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#70 - Duncan MacPherson, Founder and CEO of Pareto Systems: How Advisors Build Businesses That Scale Beyond Themselves (04/20/26)
Apr 20, 2026
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#69 - Julia Carlson, Founder and CEO of Financial Freedom Wealth Management Group: Building a Scalable Advisory Business With Purpose (recorded 04/16/26)
Apr 17, 2026
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#68 - Sam Ro, Founder of TKer: Why Markets Climb the Wall of Worry and How Advisors Can Help Clients Stay Invested (recorded 04/01/25)
Apr 1, 2026
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#67 - Dave Mazza, Chief Executive Officer, Roundhill Investments: ETF Innovation, Portfolio Construction, and the Changing Role of Diversification (recorded 03/25/26)
Mar 25, 2026
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#66 - Dan Gallagher, Technology Columnist, Heard on the Street, The Wall Street Journal: AI Infrastructure, Software Disruption, and the Next Phase of Tech (recorded 03/20/26)
Mar 20, 2026
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| 4/20/26 | ![]() #70 - Duncan MacPherson, Founder and CEO of Pareto Systems: How Advisors Build Businesses That Scale Beyond Themselves (04/20/26) | In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jimmy Lee sits down with Duncan MacPherson, founder and CEO of Pareto Systems, for a practical and thought-provoking conversation about what it really takes to build a great advisory business. Duncan shares how he got into coaching financial advisors almost by accident, after giving a few simple business development ideas to advisors that produced results. From there, his work evolved into a decades-long mission to help advisors think differently about client experience, business structure, and practice management. The conversation centers on a theme Duncan has taught for years: advisory businesses should be designed to serve the advisor’s life, not consume it. He explains why so many advisors stay trapped in the technical side of the business, why that creates risk for enterprise value, and why the most successful firms build around process, team, and relationship depth rather than individual heroics. Jimmy and Duncan also dive into AI, advisor evolution, enterprise value, referrals, professional contrast, and what separates firms that grow deliberately from those that simply drift. This episode is especially relevant for advisors who want to move from running a book of business to leading a scalable, valuable enterprise.What you'll learn:Why the best advisory firms stop acting like books of business and start operating like true businessesHow advisors can “grow down, zoom out, and level up” to create more freedom and enterprise valueWhy the advisor of the future must combine high tech with high touchHow AI can help firms document process, standardize service, and build intellectual property fasterWhy client acquisition should begin with existing clients and their networks before outside marketingThe difference between professional contrast and professional scarcity, and why both matterWhy being the client’s first call matters more than product selection aloneHow advisors can make themselves more fee worthy by becoming a personal CFO and value added sounding boardWhy the firms that embrace change early are better positioned for scale, retention, and successionChapters:01:45 How Duncan got into coaching financial advisors03:16 How the advisor role has evolved over the last few decades05:11 Why some advisors crave freedom while others crave being needed06:57 What it means to run a business instead of just managing a book08:05 How change in industry structure affects the advisor role10:41 Why asset management is not enough to define advisor value13:02 The importance of language, messaging, and professional contrast16:22 Why AI will elevate some advisors and eliminate others19:49 Real world ways advisors can use AI to document process and scale23:20 What the best advisors have in common30:29 What separates advisors who struggle from advisors who grow34:20 Why panoramic fiduciary thinking creates deeper trust39:02 How advisors should think about client acquisition today45:40 Why existing clients are the best source of future growth51:28 What the advisory firm of the future looks like54:05 Professional contrast, scarcity, and why sameness is dangerous58:09 How Pareto Systems helps advisors improve practice management and execution01:06 Final thoughts on growth, community, and continuous improvement GuestsDuncan MacPherson, Founder and CEO, Pareto Systems SpeakersJimmy Lee, CEO, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 4/17/26 | ![]() #69 - Julia Carlson, Founder and CEO of Financial Freedom Wealth Management Group: Building a Scalable Advisory Business With Purpose (recorded 04/16/26) | Jimmy Lee sits down with Julia Carlson, founder and CEO of Financial Freedom Wealth Management Group, for a conversation about growth, leadership, and building an advisory firm that is designed to serve clients at scale. Julia shares how her business grew from approximately $25 million in assets after moving to LPL Financial in 2009 to more than $600 million today. She discusses the lessons that shaped that journey, including the importance of hiring early, trusting a team, and stepping out of the way so others can lead. A pivotal part of that evolution came after a serious accident involving her daughter, which forced Julia to spend time away from the office and revealed that her team was capable of much more than she had allowed. The conversation also explores how Julia built a broader ecosystem around her advisory firm, including a tax business, a business consulting practice, coaching programs, retreats, and a growing personal brand. Throughout the discussion, she emphasizes that sustainable growth comes from knowing the numbers, building the right team, creating repeatable processes, and staying connected to a larger purpose. What You’ll LearnHow Julia Carlson scaled an advisory business from approximately $25 million to more than $600 million in assetsWhy building a team based model changed the trajectory of her firmWhy understanding profitability by household can improve decision makingHow tax services and business consulting can deepen client relationshipsWhat