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Episode 51: "He Definitely Has Some Big Feelings": Small Dogs and Reactivity with Bernadette Tow of Hershey the Weenie
Oct 17, 2023
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Episode 50: “I Started To See We Were Making Progress": Trick Training for Confidence with Kaylin of Luna the Trick Dog
Aug 9, 2023
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Episode 49: "Dogs Tug On Our Shirt, Too": The Importance of Puppy Socialization with Marge Rogers and Eileen Anderson
Jun 2, 2023
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Episode 48: “It’s Amazing What Those Little Dogs Can Do”: Talking Small Dogs with Vivian Pineda
Jan 27, 2023
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Episode 47: “It’s All About The People”: A Trainer’s Journey with Vivian Pineda
Jan 12, 2023
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| 10/17/23 | Episode 51: "He Definitely Has Some Big Feelings": Small Dogs and Reactivity with Bernadette Tow of Hershey the Weenie | Bernadette Tow had always wanted a dachshund but didn't grow up with dogs. Her husband surprised her about five years ago with the option of bringing home a puppy, and raising Hershey inspired her to learn more about dog training and behavior. After a career switch, she earned a Diploma in Canine Behaviour Science and Technology (Dip. CBST) from CASI (Companion Animal Sciences Institute), and is studying with the Academy for Dog Trainers. She is a co-trainer with Raintown Dog Training in Vancouver, BC, Canada and teaches puppy, basic manners, and tricks classes. She also works part-time at Petite Paws Playcare, which is a small dog daycare. We discussed how she ended up with Hershey, handling reactivity in an apartment, and why she switched careers. Follow Bernadette and Hershey Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/Hersheytheweenie Telltail Dog Training is a positive reinforcement dog training business based in Little Rock, Arkansas, offering private lessons, group classes, and training walks. Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/telltaildog Twitter: https://twitter.com/telltaildog Podcast: https://telltaildog.fireside.fm/ (or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts) Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/Special Guest: Bernadette Tow. | — | ||||||
| 8/9/23 | Episode 50: “I Started To See We Were Making Progress": Trick Training for Confidence with Kaylin of Luna the Trick Dog | Kaylin wasn't looking for a small dog, but when she met Luna, she knew she was the one. They started off with more compulsion-based training, and Luna was having a hard time. When they discovered positive reinforcement, Luna started thriving. Now, they are pupfluencers, showing off their skills under Luna the Trick Dog on Instagram, where they share trick tutorials and enrichment ideas to help other dog parents have the best life with their dogs. Kaylin is also a Certified Trick Dog Instructor, Do More With Your Dog evaluator, and middle school teacher. Follow Kaylin and Luna Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lunathetrickdog/ Telltail Dog Training is a positive reinforcement dog training business based in Little Rock, Arkansas, offering private lessons, group classes, and training walks. Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/telltaildog Twitter: https://twitter.com/telltaildog Podcast: https://telltaildog.fireside.fm/ (or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts) Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/Special Guest: Kaylin. | — | ||||||
| 6/2/23 | Episode 49: "Dogs Tug On Our Shirt, Too": The Importance of Puppy Socialization with Marge Rogers and Eileen Anderson | Marge Rogers and Eileen Anderson co-wrote the book, Puppy Socialization, a wonderful resource that includes chapters on body language, video resources, and how to socialize without access to other dogs. They came on the Telltail Dog Training podcast to share how they met, why they wrote the book, and the feedback they've gotten so far. Puppy Socialization Website: https://puppysocialization.com Follow Marge Rogers Website: https://rewardedbehaviorcontinues.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RewardedBehaviorContinues YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MargeRogersCPDTKA Follow Eileen Anderson Website: https://eileenanddogs.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Eileenanddogs/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eileenanddogs/ Telltail Dog Training is a positive reinforcement dog training business based in Little Rock, Arkansas, offering private lessons, group classes, and training walks. Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/telltaildog Twitter: https://twitter.com/telltaildog Podcast: https://telltaildog.fireside.fm/ (or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts) Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/Special Guests: Eileen Anderson and Marge Rogers. | — | ||||||
