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Taxpayer Talk: Professor Elizabeth Rata on the decline of education in New Zealand
Apr 23, 2026
1h 02m 03s
Taxpayer Talk: Oliver Hartwich on restoring democratic control of the Public Service
Apr 13, 2026
39m 25s
Taxpayer Talk: Marian Tupy on why the world Is better than you think
Apr 2, 2026
38m 25s
Taxpayer Talk: David Farrar on the methodology and influence of political polling
Mar 19, 2026
37m 14s
Taxpayer Talk: Roger Partridge on selling public assets to build better infrastructure
Mar 4, 2026
43m 14s
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| 4/23/26 | Taxpayer Talk: Professor Elizabeth Rata on the decline of education in New Zealand | Why did New Zealand’s education system "turn to custard" in 1971? In this episode of Taxpayer Talk, host Peter Williams sits down with Professor Elizabeth Rata to explore how the nation moved from a world-class, knowledge-rich curriculum to one dominated by "social constructivism" and "learnification”. Elizabeth also lifts the lid on how the rejection of liberalism and nation-building has failed several generations of Kiwi children, and the challenge of turning around the "oil tanker" of mode... | 1h 02m 03s | ||||||
| 4/13/26 | Taxpayer Talk: Oliver Hartwich on restoring democratic control of the Public Service | In this episode of Taxpayer Talk, Peter Williams sits down with Oliver Hartwich, Executive Director of the New Zealand Initiative, to discuss why he believes the country’s public service is "fundamentally broken" and incompatible with implementing good policy. Oliver explains how the 1988 reforms inadvertently created a state where department heads are more beholden to the Public Service Commissioner than their own ministers, and how the bureaucracy can subvert political will. Drawing o... | 39m 25s | ||||||
| 4/2/26 | Taxpayer Talk: Marian Tupy on why the world Is better than you think | What if the world is actually getting better — and we just can't see it? In this episode, host Jordan Williams sits down with Marian Tupy, senior fellow at the Cato Institute and founder of HumanProgress.org, to challenge the doom and gloom dominating today's headlines. Drawing on his books Super Abundance and 10 Global Trends Every Smart Person Should Know, Tupy makes a data-driven case that life expectancy, poverty, child mortality, and war are all trending in the right direction — and expl... | 38m 25s | ||||||
| 3/19/26 | Taxpayer Talk: David Farrar on the methodology and influence of political polling | Our latest Taxpayers’ Union–Curia poll sent Wellington into a frenzy at the beginning of March. But in this week’s Taxpayer Talk, Peter Williams sits down with Curia founder - and Taxpayers’ Union co-founder - David Farrar to separate the signal from the spin. Are polls actually driving political decisions, or just measuring them? And why do politicians pay attention, even when they ignore the results? David lifts the lid on how polling really works (spoiler: no, they’re not ringing every Kiw... | 37m 14s | ||||||
| 3/4/26 | Taxpayer Talk: Roger Partridge on selling public assets to build better infrastructure | The New Zealand Initiative Chair Roger Partridge joins Taxpayer Talk with Peter Williams to discuss a new report arguing New Zealand could unlock more than $24 billion for essential infrastructure by recycling mature Crown-owned commercial assets. Roger explains how redirecting capital tied up in government-owned companies such as Air New Zealand, Kiwibank and the mixed ownership electricity generators could help fund hospitals, schools, roads and water systems — without raising taxes or incr... | 43m 14s | ||||||
| 2/16/26 | Taxpayer Talk: Federated Farmers’ Mark Hooper on the Flawed Replacements of the Resource Management Act | Federated Farmers National Board member Mark Hooper joins Taxpayer Talk with Peter Williams to critique the government’s "deeply flawed" replacement of the Resource Management Act with the Natural Environment Bill and the Planning Bill. Mark walks Peter through why the new framework fails to deliver a faster, cheaper, better system, arguing that a predicted 46% reduction in consents is insufficient and warning that farmers could face double the red tape through a combination of complex farm p... | 45m 53s | ||||||
| 1/24/26 | Taxpayer Talk: The Colourful Life of Cartoonist Garrick Tremain | In November 2025, Garrick Tremain joined Peter Williams to discuss his colourful life as one of New Zealand’s finest and most influential political cartoonists of the contemporary era Support the show | 48m 07s | ||||||
| 12/18/25 | Taxpayer Talk: David Cohen, author of Jacinda: The Untold Story | Author David Cohen joins Jordan Williams for a no-holds-barred chat about his new book, Jacinda: The Untold Story. Billed as a refreshingly un-mushy take on Jacinda Ardern’s premiership, David drew on hundreds of interviews to cut through the PR gloss and media fawning. His verdict? Ardern was a talented brand manager, powered by what he calls a “missionary zeal” — but that communications-first style came at a cost, with big policies like KiwiBuild never properly stress-tested. Support the show | 46m 36s | ||||||
