From Underbelly to Winx: The Many Lives of Andrew Rule
From Sport & Life with Sam Kekovich and Leon Wiegard by Sam Kekovich & Leon Wiegard
April 28, 2026 · 38 min · Season 10 · Episode 14
About this episode
A conversation with journalist Andrew Rule about his career, investigations, and experiences in crime writing and sports.
A wide‑ranging, story‑packed conversation with one of Australia’s most decorated journalists and crime writers, Andrew Rule . From his early days at the Gippsland Times to covering disasters, war zones and the rise of Underbelly , Rule walks Sam and Leon through a career built on curiosity, courage and an uncanny ability to read people. He reflects on the investigations that changed the country — including his work exposing Geoff Clark — and the legal and personal risks that come with naming names in the underworld. Rule also shares vivid memories of growing up around Framlingham, the characters who shaped him, and the complex world of sources, secrets and trust. There’s time for sport too: his brief life as an amateur jockey, his love of racing, and the inside stories behind his acclaimed book on Winx. Plus, tales of Lionel Rose, Billy Longley, the Carlton Crew, and why crime — from Shakespeare to the modern day — continues to fascinate us all. A cracking episode with a master storyteller who has lived it, written it, and seen more than most.
People in this episode
Hosts: Sam Kekovich, Leon Wiegard
Guest: Andrew Rule
Topics covered
- journalism
- crime writing
- sports
- investigations
- storytelling
- racing
Keywords
- Andrew Rule
- journalism
- crime
- Underbelly
- Winx
- investigations
- sports
- storytelling
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Underbelly, Gippsland Times
Books & works: Winx
Places: Australia, Framlingham
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