| 1/27/23 | Episode 48: “It’s Amazing What Those Little Dogs Can Do”: Talking Small Dogs with Vivian Pineda | Join certified dog trainers Elizabeth Silverstein and Vivian Pineda as they discuss working with small dogs, how to consider what small dog you'd like to bring home, and consent handling. Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/ Follow Vivian Personal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chihuahuas_and_micheladas/ Business Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/impetusanimaltraining/Special Guest: Vivian Pineda. | — | ||||||
| 1/12/23 | Episode 47: “It’s All About The People”: A Trainer’s Journey with Vivian Pineda | Join certified dog trainers Elizabeth Silverstein and Vivian Pineda as they discuss her training journey, how she narrowed her training focus, and what advice she has for folks who want to become dog trainers. Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/ Follow Vivian Personal Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chihuahuas_and_micheladas/ Business Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/impetusanimaltraining/Special Guest: Vivian Pineda. | — | ||||||
| 12/9/22 | Episode 46: “I Wanted To Find A Way To Make Their Lives Better”: Workshopping Shy Dogs with Alicia Harantschuk | Join certified trainers Alicia Harantshuck and Elizabeth Silverstein of Telltail Dog Training to discuss her approach to shy dogs, the workshops she's developed, and the article she wrote for the IAABC journal on handling shy dogs in a group class setting. The article: https://iaabcjournal.org/shy-dog-class/ Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/ Follow Alicia Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/phillyhotdogs/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/alicia.harantschukSpecial Guest: Alicia Harantshuck. | — | ||||||
| 11/20/22 | Episode 45: “I Wasn’t Expecting All Of That”: Caring for People and Dogs with Kassidi Jones of Ginger’s Naps | Kassidi Jones, the human behind the popular gingers_naps Instagram account, joins Elizabeth Silverstein of Telltail Dog Training to share her experience going viral, how she navigates the negativity and demands, how her studies impact her content, and the amount of joy that Ginger brings to her life and how well they compliment each other. She is a published poet and a PhD candidate at Yale University. She has gone viral with her content that covers everything from average dog owner questions, like where to find the best spots to bathe your dog, to in-depth research on dog industry topics like breed specific legislation. Follow Ginger and Kassidi Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gingers_naps/ Some of the posts, including those on breed specific legislation: https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck9RgsBJlEN/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CkMG6KipdeP/ https://www.instagram.com/p/Ci_UCQKJLNo/ https://www.instagram.com/p/Cc6CM6SpXkB/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CZkqH_ip5Xg/ https://www.instagram.com/gingers_naps/ Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/Special Guest: Kassidi Jones . | — | ||||||
| 9/30/22 | Episode 44: "Sometimes I Call Them Perma-Toddlers": Managing Multiple Dogs with Renee Harding | Renee Harding is back sharing her experience handling her three pups, Bob, Diesel, and Bonnie. She shares their daily schedule, the importance of bonding over nap time, and what she wishes she knew before adopting two young dogs within a few days of each other. Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/Special Guest: Renee Harding. | — | ||||||
| 9/2/22 | Episode 43: "Get To Know Your Individual Dogs": Managing Multiple Dogs with Meaghan Karney | Meaghan Karney joins Elizabeth to discuss fostering and multiple dog integration. She has three pups of her own, Moose, Izzy, & Stella, and fosters Emma, a pup available for adoption through Arkansans Assisting Homeless Animals and the Little Pink Shelter. Meaghan is always happy to share her fostering experience and wants to get the word out how fostering saves lives. Arkansas Assisting Homeless Animals - https://www.aaharescue.com/ Little Pink Shelter out of Connecticut - https://www.pinkshelter.com/ Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/Special Guest: Meaghan Karney. | — | ||||||
