
Tactical & Practical
by Nate Lagos
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Recent episodes
How Gruns Built Their Website (Mike De Lia From Gruns)
Aug 28, 2026
23m 43s
Write Better Yapper Ads w/ Harry Delmage
Aug 20, 2026
23m 26s
Million Dollar Headlines
Aug 4, 2026
11m 28s
6 Steps To Fix Your Meta Ad Performance, with Cody Wittick
Jul 16, 2026
33m 36s
Gifting Messaging Without The Discount
Jul 1, 2026
10m 14s
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| Date | Episode | Description | Length | ||||||
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| 8/28/26 | How Gruns Built Their Website (Mike De Lia From Gruns) | Follow Mike De Lia On Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-de-lia-047576178/ Tactical & Practical is brought to you buy Intelligems & Waste Not. We talk about Intelligems a ton on this episode, because it was SO INSTRUMENTAL in how Mike tested & built this website. Go to Intelligems.io to start increasing website performance NOW! Waste not makes sure every cent of every dollar spent on Meta isn't WASTED! See how they helped me decrease CAC here: https://www.wastenot.io/case-studies/large-dtc-watch-brand?ref=nathaniel | 23m 43s | ||||||
| 8/20/26 | Write Better Yapper Ads w/ Harry Delmage | Harry Delmage is the king of YAPPER ads: long form, video ads that dominate ad accounts he runs as part of his agency, Roly Poly Digital. He drops some GEMS in this episode about how to write better ads that scale businesses profitably. This episode is brought to you by Intelligems.io & https://www.wastenot.io/case-studies/large-dtc-watch-brand?ref=nathaniel | 23m 26s | ||||||
| 8/4/26 | Million Dollar Headlines | Usually, I write headlines with only ONE customer persona in mind. But that strategy kinda breaks down when I need to write headlines on your homepage, collection pages, or PDPs where a diverse mix of people are visiting those pages all the time. And I've only found one way to do that, but it's now worked across 16 brands I've tested it at. Here's the difference: If I'm writing to a gift-giver during Q4, I want the messaging to speak specifically to them. I want them thinking that they're not just buying a *thing*, they're buying a symbol of their love, their appreciation, and something that satisfies their desire to NUTURE the person they're buying a gift for. It'll sound something like, "Show your [husband, wife, son, daughter, boyfriend] they're [worth it, earned it, appreciated enough] with a gift that's as [positive adjective] as they are." "Show your man he's worth it with a gift that's as showstopping as he is." "Let her know you see & appreciate everything she does by giving her a gift that's as uniquely beautiful as she is." See what I mean? But, most pages on your website ARE NOT persona-specific. Your homepage, collection pages, and PDPs get a diverse group of traffic. Some gift givers, some people buying from themselves, some ppl who are super problem-product aware, some who are less educated, some are confident, some are insecure, etc... So, you need a headline format that can work well for all of them. There's only one headline format that I've ever seen work well in those cases, and I break it down in this episode of tactical & practical, brought to you by Intelligems.io & Waste Not (https://www.wastenot.io/case-studies/large-dtc-watch-brand?ref=nathaniel) | 11m 28s | ||||||
| 7/16/26 | 6 Steps To Fix Your Meta Ad Performance, with Cody Wittick | Cody Wittick makes his Tactical & Practical debut by outlining the 6 steps he takes when Meta performance drops, rather than panic pulling levers. His full breakdown can be found in this tweet: https://x.com/Cody_Wittick/status/2059355220358955458?s=20 This episode is brought to you by Intelligems.io, which is my favorite tool to use to increase meta performance. Test headlines, copy, images, offers, prices, and everything else you can think of on your shopify store! If you're struggling to get meta to reach new people, you need to be using WasteNot.io | I've used it at two brands now and seen an immediate reduction in CAC that resulted from us getting better at excluding past customers. Click here to sign up today: https://www.wastenot.io/case-studies/large-dtc-watch-brand?ref=nathaniel | 33m 36s | ||||||
| 7/1/26 | Gifting Messaging Without The Discount | Did you know you can start running gifting messaging on your site & in your ad account BEFORE you launch a sale, like Father's Day or BFCM? Early in the month of May, I tested Father's Day Gifting Messaging across websites of 4 different brands that all sell products that make good father's day gifts. Even before the sale or the offer is launched, this messaging outperformed evergreen site content, increasing CVR & RPS. Then, and maybe most importantly, once the sale does launch, we already know which messaging is best to roll out across the site and ad account, and can squeeze every single drop we can out of the promo period. One client, YoY father's day comps are nuts: They spent 30% LESS money on ads, and did 34% MORE revenue. You 1000% need a plan to test gifting messaging in OCTOBER this year, weeks before you launch any kind of holiday sale, so that when you launch the sale, you're launching it already having your messaging dialed in. Tactical & Practical is brought to you by Intelligems.io - they're the software solution that allows me to test all this messaging on site and shows me where we're increasing Conversion Rate, Revenue Per Session, and a lot more! Tactical & Practical is also sponsored by Waste Not! A software that fortifies your Meta ad spend to cut waste, reduce audience overlap, and decrease cost to reach new audiences! Check out what they've done for me here: https://www.wastenot.io/case-studies/large-dtc-watch-brand?ref=nathaniel | 10m 14s | ||||||
