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Mark "Trunk" Kirschenbaum - Owner of Hypoxic
May 4, 2026
1h 01m 14s
Jens Gronemeyer: CEO of Alti-2 and Formation Skydiver
Apr 26, 2026
1h 04m 33s
Wendy "Kiwi" Smith - Hall of Fame Skydiver & Aerial Cinematographer
Apr 19, 2026
1h 08m 02s
Jim Cowan - Hall of Fame Skydiver and Flight-1 Instructor
Apr 12, 2026
1h 35m 55s
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Apr 6, 2026
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 5/4/26 | Mark "Trunk" Kirschenbaum - Owner of Hypoxic✨ | skydivingphotography+3 | Mark "Trunk" Kirschenbaum | Hypeye D ProHypoxic | — | skydivingphotography+5 | — | 1h 01m 14s | |
| 4/26/26 |  Jens Gronemeyer: CEO of Alti-2 and Formation Skydiver | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode Jens Gronemeyer is the President & CEO of Alti-2 Technologies. A computer engineer, entrepreneur, active skydiver, experienced jump pilot, and former drop zone operator, Jens made his first skydive in Höxter, Germany in 1997 and has since logged more than 8,900 jumps. Before acquiring Alti Two in 2021, he built and sold successful technology companies in Europe. He competes in 4-way, 8-way, and 16-way formation skydiving and brings a rare perspecti... | 1h 04m 33s | ||||||
| 4/19/26 |  Wendy "Kiwi" Smith - Hall of Fame Skydiver & Aerial Cinematographer | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode Wendy Kiwi Smith is one of skydiving's most decorated figures - an aerial cinematographer, athlete, coach, and safety leader with over 23,000 jumps, 10 world records, three Guinness World Records, and an Emmy Award. In 2025, she was inducted into the International Skydiving Hall of Fame. Topics covered: Growing up on a farm in rural New Zealand and what shaped her fearlessnessHow she stumbled into skydiving and never looked backBuilding a career as an ... | 1h 08m 02s | ||||||
| 4/12/26 |  Jim Cowan - Hall of Fame Skydiver and Flight-1 Instructor | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode This is a must-listen episode. Jim Cowan's passion for skydiving is infectious, and his storytelling will have you hanging on every word. A second-generation skydiver from St. Louis who started packing parachutes at age 10, Jim recounts jumping into a Cardinals game at 18 and being interviewed by Jack Buck - then taking Jack on a tandem jump 20 years later. He also talks about forming Quantum Leap with his brother and best friend, winning the World Cha... | 1h 35m 55s | ||||||
| 4/6/26 |  Pete Allum - International Skydiving Ambassador & Flight-1 Instructor | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode Pete Allum (36,000+ jumps, 19+ British national titles, four Italian national championships, 2022 Hall of Fame inductee) sits down for a candid look at four decades in skydiving. He reflects on finding his identity on the drop zone as a teenager, how he transformed crippling competition anxiety into a refined mental performance system, and his ongoing work continuing Vince Reffet's UPT Mutant legacy. Pete also speaks with rare honesty about... | 59m 47s | ||||||
| 3/30/26 |  Jackie Smith: The First Woman to Join the British Army’s Red Devils | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode Jackie Smith is one of the most decorated and pioneering figures in the history of competitive skydiving. She was the first woman to earn the Red Beret of the British Army's Red Devils parachute display team, the first female member of any full-time military parachute team in the world, joining the ranks in February 1972. A multi-time British National Champion in both style and accuracy and 8-way formation skydiving, Jackie's defining competitive... | 1h 23m 24s | ||||||
| 3/23/26 |  Joe Jennings - Skydiving Aerial Cinematographer | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode Guest: Joe Jennings Joe Jennings is one of the most accomplished aerial cinematographers in the history of skydiving. Alongside sky surfer Rob Harris, Joe won gold at the 1995 Extreme Games and captured two World Championship titles in sky surfing. He later became a sought-after stunt coordinator and aerial DP, working on more than 40 television commercials — including Pepsi's famous Goose ad, the top-rated commercial of Super Bowl 1998 — and major mot... | 1h 17m 01s | ||||||
| 3/16/26 |  Kyle Salvato: DZO, Skydive City, Z-Hills | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode About This Episode Kyle Salvato shares the remarkable journey from maritime engineer to co-owner of Skydive City in Zephyrhills, Florida. This episode explores what it takes to revitalize one of skydiving's most iconic drop zones while honoring its deep legacy connected to names like Jerry Bird. Kyle brings a unique perspective with over 9,000 jumps, A&P mechanic credentials, commercial pilot licenses with 4,000+ flight hours, and hands-on experie... | 1h 05m 05s | ||||||