| 8/18/22 | Episode 42: "Have Individual Time": Managing Multiple Dogs with Kate Hosier | Kate Hosier is back to discuss all things Tom, Huck, and Pepper Potts in the first installment focused on managing multiple dogs. Kate shares how she integrated Pepper in with the boys, some mishaps that happened along the way, and how she makes sure they get their individual time and training with her. Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/ Follow Kate Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.ohosiers/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pepperpottomusSpecial Guest: Kate Hosier. | — | ||||||
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| 7/29/22 | Episode 41: “My Awareness Changed”: Client Spotlight on Bob, Diesel, and Bonnie | Renee Harding joins Elizabeth Silverstein of Telltail Dog Training to discuss how she ended up with two extra dogs when she was looking for just one, the struggles she's had with integration and training, and how working with Telltail Dog Training has helped communication between her, her human family, and all three of her pups. Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: telltaildogtraining.comSpecial Guest: Renee Harding. | — | ||||||
| 6/11/22 | Episode 40: "What Are My Options?": Responsible Rehoming with Cathy Madson | Certified Trainer Cathy Madson of Preventive Vet joins Elizabeth Silverstein of Telltail Dog Training to discuss responsible rehoming. Transcript and additional resources: https://telltaildogtraining.com/rehoming-cathy-madson/ Rehoming Article from Preventive Vet: https://www.preventivevet.com/dogs/rehoming-a-dog Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/ Follow Preventive Vet Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/preventivevet/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PreventiveVet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PreventiveVet Website: https://www.preventivevet.com/ Check Out Pupstanding Academy Website: https://www.pupstandingacademy.com/ Use my affiliate link and discount code for 25% off: TELLTAIL25 at https://www.pupstandingacademy.com/p/virtual-dog-training-private-sessions?affcode=693540_bbbxqghg. MUST enter the code at checkout.Special Guest: Cathy Madson. | — | ||||||
| 6/2/22 | Episode 39: "Little Frenchies Can Actually be Pretty Ferocious": Client Spotlight on Lily and Lola | Jenny McCallum joins Elizabeth Silverstein of Telltail Dog Training to discuss why she wanted a French bulldog, what happened when she brought home a second one, why she sought out training, and what goals she'd like to work on with Lily and Lola. Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: telltaildogtraining.comSpecial Guest: Jenny McCallum. | — | ||||||
| 5/27/22 | Episode 38: "Teach Your Dog How to Have Fun Engaging With You": Training Your Own Service Dog with Darby Peachman | Darby Peachman started balanced training with her service dog, Saturn. When a traumatic event caused Saturn to "wash", or have to leave his duties in assistance, Darby started to learn more about body language and training and transitioned into positive reinforcement. She educates on body language and service dog training through her Instagram, MyAnimalPlanets. Transcript coming soon! Follow Darby and Saturn and Nepture Instagram: www.instagram.com/myanimalplanets/ Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: telltaildogtraining.com/Special Guest: Darby Peachman. | — | ||||||
| 4/26/22 | Episode 37: "We'd Love to Have You": Therapy Animal Registration with Katie Kasten of Pet Partners | Katie Kasten is the Strategic Partnerships Coordinator for Pet Partners. She and her daughter, Kennedy, have volunteered with Pet Partners for over seven years, and Katie became staff with Pet Partners three years ago. Pet Partners has a proclamation from Pulaski County proclaiming April 30 as National Therapy Animal Day. Follow Pet Partners Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/petpartners/ Website: https://petpartners.org/ Central Arkansas Pet Partners Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/579459839351675 Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/Special Guest: Katie Kasten. | — | ||||||