| 11/5/25 | Taxpayer Talk: Jamie Beaton on how to fix New Zealand's failing education system | Entrepreneur and Crimson Education founder Jamie Beaton joins Taxpayer Talk to discuss his extensive academic career, including his 11 degrees, and to offer a strong policy critique advocating for replacing the NCEA high school qualification with a more rigorous, globally standardized system. Support the show | 50m 42s | ||||||
| 10/23/25 | Taxpayer Talk: Rowan Pike on NZ's and Aussie's illicit tobacco boom | This week on Taxpayer Talk, Jordan is joined by international consultant Rowan Pike, a former Australian Federal Police officer and Customs and Border Force expert, to unpack the explosive rise of illicit tobacco in Australia. With around half of all cigarettes now sourced from the black market, Rowan reveals how sky-high excise taxes have fuelled organised crime, gang violence, and a thriving underground trade. Drawing on his frontline experience, he explains how well-intentioned policies ... | 23m 54s | ||||||
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| 10/15/25 | Taxpayer Talk: Cameron Luxton on the Gene Technology Bill | This week on Taxpayer Talk, Peter Williams is joined by ACT MP Cameron Luxton for a wide-ranging discussion on the Government’s new Gene Technology Bill and what it means for innovation and regulation in New Zealand. Cameron shares his perspective on the Bill’s Māori advisory committee and how ACT approached its position. Peter and Cameron also discuss the Bill he has drafted to improve transparency and accountability in local government by banning unelected voting members on council committe... | 30m 35s | ||||||
| 9/26/25 | Taxpayer Talk: Roger Partridge on Unscrambling the Ministerial Maze | This week on Taxpayer Talk, Peter Williams is joined by Roger Partridge from the New Zealand Initiative to unpack his new report: Unscrambling Government: Less Confusion, More Efficiency. Right now, New Zealand has 81 ministerial portfolios, 28 ministers, and 43 departments. That’s three times as many portfolios and nearly twice as many departments as comparable countries. No wonder things feel messy. Roger argues this sprawling Cabinet structure makes it harder to know who’s accountable, pus... | 29m 32s | ||||||
| 9/16/25 | Taxpayer Talk: Nick Stewart on Rates Driving Inflation | This week on Taxpayer Talk, Peter Williams sits down with financial advisor and Stewart Group founder Nick Stewart to tackle a question too many councils would rather avoid: are skyrocketing rates making inflation worse? Nick explains how council spending flows through to households and businesses, pushing up the cost of living just as families are already struggling. Rates might look like a local issue, but the ripple effects are felt nationwide. If you’ve ever wondered why your grocery bill... | 32m 44s | ||||||
| 9/5/25 | Taxpayer Talk: John O'Connell on Rates Caps, Death Tax and the MPs' Expenses Scandal | This week on Taxpayer Talk, James sits down with John O'Connell, Chief Executive of the UK TaxPayers' Alliance. John and James dig into some big issues, to see what New Zealand can learn from the UK's (many) mistakes. Rates caps, death tax, and John's role in exposing the infamous MPs' expenses scandal, which forced every British MP to open their expense reports to public scrutiny. Six MPs were jailed, and hundreds more were caught out. Support the show | 47m 18s | ||||||
| 8/28/25 | Taxpayer Talk: Nick Leggett on Infrastructure and Local Government | Building anything in New Zealand has no shortage of challenges. Whether it be soaring costs, reels of red tape, or problems with supplying labour, our choked infrastructure pipeline deeply affects this country's economy and quality of life. CEO for Infrastructure New Zealand, Nick Leggett, joins Peter Williams for a deep dive into how can overcome these challenges so we can build faster, more efficiently, and more affordably. Support the show | 38m 54s | ||||||
| 8/17/25 | Taxpayer Talk: Mayor Andrew Tripe on the Lowest Average Rates Increases in the Country | Rates across the country have soared, many into the double-digits. But while most councils point fingers and find excuses, Mayor for Whanganui Andrew Tripe has kept his average rates increase as low 2.2 percent – the lowest in the country this year. Mayor Tripe joins Peter Williams for a discussion on how this was achieved, and the work behind getting his Council focused on the basics, while keeping up with important infrastructure and services, and paying down debt. Support the show | 34m 30s | ||||||
