
Francesco Cipollone - Agentic AI Manifesto
From The Application Security Podcast by Chris Romeo and Robert Hurlbut
September 23, 2025 · 33 min · Season 12 · Episode 18
About this episode
Francesco Cipollone discusses the differences between true AI agents and chatbots, the use of multiple LLMs, and the responsible implementation of AI.
Francesco Cipollone, the CEO of Phoenix Security, shares his extensive experience in AI and security, discussing the crucial difference between true AI agents and glorified chatbots. Learn why Phoenix Security utilizes six different LLMs instead of a single super agent. Understand the sobering economics behind AI implementation and the importance of adopting AI responsibly. Get practical advice on integrating AI agents to enhance, not replace, human capabilities, while touching on the Agentic...
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Hosts: Chris Romeo, Robert Hurlbut
Guest: Francesco Cipollone
Topics covered
- AI
- security
- LLMs
- human capabilities
- responsible AI
Keywords
- AI agents
- chatbots
- LLMs
- AI implementation
- human enhancement
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Organizations: Phoenix Security
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