| 4/16/22 | Episode 36: "Hugely Rewarding and Just a Lot of Fun": Training Your Own Assistance Dog with Hallie Wells | Hallie Wells, the owner of Lumos Dog Training and Behavior Services, is a service dog and pet behavior expert who started her career as the Puppy Program Manager for a nationally accredited service and guide dog school. In addition to being the owner and head trainer at Lumos, she is a pet trainer with Peach on a Leash with a focus on the VIP Development program and behavior modification. These positions have led her to offer online service dog training services and behavior consultations for dog owners and service dog users beyond the Atlanta area. She is a certified professional dog trainer through The Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers with a focus on providing modern, science-based training. Hallie joined Elizabeth Silverstein of Telltail Dog Training to discuss the difference between therapy, guide, service, and emotional support animals, what goes into training assistance dogs and how she helps people who need assistance dogs prepare their dogs for work. Follow Hallie Wells Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lumosdogtraining/ Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/people/Lumos-Dog-Training-and-Behavior-Services/100069016225518/ Website: https://www.lumosdogtraining.com/ Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/Special Guest: Hallie Wells. | — | ||||||
| 4/8/22 | Episode 35: “Reach Out to the Community that's Available to You”: Becoming A Service Dog Trainer with Hallie Wells | Hallie Wells, the owner of Lumos Dog Training and Behavior Services, is a service dog and pet behavior expert who started her career as the Puppy Program Manager for a nationally accredited service and guide dog school. In addition to being the owner and head trainer at Lumos, she is a pet trainer with Peach on a Leash with a focus on the VIP Development program and behavior modification. These positions have led her to offer online service dog training services and behavior consultations for dog owners and service dog users beyond the Atlanta area. She is a certified professional dog trainer through The Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers with a focus on providing modern, science-based training. Hallie joined Elizabeth Silverstein of Telltail Dog Training to discuss how she became a guide dog trainer and why she started Lumos Dog Training. Follow Hallie Wells Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lumosdogtraining/ Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/people/Lumos-Dog-Training-and-Behavior-Services/100069016225518/ Website: https://www.lumosdogtraining.com/ Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/Special Guest: Hallie Wells. | — | ||||||
| 2/25/22 | Episode 34: “Knowledge is Key”: Starting a Dog Training Business and Discussing Pitbull Misconceptions with Masina Kakese | Masina Kakese’s love of dogs began at a young age, surrounded by chickens, cats, and Pugs on three acres of land. She began a professional career with animals through dog walking, and she decided to learn more about behavior and training. She has also fostered, volunteered at local shelters, and worked in kennels and at a doggy daycare. She has continued her education as she launched her own business, Q & A Dog Training, and she’s currently enrolled in The Academy for Dog Trainers. She joined Elizabeth Silverstein of Telltail Dog Training to discuss why she started her business, Q & A Dog Training, how she ended up with Q, her 5-year-old Black Lab-Pit Mix, and how she navigates an unregulated industry. Follow Masina Kakese Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/q.a.dogtraining/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/QA-Dog-Training-105436751417962 Website: https://www.qandadogtraining.com/ Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/Special Guest: Masina Kakese. | — | ||||||
| 12/17/21 | Episode 33: "Love Has No Age Limit": Managing Older Rescue Pups and Children with Karen B. London, PhD | Karen B. London, Ph.D., is a Certified Applied Animal Behaviorist and Certified Professional Dog Trainer. She specializes in working with dogs with serious behavioral issues, including aggression. Karen writes the animal column for the Arizona Daily Sun and is an Adjunct Professor in the Department of Biological Sciences at Northern Arizona University. She joined Elizabeth Silverstein of Telltail Dog Training to discuss her 2011 book, Love Has No Age Limit, her more recently published Treat Everyone Like a Dog, her training journey, and how she manages and advises kids and dogs and their families, especially with older rescue pups. Follow Karen London, PhD Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karen.london.dog.behavior/ The Wildest: https://www.thewildest.com/dog-behavior/does-your-dog-have-greeting-disorder The Bark: https://thebark.com/category/author/karen-b-london Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/ | — | ||||||
