The Both& Podcast w/ Benny Perez

In this powerful episode of Both&, Pastor Benny Perez sits down with Rabbi Jason to unpack identity, freedom, and the deeper meaning of what Jesus actually paid for on the cross.From a supernatural encounter in heaven to a life of discovering Jesus through the Hebrew Scriptures, Rabbi Jason shares how many people are living stuck, not because God hasn’t moved, but because they’re still thinking like they’re in “Egypt.”If you’ve ever felt stuck, limited, or defined by your past, this episode will challenge and free you.📖 About Rabbi Jason:Rabbi Jason Sobel is a Messianic Jewish rabbi, author, and speaker known for revealing the deep connections between the Old and New Testaments. Raised in a Jewish home in New Jersey, his spiritual journey led him to faith in Jesus (Yeshua), shaping his life’s mission to help people understand the Bible through its Hebrew roots.He is the founder of Fusion Global and serves as a spiritual advisor to The Chosen. Rabbi Jason holds degrees in Jewish Studies and Intercultural Studies and received his rabbinic ordination in 2005.He is the author of several bestselling books, including Mysteries of the Messiah and The God of the Way, and his latest release, Transformed by the Messiah. Through teaching, media, and global tours, he equips believers to walk in a deeper understanding of Scripture and their identity in God.

Culture is loud—but truth is eternal.In this powerful conversation, Tim Timberlake and Benny Perez dive deep into why this generation is rejecting fake Christianity and craving truth—even when it hurts.They unpack:- Why mislabeling Jesus limits your life- The difference between Jesus as Teacher vs Lord- Why truth must confront, not just comfort- The danger of chasing acceptance over God’s approvalHow culture is attacking the foundation of faithThis isn’t just a conversation, it’s a wake-up call.About Pastor Tim TImberlake:Tim Timberlake serves as the Senior Pastor of Celebration Church. He’s a graduate of the Pistis School of Ministry in Detroit, Michigan. Pastor Tim is a gifted communicator and teacher who has the ability to communicate to people from all walks of life. His sense of humor, combined with his in-depth Bible teaching, gives the listener and reader the tools to transform their lives from the inside out. He takes pleasure in the small things, is an avid sports fan, and a popular thought leader. Pastor Tim lives in Jacksonville, FL with his wife Jen and son Maxwell. The Timberlake’s feel most alive when they are pouring back into others, and they seek to glorify God through their lives and family.

What does it take to carry both excellence AND the Holy Spirit — without losing your heart in the process?In this powerful episode of the Both& Podcast, Pastor Benny sits down with Pastor Travis Greene for one of the most honest leadership conversations we’ve had yet.They dive into the tension between structure and Spirit… but the conversation goes deeper than expected, straight into betrayal, bitterness, submission, accountability, and finishing well in ministry.This isn’t surface-level leadership talk. This is heart surgery.“Your heart is a house. Bitterness gives someone a room — and locks you out.”If you are a pastor, worship leader, creative, entrepreneur, or believer navigating leadership pressure, church hurt, correction, or betrayal — this conversation will challenge and strengthen you.Ministry flows from the heart.Creativity flows from the heart.Longevity flows from the heart.Guard it.About Pastor Travis Greene:Travis is a Grammy-nominated gospel recording artist, pastor, husband, and father. He and his wife, Dr. Jackie Greene (author, dentist, and mentor), co-pastor Forward City Church in Columbia, South Carolina. Through music and ministry, Travis is passionate about unifying the Body of Christ and exposing people to the transformative love of Jesus. When he’s not traveling or leading, he’s spending time with his wife and their three boys, Jace, Josh, and Judah.

What happens when you believe God is real, but struggle to feel Him?In this powerful podcast conversation, Pastor Jamie Bates of Church 1132 shares how a deep dive into Scripture transformed her faith, healed a season of doubt, and revealed the Bible as a living, layered narrative, not just a rulebook.From feeling out of place in church culture, to wrestling with disappointment, to discovering Jesus through the story behind the story, this conversation is for thinkers, feelers, and anyone who’s ever wondered if something was wrong with them for not “feeling it” the way others do.If you’ve ever felt disconnected, disappointed, or unsure how to approach the Word of God, this conversation will challenge and encourage you.About Pastor Jamie Bates:Pastor Jamie Bates is a pastor, leader, and communicator with a heart for people and a passion for seeing lives transformed by Jesus. Alongside her husband, Pastor Dustin, she pastors Church Eleven32, helping lead the church with wisdom, authenticity, and compassion.Jamie is deeply committed to building healthy families, empowering women, and creating spaces where people can encounter God and walk in freedom. She and Dustin live in the DFW area with their two sons, Jude and Genesis.

What does it look like to live a Both& faith in a world obsessed with extremes?In this episode of Both&, Pastor Benny Perez sits down with guest speaker Jeremy Johnson for an honest and challenging conversation about faithfulness, calling, obedience, and navigating ambition without losing your soul. Together, they unpack the tension between trusting God fully while still stewarding opportunities wisely.This conversation speaks directly to leaders, creatives, pastors, and believers who feel the pull between what God has asked them to do now and what they hope He’ll do next. It’s a reminder that true Kingdom impact starts with obedience, not visibility.About Pastor Jeremy:Pastor Jeremy Johnson is the Lead Pastor of Fearless Church in downtown Los Angeles, alongside his wife Christy and their children. Known for his contagious passion and global ministry, Jeremy carries a heart for revival, seeing culture transformed through the power and love of Jesus. He is also the founder of Ammunition Conference, a gathering birthed to see dreamers rise and live fearlessly in Christ.

In today’s episode of the Both& Podcast, Pastor Benny Perez sits down with Pastor Dustin Bates for a powerful conversation on hearing the voice of God, spiritual encounters, spiritual dehydration, and how to stay full of God’s presence in a culture that’s getting darker and drier.About Pastor Dustin Bates:With over two decades of experience in ministry, leadership, and business, Pastor Dustin Bates is the lead pastor of Church Eleven32, the founder of Dream Center Dallas, and hosts the leadership podcast 'Win Every Time'.He and his wife Jamie reside in the DFW area with their two sons, Jude and Genesis.Dustin has a passion for the local church, equipping the next generation, and seeing city transformation by meeting both spiritual and practical needs.

What if everything you believed about wealth and faith was wrong?In this powerful conversation, Pastor Benny Perez and Myron Golden dives deep into God’s original design for wealth, faith, and hearing His voice. Discover why abundance is part of God’s nature—and how trusting what He says matters more than what you see.

Both& brings honest conversations on family, faith, leadership, and life. In the first episode, I sit down with my wife, Wendy, to talk about marriage, ministry, buisness, and living in the tension of “Both&”