| 6/11/25 | Taxpayer Talk: Sir Bill English on the Future of Superannuation and the Public Service | It’s seven years since Sir Bill English left politics but the former Prime Minister and long serving Finance Minister is still a keen follower of the political landscape and how the economic outlook for the country can be improved. In conversation with Peter Williams for the latest Taxpayer Talk podcast, Sir Bill maintains that the political battle over National Superannuation has been won and governments will have to pay a universal pension to every senior citizen for the foreseeable f... | 45m 19s | ||||||
| 6/5/25 | Taxpayer Talk: Casey Costello on her first 18 months in Parliament | This week on Taxpayer Talk, Jordan sat down with former Chair of the Taxpayers' Union and now Minister Casey Costello, to talk through the highs and lows of her first 18 months in Parliament. In the podcast, we unpack her ministerial briefs, including cracking down on organised crime, the Government’s approach to anti-smoking measures, and her priorities in health – plus why she thinks New Zealanders are looking beyond the headlines. Support the show | 53m 46s | ||||||
| 5/20/25 | Taxpayer Talk: The Taxpayers’ Union's Levi Gibbs on a Path to Surplus | “The rainy day has come. We believe it is crucial that the Government cut debt now.” Those words from Taxpayer’s Union researcher Levi Gibbs talking about his new paper “A Path to Surplus” released just a few days before Budget 2025. Levi Gibbs joined host Peter Williams on a special edition of the Taxpayer Talk podcast to discuss the in-depth paper which analyses both the debt and the annual budget deficit, and offers solutions to reduce both. Support the show | 30m 32s | ||||||
| 5/13/25 | Taxpayer Talk: David Baker on Exposing Inefficiencies in our Building Sector | This week Peter Williams is joined by social media sensation, David Baker, from Rapid QS. David is a quantity surveyor by trade, specialising in pricing residential buildings—and has spent the last year blowing the whistle on why so many public housing and infrastructure projects cost so much. But price is just the start—David also raising growing concern with agencies being unable to explain why the costs are so high, and has stated a wide-ranging social media campaign to expose these costs... | 46m 34s | ||||||
| 4/24/25 | Taxpayer Talk: Hon Ruth Richardson on Budget 2025 | This week on Taxpayer Talk, Peter sat down with Ruth Richardson, Minister of Finance during the National-Bolger Government, and catalyst of major economic reforms during the 90s. One of New Zealand's most respected Ministers of Finance, Ruth remains a deep thinker on the country’s dangerous fiscal position and how we can extract ourselves from it. With this year’s Budget only a few weeks away, she sets a path back to fiscal sustainability and tackles universal superannuation, the health syste... | 50m 49s | ||||||
| 4/11/25 | Taxpayer Talk: The Taxpayers’ Union’s Levi Gibbs on New Zealand’s climate costs and the pathway back to surplus | The Taxpayer’s Union popular podcast Taxpayer Talk returns with host Peter Williams and the Taxpayer’s Union Climate and Fiscal Policy analyst Levi Gibbs talking about New Zealand’s commitments (or lack of them) under the Paris Accord and how the Government can close the forecast 17 billion dollar budget deficit. Hear Levi explain why the Treasury forecast of New Zealand’s $20 billion plus commitment to buy carbon credits may not come to pass. Then he suggests ways to better manage the New Ze... | 43m 45s | ||||||
| 4/3/25 | Taxpayer Talk: Eric Crampton on the Government’s Supermarket Shakeups | This week on Taxpayer Talk Jordan sat down with the NZ Initiative's Chief Economist, Dr Eric Crampton on Nicola Willis' announcement on Sunday about possible splitting up of the super market industry. In the podcast, we unpack what's on the table, the risks, and what Dr Crampton argues is the real reason New Zealand lacks competition at the checkout. Support the show | 32m 09s | ||||||
| 10/30/24 | Taxpayer Talk : Nick Smith joins Jordan Williams to talk local government | On this week's episode of Taxpayer Talk, Jordan sat down to talk with current Nelson Mayor and former National Party Minister, Nick Smith. First elected as a Member of Parliament in 1990, Nick Smith would remain an MP for over three decades. Nick would serve across a number of portfolios, including as Minister of Education, Local Government, and Housing. He was elected as Nelson's Mayor in 2022, and now chairs LGNZ's Electoral Reform Group. With Wellington and Hastings councils in the news ov... | 51m 50s | ||||||
| 10/10/24 | Taxpayer Talk : Simon Court joins Jordan Williams to talk RMA reform | On this week's Taxpayer Talk, ACT MP Simon Court - Parliamentary Under-Secretary to the Minister for Infrastructure and Minister Responsible for RMA reform - joins Jordan Williams to talk about the Government's plans for RMA reform. If you like what we do, sign up for updates at taxpayers.org.nz Support the show | 51m 58s | ||||||
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