a practical leadership skill. He explains how awareness creates choice, how values shape behavior, and why inner work is not optional for leaders who want to serve well.This episode is an honest and grounding reminder that leadership is not just about performance. It is about how we show up, how we listen, and how we stay human along the way.Key TakeawaysThe "Why" Behind the Podcast: Created to host essential workplace conversations that connect effectiveness and fulfillment for long-term sustainability.Fulfillment is a Strategic Imperative: Short-term stress is manageable, but lasting leadership requires deep personal and professional fulfillment.Broadening the Definition of "Spiritual": Spirituality is framed as purpose, values in action, and higher motivation open to all beliefs.Presence as the Core Practice: Being fully attentive, undistracted, and available is the key bridge between spirituality and leadership.We Have 1924 Brains in a 2024 World: Our nervous systems lag behind modern demands, requiring new tools and practices.From Awareness to Embodied Change: Growth comes through awareness, choice, action, and reflection.Leadership as Responsibility: Leaders are accountable for the safety, growth, and development of others.The Goal is Inclusion: Spiritual language is used to invite, not exclude.In This Episode:[00:00] Introduction and episode intention[01:28] Solo episode and feedback reflections[02:32] Foundations of the podcast[04:42] Professional background and experience[05:59] Inviting meaningful conversations[07:11] Defining spirituality in leadership[08:13] Individual and organizational dimensions[09:18] The practice of presence[10:24] Managing modern pressures and distractions[11:29] Presence in leadership practice[12:37] Making presence actionable[13:39] Aikido, experiential learning, and leadership[15:44] Values in action and leadership responsibility[16:41] Bringing spiritual qualities to work[17:44] Inclusivity and broad definitions[18:21] Closing thoughts and invitationResources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spirituality-in-leadership/id1713365406Andrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe | — | ||||||
| 6/6/24 | ![]() The Business of Being Alive: How Spirituality Fuels Innovation, with Kirk Souder | What if I told you that business, not government or nonprofits, has the greatest potential to change the world? And what if the secret to unlocking that power is not in working harder but in becoming more alive?In this episode of Spirituality in Leadership, host Andrew Cohn sits down with Kirk Souder, a seasoned branding leader and executive coach, to explore how spirituality is the missing gear for unprecedented creativity and impact in the business world.Kirk argues that business, as the most influential sector in society, has a profound potential to create change, but it is stuck in a lower gear of creation. He shares how moving from a paradigm of "availability" (what already exists) to one of "creation" (what's possible) unlocks a higher level of innovation. Drawing on wisdom from Howard Thurman and Joseph Campbell, Kirk makes a compelling case that the world does not need more hustle; it needs more people who are fully alive.Throughout the conversation, Kirk shares powerful stories, including how a client at Mattel trusted her sense of aliveness to spearhead the diversification of the Barbie doll, a move that laid the groundwork for the cultural phenomenon of the Barbie movie. He and Andrew also delve into the practical neuroanatomy of creativity, explaining how shifting from fear-based "shoulds" to curiosity and aliveness activates the brain's "dispersed mode" for breakthrough ideas.This episode is an invitation to run the experiment and see what happens when you trust your inner compass, let go of outdated identities, and lead from a place of genuine aliveness.Key TakeawaysBusiness as a Force for Change: Today’s corporations have unprecedented power to create transformation if they connect to a higher purpose.The Aliveness Compass: Spirituality, stripped of labels, simply means orienting around what brings you alive and allowing that energy to guide your work.Run the Experiment: Replace fear-based decision-making with curiosity. See what happens when you lead with trust and authenticity.The Barbie Case Study: True innovation begins when leaders align their personal purpose with their organization’s mission.Nature as a Teacher: Like redwoods letting go of lower branches to reach the light, leaders must release what no longer serves in order to grow.The Paradigm Shift: Move from scarcity (What’s available?) to creation (What’s possible?). That is where innovation truly begins.Spirituality in Action: It is not about rituals; it is a way of being that fuels creativity, purpose, and connection in every decision.In This Episode:[00:00] Opening reflections on spirituality in business[01:23] Meet Kirk Souder: from branding to coaching[04:16] The intersection of spirituality and business[06:55] Rethinking business purpose through aliveness[09:57] Howard Thurman’s wisdom and inner guidance[10:45] Running the experiment and leading with trust[12:31] The Barbie story: purpose in corporate creativity[16:31] Neuroscience of curiosity and innovation[19:34] Creating joy as a driver of change[22:39] Lessons from nature and redwoods[24:29] Rethinking identity and organizational purpose[29:03] Emergent strategy and natural systems[31:27] From scarcity to creation paradigm[34:06] Living vision and designing from feeling[35:15] The “S” word (spirituality) and “F” word (feelings)[37:39] Rediscovering purpose beyond success[40:57] The Barbie effect and the Microsoft mindset shift[44:33] Nature’s perfection in innovation and efficiency[46:01] The call to live and lead from alivenessResources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spirituality-in-leadership/id1713365406Kirk SouderWebsite:https://kirksouder.co/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirksouder/Andrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe | — | ||||||
