Steve's Rules with legendary executive recruiter Steve Nelson from the McCormick Group
by Steve Nelson
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President Trump's Executive Orders--One Year Later
Jun 5, 2026
18m 13s
Deborah Farone on How Women (and Men) Can Build Thriving Law Practices
May 14, 2026
22m 13s
A New Age of Partner Recruiting and Integration--An Interview with Chuck Curtis
Apr 8, 2026
20m 54s
Steve's Rules: Interview with Legal Strategist Wendy Bernero
Feb 15, 2026
31m 46s
The Emergence of Practice and Legal Project Management----A Discussion with Susan Lambreth of Law Vision
Dec 7, 2025
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 6/5/26 | President Trump's Executive Orders--One Year Later✨ | executive ordersgovernment impact+3 | David Ris | McCormick Group | — | executive ordersturnover+3 | — | 18m 13s | |
| 5/14/26 | Deborah Farone on How Women (and Men) Can Build Thriving Law Practices✨ | women in lawlaw practice development+3 | Deborah Farone | CravathDebevoise+2 | — | law practiceswomen lawyers+3 | — | 22m 13s | |
| 4/8/26 | A New Age of Partner Recruiting and Integration--An Interview with Chuck Curtis✨ | partner recruitingintegration+3 | Chuck Curtis | CLCurtis31 ConsultingPillsbury Winthrop+1 | — | partner recruitingChuck Curtis+3 | — | 20m 54s | |
| 2/15/26 | Steve's Rules: Interview with Legal Strategist Wendy Bernero✨ | legal marketingbusiness development+3 | Wendy Bernero | Yate CollaborativeCollege of Law Practice Management | — | legal marketingbusiness development+3 | — | 31m 46s | |
| 12/7/25 | The Emergence of Practice and Legal Project Management----A Discussion with Susan Lambreth of Law Vision✨ | Practice ManagementLegal Project Management+3 | Susan Lambreth | LawVision | — | Practice ManagementLegal Project Management+3 | — | 40m 29s | |
| 10/1/25 | Interview with Jonathan Greenblatt, Co-Founder of Legal Innovators✨ | legal recruitmentjunior associates+3 | Jonathan Greenblatt | Legal Innovators | — | legal industryrecruitment+3 | — | 31m 54s | |
| 8/5/25 | Law Firm Partner Compensation---An Interview with Tim Corcoran✨ | law firm compensationpartner compensation+3 | Tim Corcoran | Corcoran Consultant Group | — | law firmcompensation systems+3 | — | 33m 00s | |
| 5/27/25 | The Impact of the Trump Administration's Executive Orders on Law Firm Recruiting✨ | executive orderslaw firm recruiting+3 | Dave Ris | Trump AdministrationMcCormick Group+1 | — | Trump Administrationexecutive orders+3 | — | 16m 49s | |
| 2/6/25 | Under the Trump Administration the Legal Landscape is Shifting—But So Are Your Opportunities✨ | legal marketTrump administration+5 | — | Trump AdministrationMcCormick Group+2 | — | legal landscapegovernment attorneys+5 | — | 24m 49s | |
| 11/20/24 | Steve and Murray go deep with American Lawyer's Patrick Fuller✨ | legal landscapeantitrust+4 | Patrick Fuller | American Lawyer MediaALM | — | legal landscapeantitrust+5 | — | 56m 53s | |
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| 10/17/24 | Executive Recruiting Agreements✨ | executive recruitinglegal recruiting agreements+3 | Murray Coffey | The McCormick GroupM Coffey+1 | — | executive recruitinglegal agreements+3 | — | 35m 02s | |
| 8/30/24 | The Career Road Less Taken: Pricing Professional to Chief Operating Officer✨ | career developmentlaw firm management+3 | — | McCormick Group | law firms | career roadchief operating officer+3 | — | 25m 47s | |
| 6/23/24 | Two legal recruiters walk into a bar...don't be the punchline | Send us Fan Mail In this episode, Murray Coffey and Steve Nelson delve into the intricacies of legal recruiting, offering a blend of practical advice and personal anecdotes. They discuss the best ways to manage recruiter inquiries, key considerations for those contemplating a career move, and the importance of building solid relationships with reputable recruiters. Additionally, they cover current market trends and emphasize the significance of carefully evaluating counteroffers. This episode... | 45m 38s | ||||||
| 5/10/24 | Episode Three: Plan on it | Send us Fan Mail Overview: This episode provides a deep dive into the essentials of business planning for attorneys considering lateral moves. Steve Nelson leverages his extensive experience in legal recruitment to guide listeners on crafting high impact business plans that align with market trends and firm expectations. This episode may be our most practical and actionable let. We even have Steve’s business plan templates in our show notes. Key Insights: Business Plan Importance: Detai... | 27m 25s | ||||||
| 3/25/24 | Season Two, Episode Two of Steve's Rules: Making Bank | Send us Fan Mail The decision to pursue other opportunities is multilayered with no one consideration being more important than the other. Yet compensation often is a driver. But most professionals including lateral partners at law firms don't do a deep enough dive on a target firm's compensation structure. Each firm approaches compensation differently. Which means it is incumbent on the candidate to know what is important to them and to ask the right questions. So to, firms... | 30m 39s | ||||||