| 6/24/26 | Linear TV Outpaces Meta At Better ROAS | Proof Wallets is spending as many ad dollars on Linear TV as they are on Meta, and performance is better on TV... If I was consulting for @DanaPeters0321 at the time they launched TV campaigns, I probably would've told him not to do it. I would've argued that it's a distraction this early in the business, and that there was still a lot of room for them to grow & optimize Meta. Good thing Dana and I didn't meet till a few months later, because now there's one ad that has spent multiple millions of dollars and isn't slowing down. This episode of Tactical & Practical is SUPER tactical, we cover the logistics of Tatari advertising (this episode is not sponsored by them btw), how performance has been, and their trajectory for this channel. This episode is brought to you by Intelligems.io. Optimize every piece of your shopify store by split testing prices, offers, content, new landing pages and more. It can even split test by traffic source which is necessary if you're going to be testing new channels like we talk about in this episode! If you're struggling to get meta to reach new people, you need to be using WasteNot.io | I've used it at two brands now and seen an immediate reduction in CAC that resulted from us getting better at excluding past customers. Click here to sign up today: https://app.wastenot.io/users/register/?ref=nathaniel | 24m 24s | ||||||
| 6/17/26 | To Iterate? Or Not To Iterate? | When should you iterate? And when should you test net new creative concepts? The simple answer for me, is when you hit a point of diminishing returns with iterations, shake the etch a sketch, and start over with net new concepts The first round of headline testing increased CVR by 27% The next round, we iterated on the winners, and increased CVR by 11% The next round, we iterated again and only increased CVR by 2% It’s time to start the cycle over This episode is sponsored by intelligems.io - the best way I know how to run tests like I show in this episode. | 10m 01s | ||||||
| 6/5/26 | Fashion Meets Marketing | Great conversation with @heyitsalexP around perceived value, marketing in the world of fashion, upsells, bundles, and more. Tactical & Practical is sponsored by Intelligems.io - my go to testing tool to help find new ways to increase the percieved value of our products. Check them out! Follow Alex on twitter and subscribe to her newsletter here: https://x.com/heyitsalexP https://t.co/kIyKSdSSQ1 | 32m 56s | ||||||
| 5/21/26 | Country Music Meets Creative Strategy | The most valuable copywriting inspiration I've ever gotten is from songwriters. They're the best at writing in a way that makes people feel something. They're excellent at making the aspirational feel within reach. They're better than any marketer at making people feel at home, and comfortable in their lyrics. Great advertising should aspire to do those things too. So, in this episode, I share 3 songs that taught me how to speak to our customers with more familiarity, how to hype up our customers without being too cheesy or on the nose, and how to bring an aspirational lifestyle to appear within reach to our customers if they use your product. This episode is brought to you by Intelligems.io so you can test copy, content, prices, and offers all across your shopify site to make more money! Sign up for my copywriting skool here: https://www.skool.com/bottomsup/about | 19m 17s | ||||||
| 5/6/26 | Bottom's Up Copywriting (I want to write copy for you) | Since I'm taking some time off from full time employment, my entire steak & whiskey budget is now dependent on freelance work... So, I'm going to market my freelance services the way I wish freelancers & agencies marketed to me while I was on the brand side. Which means... 1. I won't make you hop on a call if you don't want to, I'll explain everything in this podcast. 2. I won't gatekeep my process, I'll lay it out in detail. If you have an internal team that are experienced & talented copywriters, & they have the spare time to adopt new processes, you can send them this and you can execute on it without paying me a dime. You're welcome. 3. I won't charge bigger brands bigger retainers just because they can afford it. The price is the price is the price, and I explain in this episode why my flat fee (no percentage of spend bullshit) is a no brainer and you're guaranteed to make a ton of money off my work. Who's ready to write better copy & make more money? | 17m 03s | ||||||
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| 5/1/26 | Media buying can be deadly (Connor MacDonald from Ridge speaks) | CMO of Ridge & the Most Valuable Guest of Tactical & Practical, Couuor Mac joins the pod to talk media buying, on-site messaging testing, and hammock-maxxing. | 38m 22s | ||||||
