Lenny Ravich: Drag It or Dance It Like an Optimist

Lenny Ravich: Drag It or Dance It Like an Optimist

From That Optimism Man Victor Perton by Victor Perton

April 28, 2026 · 33 min

About this episode

Victor Perton speaks with Lenny Ravich about optimism, laughter, and personal development.

In this joyful episode of That Optimism Man, Victor Perton speaks with Lenny Ravich in Israel, author of Everlasting Optimism: 9 Principles for Success, Happiness and Powerful Relationships. Lenny is an optimism teacher, humourist, keynote speaker, educator and director of the Gestalt Institute of Tel Aviv. His work brings together Gestalt awareness, humour, creativity and laughter. At 90, Lenny is a living example of his message: greet people warmly, laugh before you feel like laughing, choose love over fear, and learn to dance with life rather than drag it. Victor and Lenny explore what it means to be optimistic in serious times, how laughter changes how we feel and relate, why positive self-talk matters, and how small acts of warmth can lift both giver and receiver. For more reflections, research, practical habits and podcast updates, visit centreforoptimism.com.

People in this episode

Host: Victor Perton

Guest: Lenny Ravich

Topics covered

  • optimism
  • laughter
  • self-talk
  • relationships
  • personal development

Keywords

  • optimism
  • laughter
  • self-talk
  • relationships
  • personal development
  • Gestalt awareness
  • humour

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Gestalt Institute of Tel Aviv

Books & works: Everlasting Optimism: 9 Principles for Success, Happiness and Powerful Relationships

Places: Israel

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