The Art Career

This week, we’re revisiting a conversation with Carroll Dunham recorded at his home in Connecticut.Over the last four decades, Dunham has established himself as one of the most important painters working today, with major exhibitions at institutions including the New Museum, Museum Ludwig, Kunsthalle Düsseldorf, and the National Museum in Oslo, among many others.What has stayed with us the most about this conversation is that, over the years, The Art Career has often spoken with women artists about motherhood and the ways family life intersects with creative practice. This was one of the first times Emily had the opportunity to explore many of those same questions through the lens of a male artist.Alongside a discussion of painting and career longevity, Emily and Carroll spoke about fatherhood, marriage, partnership, and the realities of building a creative life over decades.A thoughtful conversation that feels just as relevant today as when it was first recorded.Carroll Dunham lives and works in New York and Connecticut. His most recent solo exhibitions include National Museum, Oslo, 2023; Kunsthalle, Dusseldorf, and Sprengel Museum, Hannover, 2019–2020. His work has been the subject of numerous solo exhibitions at international institutions including Museum Ludwig, Cologne; Millesgården, Stockholm; Drammens Museum, Drammen; a mid-career retrospective was held at the New Museum of Contemporary Art, New York, in 2002. Dunham has also been included in notable group exhibitions including multiple Whitney Biennials and SITE Santa Fe; and at institutions including MAMCO, Geneva; the Museum of Modern Art, New York; Museu Picasso, Barcelona; and The Institute of Contemporary Art, BostonThis episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BetterHelp.com/TAC ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠today and get 10% off your first month.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠theartcareer.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@theartcareer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Podcast host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@emilymcelwreath_art⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Music: Chase JohnsonEditing: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@benjamin.galloway

In this episode of The Art Career, Emily sits down with the incomparable Melissa Auf der Maur — musician, visual artist, filmmaker, and co-founder of the multidisciplinary arts center Basilica Hudson.Known for her role as the bass player in iconic 1990s rock bands Hole and The Smashing Pumpkins, Melissa’s journey spans far beyond the stage. From self-producing solo albums to launching a nationally recognized cultural venue in Hudson, NY, Melissa has spent the past two decades creating space — literally and metaphorically — for artists to gather, experiment, and thrive.This conversation covers the full spectrum of her creative life: music, motherhood, mythology, and the radical act of sustaining a long-term, independent practice. We also talk about her upcoming literary memoir, which will explore her time inside the legendary 1990s rock scene — set to be released in 2026 by Grand Central Publishing / Hachette Books.We discuss:• Touring the world with Hole and The Smashing Pumpkins• Creating Basilica Hudson as a haven for artists and community• Her deep roots in visual art and photography• Storytelling, place-making, and the role of women in music history• Writing her forthcoming memoir on the 90s rock eraFollow Melissa: @xmadmxLearn more about Basilica Hudson: basilicahudson.orgFollow Emily: @emilymcelwreath_artFollow The Art Career: @theartcareerMelissa Auf der Maur was born and raised in Montreal, Canada where she received a fine arts education focused on music and photography. Auf der Maur is most prominently known for herrole as the bass player and band member in two Grammy Nominated and Winning 90’s rock bands, Hole and The Smashing Pumpkins. At the turn of the millennium, after multiple world tours she set off on her own to self-produce two solo albums, released on Capitol Records andRoadRunner / Warner Brother Records. In 2010 she co-founded the multidisciplinary art center Basilica Hudson in Hudson, NY with filmmaker Tony Stone, which welcomes up to 20,000 yearly visitors to genre-pushing music festivals, large-scale marketplace events, film screenings, and public installations. In addition to her work as an arts and music curator at Basilica Hudson, Auf der Maur has produced films that have been presented at Sundance Film Festival, Berlin Film Festival, New Directors New Films, and released by NEON and Magnolia Pictures. Her photography work has been published in National Geographic, American Photo, SPIN and BUST Magazines, and exhibited at the Montreal Museum of Fine Arts and Sotheby's NY, among other venues. Her literary memoir, focusing on her time in the iconic 90’s rock scene, is due to be released in 2026 by Grand Central / Hachettes Books.