| 4/24/26 | Why Split Testing Doesn't Work For Some Of You | Some of you have spent a year split testing on your website and don't have anything to show for it... and I think I know why. I ran a headline test on a landing page. The control variant was a very evidence-based, authority / credibility kinda headline. The variant that won the split test, and increased CVR by 48%, was on the other end of the spectrum, it was very emotional & benefit driven. THAT DOESN'T MEAN I SHOULD JUST SET THAT HEADLINE LIVE AND FORGET IT. All the results of that split test tells us is that CURRENTLY, our ads are doing a better job of bringing emotional buyers to our website. It means that we're NOT good at bringing logical buyers into our funnel. So now, my job is to create two separate funnels for the same product, one that appeals to emotional, benefit driven buyers, and the other that appeals logical buyers. Split testing should teach you how to grow your TAM, not just increase conversion rate for one specific cohort of your target market. | 6m 09s | ||||||
| 4/16/26 | The Difference Between $50mm/yr and $10mm/yr | Brands need to act differently at different stages of growth. What works for a $50 million/year brand might drown a $10 million/year brand. Understand where you're at, and act accordingly. | 17m 51s | ||||||
| 4/8/26 | How I Build Marketing Teams | How I build marketing teams When you should hire in-house vs agencies/freelancers How to keep employees accountable & productive without endless meetings & micro-managing & more don't miss this episode. | 29m 37s | ||||||
| 4/1/26 | AI: The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly Side Of Artificial Intelligence | AI is great at some things It's bad at others And sometimes, it straight up makes mistakes or lies to me... I think it's all important that we take a step back, understand its strengths, weaknesses, how it can help us today, and how we should be building it into our brands for the future. This episode is all about The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly side of Artificial Intelligence: | 24m 35s | ||||||
| 3/18/26 | Performance Marketers vs Brand Builders (Not What You Think) | Don't hire a performance marketers to do a brand builder's job. | 9m 14s | ||||||
| 3/11/26 | Don't Launch That New Channel... Until You Try This | BEFORE you launch that new advertising channel, try these 5 things to try to spark new growth in a product or brand that's hit a plateau: 1. Test new prices & offers on your hero SKU. Price-Market-Fit is not something you can set and forget, just look at gas prices the last couple weeks. The price consumers are willing to pay for your product changes with inflation, election cycles, and category maturity. If you haven't tested your prices or offers in the last year, they're officially out of date, test them again. 2. Shoot new creative in different formats and with different creators than you've worked with in the past. If you're ad account is full of UGC, maybe try producing some high quality, polished assets. If you've relied super hard on videos, try some statics. Not every person in your target market will resonate with the same content format. When I see UGC as a marketer, I assume it's fake and dismiss it. When my wife sees UGC of someone who has the same pain points as her, she trusts it. Don't leave any part of your target audience out in the cold, make creative that can resonate with every corner of your audience. 3. Take this mentality into your copywriting, too. If you typically lean into negative, fear of loss, risk aversion messaging, then you're only going to acquire customers who resonate with that. Try to frame it positively, or be more optimistic in your messaging. Instead of showing them what they might lose without your product, show them what they'll gain by adding it to their lives. 4. Look for anomalies in your customer reviews to give you new ideas for ad angles. If 80% of your 5-star reviews are about how awesome your product looks, that means you're really good at marketing how good your product looks. Acquisition is self fulfilling prophecy... But if 10% of your 5-star reviews are about how good your products makes someone feel, then you're probably MISSING that benefit in your top spending ads. Go make more ads & landing pages about how they'll FEEL, and you'll acquire more of those customers that your last round of ads wasn't talking to. 5. Make new products that appeal to a wider range or a different segment of your market. Jack Daniel's does this perfectly. I never buy their base bottle, Old No 7 that costs $25. But there's 8 bottles of specialty, limited edition Jack Daniel's bottles that I paid over $500 each for on my shelf right now. They never would've gotten that money from me if they didn't push into a new market. Mercedes does this great, too. They make the G wagon for people who are rich. They make the C class for people who want to look rich. Rolex sells the dayjust and the daytona, to completely different tax brackets. Puma sells some traditional golf shoes, and ones with camo print all over them. I'd never by the traditional ones (or anything from puma usually) but I'm on my second pair of the camo ones... and so on. Obviously new product dev takes a lot of time, but you can definitely do those first 4 things BEFORE adding the complexity and unknowns of a new advertising channel. Then, when you do launch that new channel, you'll have more learnings for how to make it work for you. Happy scaling | 19m 44s | ||||||