| 2/12/24 | Listen to Top Executive Recruiters Share How to Turn Government Service Into a Career As a Government Relations Professional | Send us Fan Mail Leveraging government service into a lucrative career in government relations can be done. But, it can be tricky to turn your knowledge and connections into a career path. This podcast will be especially informative for those folks currently in Capitol Hill contemplating your next move. We start out the second season of the acclaimed Steve's Rules podcast series with a fast paced discussion featuring McCormick group principals David Ris and Tim Horgan. Join Steve and his coll... | 31m 53s | ||||||
| 12/23/23 | Episode 7 Season Finale: 2023 Wrap up with Steve and his Colleagues Saadia Sultan and Rob Verga | Send us Fan Mail Well, here it is the 2023 season finale of Steve's Rules. In this very special episode we are joined by Steve's colleagues Saadia Sultan and Rob Verga who share insights from the 2023 lateral recruiting in market and their predictions for 2024. We end our podcast with some truly hard won observations about how firms and candidate's can impede their own efforts and some best practices as well. As always we welcome your thoughts and ideas about how we can impr... | 42m 14s | ||||||
| 11/16/23 |  Episode 6 of Steve's Rules- The difference between retained and contingency search and why it matters | Send us Fan Mail In this episode Steve provides some intel on the hottest lateral partner market (hint they call this city the Third Coast, and its the place Murray first drew breath.) Then we discuss contingency and retained search and relative merits of each approach based on your firm's profile and needs. Finally we hear a hunk from Steve's standup show. We packed a lot into 30 minutes. If you have any thoughts or ideas for future programs please feel free to contact Steve or Murray. Thank... | 30m 40s | ||||||
| 10/17/23 |  Steve Addresses Some of the Landmines in Hiring Business Professionals | Send us Fan Mail Law firms need to hire business professionals as skilled and capable as the lawyers in their respective areas of focus. And yet, many firms still try to hire professional staff by relying on self-sourcing, agencies, or contingency recruiters. Steve explains why these results are often mixed at best. And what firms need to do to make sure they are recruiting the very best talent. Steve also shares his thoughts on some recent survey results regarding lateral partner financial p... | 30m 10s | ||||||
| 9/7/23 |  Steve throws out the book | Send us Fan Mail “What does the book look like?” is generally one of the first questions asked by a firm when evaluating a potential lateral partner candidate. But is this really the best way to evaluate a candidate? Firms and candidates spend considerable time completing and evaluating detailed lateral partner questioners. Yet, the portable business the lateral can (hopefully) deliver is often the overriding factor in considering whether a lateral candidate is the right person to bring into ... | 34m 57s | ||||||
| 8/11/23 |  The LPQ and you | Send us Fan Mail This episode is a must listen for anyone involved in thelateral recruiting process, especially those in decision making roles. Steve’s Rules dives into the Lateral Partner Questionnaire (LPQ) which has become a cornerstone element of the recruiting process. As lateral recruiting has continued to gain prominence as an essential element of many firm’s growth objectives the need to accurately evaluate a potential partner’s likelihood of success becomes critical. And increasingly... | 26m 58s | ||||||
| 6/26/23 |  Who are you...Episode two of Steve's Rules for presenting the most authentic view of your firm to potential lateral partner candidates | Send us Fan Mail For the second episode of Steve’s Rules, we dig into how a firm can make sure it is doing everything it can to attract the best and most appropriate lateral candidates. Hint: talk to your marketing department. This is a key episode for anyone involved in the day-to-day lateral recruiting efforts including Managing Partners, Directors of Legal Recruiting, and practice group heads. Steve also tells you what not to put in your lateral recruiting materials. And we open with a bri... | 25m 15s | ||||||
| 5/3/23 |  Welcome to Steve's Rules with legendary executive recruiter Steve Nelson from the McCormick Group-This episode...How and why to recruit high level government officials and lawyers | Send us Fan Mail In this episode Steve Nelson walks the listener through the key considerations for both firms and candidates as they consider the intricacies of recruiting high level government officials from this or any presidential administration. For reasons Steve lays out in detail, now is the right time for firms looking to hire federal officials to jump into the mix. So to, for candidates, now is time to make the move if Andare thinking about making the jump. And for putative candidate... | 18m 50s | ||||||
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