| 4/25/24 | ![]() From Reactivity to Presence: Somatic Practices for Leaders with Kimberly Arnold | Ever wondered how somatic practices like aikido and tai chi can enhance your leadership skills? In this episode of the Spirituality in Leadership Podcast, Andrew Cohn welcomes Kimberly Arnold, transformation strategist, former corporate leader at PwC, Blue Shield, and Salesforce, and founder of Somatic Leadership. Kimberly shares her personal and professional journey from high-pressure corporate roles to somatic practices rooted in Aikido, Tai Chi, and Feldenkrais.Together, Andrew and Kimberly explore how leaders can move beyond reactivity, regulate their nervous systems, and shift the energy in a room from fear and anxiety to connection and collaboration. Kimberly offers powerful stories from navigating corporate crises at Salesforce to facilitating executive conflict resolution under an oak tree that show how grounding, centering, and intentional presence can transform leadership impact.She also introduces her practice of “Micro Shift Monday,” a series of small, practical, weekly practices designed to help leaders make their body an ally and bring more ease and wisdom into their day-to-day leadership.This is an inspiring and practical conversation for anyone seeking to integrate spirituality and embodiment into leadership. Let’s dive in!Key TakeawaysYour body is a spiritual ally; grounding and centering practices can shift reactivity into presence and connection.Leaders set the tone in the room: emotions are contagious, so awareness of your inner state is critical.Somatic practices create space to transform “oh-shit moments” into opportunities for clarity and collaboration.Habits and daily rituals, like Kimberly’s “cup practice,” help leaders anchor intentions and release stress.Small micro shifts, consistently practiced, can repave neural pathways and turn helpful states into lasting traits.True transformation happens when leaders integrate mind, body, and spirit not just strategy and words.In This Episode:(00:01) Reactive nervous systems and societal fear(00:30) Podcast introduction(01:07) Episode recap and framing(03:10) Kimberly’s background and somatic journey(04:07) Integrating body and leadership(05:35) Spiritual dimensions in the workplace(07:21) Contagious emotions and energy in meetings(08:03) Grounding and centering under stress(10:57) Transforming conflict through somatic practices(12:41) Practical and aspirational aspects of somatic work(13:51) Building habits for somatic awareness(14:53) Facilitating C-suite conflict resolution(17:52) Advice to younger self: Pause in urgency(19:12) Body as fastest path to change(20:25) Daily cup practice for intention and reflection(21:49) Micro shift Monday initiative(22:50) Closing and podcast outroResources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spirituality-in-leadership/id1713365406Kimberly S. ArnoldLinktree: https://linktr.ee/kimberlysarnoldLinkedIn: Kimberly S. ArnoldSomatic Leadership Micro Shift Monday: LinkedIn weekly seriesAndrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe | — | ||||||
| 2/15/24 | ![]() Spirituality In The Workplace With Martin Rutte | We have been conditioned to think that spirituality is not something we could bring to work. It's something we leave at the door, never to be spoken about in the halls of business and professionalism. But as we'll see later, this is a huge missed opportunity for all stakeholders involved. In this episode, we are joined by Martin Rutte, a pioneer in the intersection of business and spirituality. Martin shares his journey into this transformative space, revealing a pivotal moment at an Indian monastery that sparked a realization about the absence of spirituality in his life. However, as Rutte navigated the resistance, he discovered that spirituality at work holds the potential to enhance authenticity, trust, and engagement. The conversation unfolds to explore the positive impact of framing spirituality as an ongoing inquiry rather than a set answer, highlighting the importance of creating a safe and permissible space for individuals to explore and express their spiritual dimensions in the workplace. Tune in for more! | — | ||||||
| 1/25/24 | ![]() Possibility To Reality: Spiritual Leadership In Human Services With David Swain | This fascinating conversation focuses on the deeper dimensions of providing services to people with intellectual disabilities. Andrew speaks with David Swain, the CEO of Endeavour Foundation, a provider of support services and employment to people living with disabilities in Queensland, Australia. David talks about caring in action, recognizing the inherent worth of the people being served, with a focus on making impact rather than making money. At the same time, David talks about the need to speak the language of business when running a large organization. He leads us into the intersection of purpose-driven action and leadership, the key things that allow him to create a greater impact organizationally and individually. David also talks about the need to focus on and measure the being level at work, not just the doing. He serves as a wonderful inspiration for those of us trying to make a greater impact with our work in the world. | — | ||||||
| 10/23/23 | ![]() Spirituality In Leadership Trailer | You are listening to Spirituality In Leadership Podcast. Join Andrew Cohn in exploring different ways leaders can leverage their spiritual dimensions for the benefit of others. Each episode focuses on the thread that connects spirituality and leadership, providing you with the roadmap to become more fulfilled and effective in all roles of your life. Prepare to dive into these insightful discussions that will guide you on embracing servant leadership, understanding your purpose in life, and tapping into your core dimensions. | — | ||||||
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