| 3/9/26 |  Doug Barron - Behind the Scenes of the 250-Way State Record Attempts | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode About This Episode Doug Barron returns to share the incredible story behind organizing the 2025 All American Big Way - a 250-way skydiving record attempt at Skydive Chicago that ran simultaneously with a 200-way vertical record. This is a masterclass in event logistics, leadership under pressure, and pushing the boundaries of what's possible in skydiving. Resources Mentioned 📺 250-way Documentary - 25-min film by Anthony Armandiraz 🎙️ Episode 19 - Doug... | 1h 04m 51s | ||||||
| 6/2/25 |  George Tang - Skydive Thailand DZO and Flight-1 Instructor | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode Presented by SSK Industries, CYPRES, Free Fall Films, SKYCRU and Burble. 📲 STAY CONNECTED Website: The 20 Minute Call Instagram: @20MinuteCall Facebook: /20MinuteCall 💙 SUPPORT THE SHOW Love the podcast? Join our Patreon community for early access, bonus content, and exclusive perks. → patreon.com/The20minutecallPodcast ⭐ LEAVE A REVIEW Your 5-star review helps us reach more skydivers like you. Apple Podcasts: [direct-link] Spotify: [direct-link] 🎧 NEV... | 53m 58s | ||||||
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| 5/26/25 |  Helmut Cloth - Inventor of the CYPRES Automatic Activation Device | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode Helmut Cloth is a German engineer and entrepreneur whose groundbreaking contributions have forever changed skydiving safety. After taking up the sport in 1972, Helmut became an active participant in European relative work (RW) record attempts. But a tragic accident in 1986—when a close friend died without deploying either canopy—sparked a mission that would shape the future of parachuting. Motivated to prevent similar losses, Helmut spent four and a ha... | 40m 46s | ||||||
| 5/19/25 |  Alethia Austin: Skydiving Organizer & Editor, Skydive Mag | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode Alethia Austin is a skydiving coach whose influence reaches far beyond the dropzone. Known for her calm presence, thoughtful leadership, and global impact, Alethia is the founder of LSD—Level, Slot, Dock—a sold-out series of skill camps hosted around the world. Her approach to coaching blends technical precision with mindfulness, energy management, and personal growth. Raised in a small town in southern Oregon, Alethia set out on her own at just 17, ca... | 1h 01m 44s | ||||||
| 5/12/25 | Jon Devore | Captain of the Red Bull Air Force (2024) | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode My guest today has truly lived a life that transcends even the wildest dreams of a successful career in skydiving. With over 500 BASE jumps and 17,000 skydives, Jon Devore is a highly respected camera flyer, BASE jumper, wingsuiter, world champion free flyer, and stunt performer. His work has been featured in major films such as 2015’s Point Break, Iron Man 3, Transformers: Dark of the Moon, Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning, and Ad Astra. Jon also se... | 1h 16m 23s | ||||||
| 4/28/25 | Ian Bobo - Co Founder of Flight-1 and PD Factory Team | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode With over 28,000 skydives to his name, Ian Bobo is one of the most accomplished and versatile skydivers in the history of the sport. A true multi-discipline athlete, Ian is one of the rare individuals to win world championships in both Formation Skydiving and Canopy Piloting—a testament to his precision, adaptability, and mastery of flight. Ian is the co-founder of two pioneering initiatives in the skydiving world: the PD Factory Team and Flight-1, the... | 1h 09m 59s | ||||||
| 4/21/25 | Pancho Campo - Skydiver and Entrepreneur | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode Pancho Campo’s life story is one of global reach and bold reinvention. Born in Santiago, Chile, Pancho began his career in professional tennis, serving as the captain and manager of the Chilean Olympic Tennis Team at the 1992 Barcelona Olympic Games. He also held leadership roles in the Qatar Tennis and Squash Federation and coached on the ATP Tour. After stepping away from tennis, Pancho transitioned into the world of international events. He founded ... | 1h 07m 21s | ||||||
| 4/7/25 |  Jay Stokes - World Record Holder for Most Jumps in 24 Hours | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode In this episode, we welcome Jay Stokes—a legendary figure in the skydiving world whose accomplishments have left a lasting mark on both military and civilian skydiving. Jay holds the Guinness World Record for the most parachute jumps in a 24-hour period, completing an incredible 640 jumps on September 8–9, 2006. This extraordinary feat took place at Greensburg Municipal Airport in Indiana and required precision, endurance, and a massive team effort, wi... | 1h 03m 54s | ||||||
| 3/31/25 |  Greg "Miff" Smith - DZO South Australia Skydiving | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode In this episode, I’m joined by Greg “Miff” Smith—a true pioneer in Australian skydiving. With nearly five decades in the sport and more than 12,000 jumps to his name, Miff has been a driving force behind the growth and evolution of skydiving in South Australia and beyond. Since making his first jump in 1977, Greg has become one of the country’s most respected Chief Instructors. In 1986, alongside Gavin Northsworthy and Kevin Taylor, he helped introduce... | 1h 11m 10s | ||||||