| 12/9/21 | Episode 32: "Recalls Save Lives": Puppies and Pitbulls with Damelle A. Morgan Sr. | Karen Pryor Academy Certified Training Partner Damelle A. Morgan Sr. of Tip Top Breedz Dog Training joins Elizabeth Silverstein of Telltail Dog Training to share his training journey, his top tips for keeping a puppy safe, the importance of teaching kids and dogs to respect one another, why he loves bully breeds, and the chance TV commercial that got him on the path to becoming a dog trainer. Follow Tip Top Breedz Dog Training Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiptopbreedzdogtraining/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedogtrainer86/ Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/Special Guest: Damelle A. Morgan Sr. . | — | ||||||
| 11/11/21 | Episode 31: "Everybody Deserves to Have Access": Behavior and Training with Miranda Hitchcock | Certified Trainer Miranda Hitchcock of Every Dog Austin joins Elizabeth Silverstein of Telltail Dog Training to share her training journey, why she believes everyone deserves access to quality, safe dog training, how she began her nonprofit, kids and dogs and reducing bite risk, behavior vs. training, and so much more. Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/ Follow Every Dog Austin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everydogaustin Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EveryDogAustin/ Website: https://www.everydogaustin.org/Special Guest: Miranda Hitchcock. | — | ||||||
| 10/20/21 | Episode 30: You Need to Teach Both the Dog and the Child Boundaries: Babies and Dogs with Lauren Haley | It's time to discuss babies and dogs! This is part one of a series. Trigger warning: child loss is discussed. Board-certified behavior analyst and a long-time dog owner Lauren Haley joins Elizabeth Silverstein of Telltail Dog Training to discuss getting her pitbull, MJ, ready for her baby, and the management she learned and implemented. Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/ Follow MJ Watson Barker Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mjwatsonbarker/ Philly Unleashed Article: https://phillyunleashed.com/mj-barker/Special Guest: Lauren Haley. | — | ||||||
| 9/24/21 | Episode 29: There's No Reason You Can't Train Your Dog At Home: Uluru Virtual Dog Training with Nicole Skeehan | Certified Trainer Nicole Skeehan of Philly Unleashed and Uluru Virtual Dog Training joins Elizabeth Silverstein of Telltail Dog Training to discuss how she became a trainer and how she developed Uluru Dog Training -- along with Uluru's story, the dog that inspired it all. Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/ Follow Philly Unleashed Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/phillyunleashed/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PhillyUnleashed/ Website: https://phillyunleashed.com/ Follow Uluru Virtual Dog Training Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ulurutraining/ Website: https://www.ulurutraining.com/Special Guest: Nicole Larocco-Skeehan. | — | ||||||
| 9/3/21 | Episode 28: Go One Step At A Time: Resource Guarding Prevention and Management in Puppies with Cathy Madson | Certified Trainer Cathy Madson of Preventive Vet joins Elizabeth Silverstein of Telltail Dog Training to discuss how to prevent and manage resource guarding in puppies. Preventive Vet Resource Guarding Article: https://www.preventivevet.com/dogs/resource-guarding-in-dogs Chirag Patel Drop It: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndTiVOCNY4M Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/ Follow Preventive Vet Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/preventivevet/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PreventiveVet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PreventiveVet Website: https://www.preventivevet.com/Special Guest: Cathy Madson. | — | ||||||
| 8/26/21 | Episode 27: It Was Just Perfect: A Trainer's Journey with Cathy Madson | Certified Trainer Cathy Madson of Preventive Vet joins Elizabeth Silverstein of Telltail Dog Training to discuss how she became a dog trainer, why Preventive Vet created a position just for her, and how teen dogs can be even more challenging than puppies. Preventive Vet Resource Guarding Article: https://www.preventivevet.com/dogs/resource-guarding-in-dogs Follow Telltail Dog Instagram: instagram.com/telltaildog/ Facebook: facebook.com/telltaildog/ Twitter: twitter.com/telltaildog Website: https://telltaildogtraining.com/ Follow Preventive Vet Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/preventivevet/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PreventiveVet Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PreventiveVet Website: https://www.preventivevet.com/Special Guest: Cathy Madson. | — | ||||||
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