| 3/4/26 | You're Under Utilizing Your Post Purchase Survey | Did you know that you don't have to just ask "How did you hear about us?" in your post purchase survey? I think it's way less valuable to use it as a form as attribution, and way MORE valuable to ask them questions that'll shape your marketing strategy in the future. At Adapt, I'm asking "When did you first hear about us?" "Who supports you on your health journey?" "How do supplements fit into your daily routine?" "What's your favorite way to stay active?" Each of those will affect how we measure our marketing efforts, how we position our brand, what kind of organic content we'll create, which influencers we'll partner with, and what IRL events I'll want us to be a part of. Those insights are way more valuable to me than hearing someone try to remember where they heard about us. - Then, we have some winning results from a brand who just INCREASED their prices - Tweet of the week is really tactical Meta advice - A JUICY Marketer's Anonymous from a guy who's about to quit his job | 15m 00s | ||||||
| 2/25/26 | Influencer? I barely know her | On this episode: - I started an influencer program with $8k that grew into a multi 7-figure channel - A new form of ad iteration made me sell out of my hero SKU way too fast - Ad fatigue is self inflicted? - Headline tests continue to move the needle - Marketers need to understand WHY performance is bad, then they can work on how to improve it | 23m 27s | ||||||
| 2/18/26 | How to Market To Happy & Sad Customers | Most of the time I buy whiskey, I'm happy, celebrating, I'm buying to have a good night with friends or to mark a milestone. But on rare occasions... I buy whiskey when I'm sad, angry, frustrated, stress, I buy it as a coping mechanism... Now that's not good, and it's been a long time since I've done it so don't worry about me, lol... but it exposes a flaw in the way that most of the industry is talking about customer personas. How can one buyer (Me) have two completely opposite mindsets (happy or angry), that lead me to the exact same purchase decision (11 shots of Jack Daniel's)? And if that's possible, why aren't we trying to market to all those different motivators? In this episode, I break down how I use Valence & Intensity zones in my performance copywriting process to reach new areas of our market that some of our top ads just can't resonate with. Watch this episode, then ask Claude to analyze and indentify the valence & intensity zones of your top performing ads, and re-write new variations in the other zones. You'll reach buyers who are in-market for your product, that don't resonate with the tone of your current ads at all. | 15m 12s | ||||||
| 2/13/26 | $75k from one campaign? In this economy? | I've been at a brand where an average SMS campaign would do $8k in revenue. Then we sent one that did $40k in 30 minutes. I've ran an email account that made $6k on a normal daily email campaign. Then we sent one that did $75k in 24 hours. And no, those campaigns weren't sent on black friday, they weren't even sent in Q4. In this episode, I show you how you can take a moment that your customers care about, or can relate to, bring them into your world to experience it with you, and have a day that makes your entire month. I also award a tweet of the week award, share the results of a split test that DID NOT GO MY WAY, and attempt to answer the question, "How do you get away from discounting all the time?" (the first few seconds of audio are a little sketchy then by 10 seconds it's good) | 22m 15s | ||||||
| 2/4/26 | Doubling Ad Spend While Increasing aMER | In this episode I break down how we just: - Doubled ad spend while increasing aMER - How doing less allows you to do more - Testing CTA button text - Resending emails to non openers (the easiest, lowest hanging revenue in all of ecom) - & what to do what your top selling product starts to plateau | 23m 01s | ||||||
| 1/28/26 | Addition by Extraction: w/ Kyle Yeoman From Groove | President of GrooveLife.com joins the show to talk about building lean & efficient marketing teams. | 25m 03s | ||||||
| 1/21/26 | Keys To Scaling Past $10mm/year | Learn how I've helped 7 figure brands break through the 8 fig/yr mark, here some anonymous questions from marketers early in their careers, and check out a recent DISCOUNT test I ran with suprising results, my Tweet of the Week, and a JUICY Tactical Tip for SuperBowl Sunday. | 25m 40s | ||||||
| 1/20/26 | Starting a Brand From Zero | Dive into how I started a new brand, and how I think about creative strategy & split testing when nobody has ever heard of you. | 19m 53s | ||||||
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Chart history for Tactical & Practical
Peaked at #4 in New Zealand, top 10 in 1 of 2 tracked markets, currently #4 in New Zealand.
| Market | Genre | Peak | Current | Trend |
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| New Zealand | — | #4 | #4 | — |
| New Zealand | — | #114 | #114 | — |
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2 placements across 1 market.
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2 placements across 1 market.