| 3/24/25 |  Chazi Rutz - Skydive Arizona LO and World Record Holder | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode In this episode, we sit down with Chazi Rutz—an accomplished skydiver, coach, and competitor whose career is as dynamic as it is inspiring. Based in Eloy, Arizona, Chazi has completed over 10,700 jumps and earned silver and bronze medals at the USPA Nationals in freestyle and freeflying. She has contributed to 13 Vertical World Records and numerous state and world records in both head-down and head-up formations. Beyond competition, Chazi is a respecte... | 59m 10s | ||||||
| 3/17/25 |  Chris Wagner - Former US Army Golden Knight & Former Member of Army Special Forces | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode In this episode, we welcome Chris Wagner—an accomplished skydiver, competitor, and leader in the sport. A former member of the U.S. Army Parachute Team, the Golden Knights, Chris has helped shape the evolution of Formation Skydiving, earning multiple gold medals at the World Skydiving Championships and setting a world record in 8-way Formation Skydiving with 23 points. Beyond skydiving, Chris served 25 years with the Army Special Forces and continues t... | 1h 03m 58s | ||||||
| 3/10/25 |  Mike Gruwell: Owner, Chutingstar Skydiving Superstore | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode Mike Gruwell is a skydiving entrepreneur, master rigger, and industry leader whose journey in the sport began with a single jump in 1995. What started as a passion quickly turned into a career, leading him to become an FAA Master Rigger, AFF Instructor, Tandem Instructor, and 4-way competitor. In 1999, he founded ChutingStar, which began as a small rigging loft and grew into one of the most recognized skydiving gear suppliers in the world. Over the yea... | 1h 01m 14s | ||||||
| 3/3/25 |  Ashley Marquardt | Skydive Dubai Pilot, Wingsuiter and Freeflyer | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode Ashley Marquardt is a pilot, skydiver, and adventurer whose journey in aviation has been nothing short of remarkable. In just five years since earning her commercial pilot’s license, she went from flying a Cessna 172 at Skydive Cross Keys to piloting a Twin Otter at Skydive Dubai. Along the way, she served as the main pilot at Cross Keys and flew critical cargo across the Pacific from Saipan to Guam. Her passion for aviation runs deep—growing up on a m... | 56m 25s | ||||||
| 2/24/25 |  Stephen "Hatz" Hatzistefandis | DZO Pegasus Skydive Center | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode Stephen "Hatz" Hatzistefandis is a true adventurer and a standout personality in the world of skydiving. With over 3,500 jumps—including more than 2,000 tandems—Hatz has built a reputation for orchestrating skydives in some of the most breathtaking locations on the planet. From the Great Pyramids of Egypt to the Great Blue Hole in Belize, his expertise in planning and logistics has taken skydiving to new heights. Beyond his accomplishments in the sky, ... | 1h 06m 11s | ||||||
| 2/17/25 |  Anthony "The Kid" Zerbonia | World Champion Wingsuit Pilot | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode Anthony “The Kid” Zerbonia is one of the most respected wingsuit pilots in the sport, with over 3,300 skydives—more than 2,300 of them dedicated to wingsuit flying. A two-time national champion in acrobatic wingsuit flying, Anthony has represented the U.S. on the world stage, earning podium finishes at national and international competitions, including the Acrobatic World Cup and USPA Nationals. Beyond competition, Anthony is a coach, tandem and AFF in... | 55m 48s | ||||||
| 2/10/25 |  Pablito Perazzoli - Master Rigger & Skydiver | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode With over two decades in skydiving and parachute rigging, Pablito Perazzoli has built a reputation for precision and expertise. Originally from Argentina, his journey began with an unexpected introduction to sewing during a high school exchange in New Zealand—an invaluable skill that shaped his career. Pablito has completed more than 6,400 jumps and holds multiple instructor ratings, including Tandem Examiner and AFF Instructor. As a Master Parachute R... | 1h 21m 22s | ||||||
| 2/3/25 |  Ossie Khan: Australian Skydiver and BASE Jumper | Tell Us What You Thought Of This Episode With over 10,000 jumps and more than three decades in the sport, Ossie Khan has made a lasting impact on skydiving and BASE jumping. As the owner of Melbourne Skydive Centre, he has trained countless skydivers and contributed as a safety management speaker and tourism consultant, shaping adventure tourism in Australia and beyond. His expertise extends internationally as a Tourism and AeroSports Consultant, working through the Indonesia-Australia Compre... | 1h 15m 17s | ||||||
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