Jemma Rose Brown is an artist, strategist and curator of cultural programs raised & based in NYC. Her approach is shaped by a decade+ career in podcasts and the audio industry. Jemma is the General Manager of The Signal Awards and Co-Creator of On Air Fest, the premiere event for audio storytelling. She is the Co-Founder of Cosmophage. Previously, she was the Director of creative agency work x work and a Producer at The Moth. Her projects have been covered widely in Vanity Fair, Wired, Forbes, Rolling Stone & more. Jemma sits on the Advisory Committee of UnionDocs Center for Documentary Art. Alongside her professional work, Jemma’s art practice is in incessant pursuit of intimacy: reaching across the asymptote of human experience to create momentary acts of connection. Jemma utilizes memoir, staged meals and performance to test the boundaries between self and other. Links: ⁠⁠⁠theartcareer.com⁠⁠⁠Follow Cosmophage Collective: https://www.instagram.com/cosmophage/?hl=enFollow Jemma: https://www.instagram.com/_needsmoresalt/Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠@theartcareer⁠⁠⁠Host: ⁠⁠⁠@emilymcelwreath_art⁠⁠⁠Production + Creative Direction ⁠⁠⁠@soniaruscoe⁠⁠⁠Editing: ⁠⁠⁠@benjamin.galloway⁠⁠⁠ Join our community for exclusive updates, artist resources, and behind-the-scenes content! Sign up at ⁠⁠⁠theartcareer.com⁠⁠⁠ Never miss an episode! Subscribe & leave us a review on ⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠

In this episode of The Art Career, Emily travels to Galerie Lelong & Co in Chelsea to sit down with gallerist Mary Sabbatino. Mary Sabbatino is Vice President and Partner of Galerie Lelong & Co., New York. She was appointed director of the New York location of Galerie Lelong & Co. in 1991 and became a gallery partner in 2007. In 2021, she was awarded the prestigious Chevalier de L’Ordre des Arts et des Lettres (Knight of the Order of Arts and Letters) from the Government of France. Championing a diverse roster of contemporary artists from throughout the world, the gallery has pioneered the community both in presenting a balanced roster of male and female artists, and artists from the Global South. Contributing to the overarching contemporary art scene, she served on the boards of ArtTable and the Executive Board of the Art Dealers’ Association of America, during which she initiated and co-authored the ADAA’s first code of ethics. Sabbatino served on the Selection Committee for Art Basel Miami Beach (2013-2020), the Art Basel Joint Selection Committee, and is a founding member of the Council for the Elizabeth Sackler Center for Feminist Art at the Brooklyn Museum, New York. In 2020, along with colleagues from international galleries, she initiated the platforms Galleries Curate and SOUTH SOUTH. In addition to fostering the careers and legacies of the gallery’s artists, Sabbatino co-curated Art from Brazil in New York (1995) which presented the first solo exhibitions of the region’s most vital figures—Waltercio Caldas, Cildo Meireles, Hélio Oiticica, Mira Schendel, and Tunga—and curated Juan Downey: Video Installations and Drawings (1995), at the Museo Bellas Artes, Santiago, Chile. The gallery is proud to have represented leading contemporary artists and estates for over twenty years, including Petah Coyne, Andy Goldsworthy, Jane Hammond, Alfredo Jaar, Cildo Meireles, the Estate of Ana Mendieta, Jaume Plensa, Kate Shepherd, the Estate of Nancy Spero, Ursula von Rydingsvard, and Krzysztof Wodiczko.About Galerie Lelong & CoSince 1991, Galerie Lelong & Co., New York, has championed a diverse roster of contemporary artists from throughout the world. Led by Mary Sabbatino, Vice President and Partner, the gallery has pioneered the community both in presenting a balanced roster of male and female artists, and artists from the Global South. The gallery’s programming is noted for its political acuity and museum-quality exhibitions that include contemporary sculpture and installations, as well as its work with artists to help develop large-scale public art commissions beyond the gallery’s walls. In tandem with the gallery’s artists who present works that examine the human condition and collective consciousness, Galerie Lelong & Co. demonstrates its commitment to social justice and good citizenship through charitable initiatives and collaborations. Galerie Lelong & Co. is a member of the Art Dealers’ Association of America, the most esteemed organization of art galleries in the United States.Free Resource for Artists!Want expert guidance on building your art career? Download Navigating the Art World: A Comprehensive Guide for Artists—a free resource covering essential industry insights, practical tips, and more. Get it here:⁠⁠ Download Now⁠⁠Links: ⁠⁠theartcareer.com⁠⁠Follow Galerie Lelong & Co: https://www.instagram.com/galerielelong/?hl=enFollow Mary Sabbatino: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/mary_sabbatino/?hl=enFollow us: ⁠⁠@theartcareer⁠⁠Host: ⁠⁠@emilymcelwreath_art⁠⁠Production + Creative Direction ⁠⁠@soniaruscoe⁠⁠Editing: ⁠⁠@benjamin.galloway⁠⁠ Join our community for exclusive updates, artist resources, and behind-the-scenes content! Sign up at ⁠⁠theartcareer.com⁠⁠ Never miss an episode! Subscribe & leave us a review on ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠

On season 7, Episode 3 of The Art Career Podcast, Emily sits down with fashion photograher and director Brianna Capozzi in her Brooklyn, NY apartment.First published in 2014, Brianna Capozzi has been working for over a decade to make distinctive images that have contributed to a movement of contemporary female-led fashion photography. Capozzi’s work places less emphasis on an ideal and instead uplifts the raw, fierce and playful that exists innately and uniquely in each subject. Her work demonstrates a fervent interest in the power, versatility, and inherent creative force of the female form.Advertising: Adidas, Agent Provocateur, Alexander Wang, Bally, Bottega Veneta, Burberry, Calvin Klein, Carolina Herrera, Cartier, Chloe, Chopard, Deisel, DKNY, Eckhaus Latta, Fenty, Frankie’s Bikinis, GAP, Gucci, Jonathan Simkhai, Khaite, Marc Jacobs, Maryam Nassir Zadeh, Nike, Nordstrom, Pinko, Puma, Rare Beauty, Stella McCartney, Victoria’s Secret, Skims, Zara.Editorial: All In, American Vogue, British Vogue, Beauty Papers, Blau, D Republica, Dazed & Confused, Double, Interview, M Le Monde, Marfa, Myth, Pop, Re-Edition, Vogue Italia.Published: Well Behaved Women (Idea Book, 2018), Sisters (Idea Book, 2024)Free Resource for Artists!Want expert guidance on building your art career? Download Navigating the Art World: A Comprehensive Guide for Artists—a free resource covering essential industry insights, practical tips, and more. Get it here:⁠⁠ Download Now⁠⁠Links:https://www.instagram.com/briannalcapozzi/?hl=enhttps://rep-ltd.com/artists/brianna-capozzi ⁠⁠theartcareer.com⁠⁠ Follow us: ⁠⁠@theartcareer⁠⁠ Host: ⁠⁠@emilymcelwreath_art⁠⁠ Production + Creative Direction ⁠⁠@soniaruscoe⁠⁠ Editing: ⁠⁠@benjamin.galloway⁠⁠ Join our community for exclusive updates, artist resources, and behind-the-scenes content! Sign up at ⁠⁠theartcareer.com⁠⁠ Never miss an episode! Subscribe & leave us a review on ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠Spotify⁠

We’re launching Season 7 of The Art Career Podcast with a special collaboration, Art21 x The Art Career: Behind the Lens—a series dedicated to the curators and filmmakers who create the magic behind Art21’s iconic documentaries and publications. Art21 is the world’s leading source to learn directly from the artists of our time. In this season’s premiere, host Emily McElwreath sits down with curator Jurrell Lewis to explore Artists and the Unknown, a compelling new book from Art21 that delves into the mysteries, curiosities, and uncertainties that drive contemporary art. From the supernatural to the speculative, Artists and the Unknown captures how artists navigate the limits of human knowledge, embracing the unknown as a space for creativity and transformation. Jurrell Lewis brings his curatorial insight to this conversation, offering a deep dive into the book’s themes, featured artists, and the ways in which art helps us interpret the unexplainable. Artists and the Unknown is available HERE from Art21. About Behind the Lens This season, we’re spotlighting the often-unsung visionaries—curators and filmmakers—who shape the stories behind today’s most influential contemporary artists. Behind the Lens offers a rare glimpse into how Art21’s groundbreaking films and publications come to life, bridging the gap between artists and audiences. About Art21 Art21 is a celebrated nonprofit organization dedicated to inspiring a more creative world through the works and words of contemporary artists. Through their award-winning documentary series, educational programs, and digital resources, Art21 brings audiences closer to today’s leading artists and their processes. Learn more at art21.org. Free Resource for Artists! Want expert guidance on building your art career? Download Navigating the Art World: A Comprehensive Guide for Artists—a free resource covering essential industry insights, practical tips, and more. Get it here: Download Now Links: theartcareer.com Art21 – Art21 Follow us: @theartcareer Host: @emilymcelwreath_art Production + Creative Direction @soniaruscoe Editing: @benjamin.galloway Join our community for exclusive updates, artist resources, and behind-the-scenes content! Sign up at theartcareer.com Never miss an episode! Subscribe & leave us a review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify

This holiday season, the team at The Art Career Podcast is collecting art supplies for children and adults served by the New York City Department of Homeless Services (DHS). While food and shelter are understandably the primary focus for the Department of Homeless Services, the team at The Art Career has been in direct conversation with them, and they’ve expressed a pressing need for art supplies. We will be delivering all donated supplies before the holidays, ensuring that your contributions reach the individuals and families who need them most. As we all know, art has the power to heal, inspire, and transform lives. It offers a vital outlet for self-expression, creativity, and connection, particularly for individuals and families navigating challenging times. By providing access to art materials, we aim to nurture creativity, encourage emotional well-being, and bring moments of joy and possibility to those who need it most. Your generosity will directly help foster a sense of empowerment and hope within these communities.Whether you donate supplies or help spread the word, every effort makes a difference. TO DONATE: https://www.myregistry.com/giftlist/dhsartsupplies