role social media and personal branding can play in business developmentWhy coaching and mastermind communities can accelerate business growthHow Julia thinks about purpose, philanthropy, and long-term impact through her “one billion for good” visionChapters00:00 Introduction to Julia Carlson and her businesses02:43 The early years and learning she could not do it all herself04:13 Her daughter’s accident and the turning point in leadership07:10 Expanding the team and creating a business that can run without her08:09 Freedom Tax and building a more comprehensive planning model10:12 The women’s mastermind, retreats, and coaching entrepreneurs12:20 Financial planning, service models, and household profitability16:19 Why knowing firm economics matters for growth18:22 How tax services support retention and lead generation21:20 Technology, planning tools, and AI adoption23:49 Client appreciation events, workshops, and business development25:55 The origin of “one billion for good”30:10 The value of coaching and learning from peers34:20 What is next for the business and where Julia wants to focus37:44 Social media, authenticity, and attracting the right clients40:02 Mistakes made along the way and lessons for advisors48:52 AI, vibe coding, and the future of client experience50:50 Differentiation, team culture, and building a values based firm GuestJulia Carlson, Founder and CEO, Financial Freedom Wealth Management Group HostJimmy Lee, Founder & CEO, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 4/1/26 | ![]() #68 - Sam Ro, Founder of TKer: Why Markets Climb the Wall of Worry and How Advisors Can Help Clients Stay Invested (recorded 04/01/25) | In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jimmy Lee and Talley Leger sit down with Sam Ro, founder of Tker and an award-winning financial newsletter writer, for a wide-ranging conversation on market behavior, investor psychology, and the importance of long-term perspective. Sam explains why his work focuses less on daily market noise and more on framing events in the context of longer cycles. He discusses how financial media often leaves investors feeling uneasy even when long-term results have been constructive, and why advisors can add value by preparing clients for inevitable drawdowns before they happen. The conversation also explores current market conditions, including resilient consumer spending, rising earnings expectations, labor market dynamics, and concerns around private credit. Throughout the episode, Sam returns to a central idea: markets may be volatile in the short run, but over time they have historically reflected innovation, adaptation, and the drive for better products, services, and outcomes.What You'll LearnWhy daily market coverage can feel disconnected from long-term market outcomesHow Sam uses historical context to interpret current market eventsWhy advisors may benefit from preparing clients for volatility before it arrivesWhat current consumer spending and earnings data may be signalingWhy some market fears are widely known while other risks can emerge unexpectedlyHow market turnover and innovation support long-term equity returnsWhat labor market “stickiness” may mean for productivity and corporate performanceHow repetition and clear communication can help advisors strengthen client trust Chapters00:00 How Talley, Jimmy, and Sam connected03:04 Shared background, media experience, and why Sam’s work resonates with advisors06:19 Sam’s philosophy on markets, media, and long-term framing13:46 How advisors can prepare clients for future drawdowns21:23 Contrarian thinking and why bad news can create opportunity23:41 Earnings expectations, consumer resilience, and margin stability29:00 Why markets tend to rise over time37:18 Private credit concerns and how Sam is thinking about the issue43:52 Labor market turnover, productivity, and the “tenure dividend”47:38 Sam’s background, storytelling style, and evolution as a writer55:03 Core market principles, hidden risks, and long-term optimism01:01:16 Closing thoughts on creativity, change, and human ingenuity GuestsSam Ro, Founder and Editor, Tkerhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/sammyro/ SpeakersJimmy Lee, Founder and CEO, The Wealth Consulting GroupTalley Leger, Chief Market Strategist, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 3/25/26 | ![]() #67 - Dave Mazza, Chief Executive Officer, Roundhill Investments: ETF Innovation, Portfolio Construction, and the Changing Role of Diversification (recorded 03/25/26) | In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Talley Leger is joined by Dave Mazza, Chief Executive Officer of Roundhill Investments, for a discussion on markets, ETFs, portfolio construction, and how investors may think about diversification in the current environment. Drawing on a long professional history together, Talley and Dave revisit the evolution of ETFs from early sector products to today’s more specialized and outcome-oriented strategies. They discuss the recent market backdrop, including the S&P 500 moving below its 200 day moving average, the role of energy and geopolitics, and why periods of volatility can create both risks and opportunities depending on an investor’s time horizon. The conversation also explores the technology trade, the Magnificent Seven, sector concentration, and why diversification across regions, market capitalizations, and asset classes may still matter even after periods when narrow leadership has dominated returns. Dave shares perspective on how Roundhill approaches product development, what makes a differentiated ETF issuer, and where innovation may continue across the industry. What You’ll LearnHow Dave thinks about the recent market pullback and the role of time horizon in portfolio decisionsWhy geopolitical headlines and oil prices may influence near-term market behaviorHow the Magnificent Seven fit into today’s broader market structureWhy diversification may still matter even after long periods of narrow market leadershipHow ETFs evolved from simple indexing tools into more specialized portfolio building blocksWhat distinguishes innovative ETF issuers from larger, more established providersHow financial advisors may think about core, satellite, and tactical portfolio construction Chapters01:02 Talley and Dave’s professional history and early ETF work03:06 Market pullback, the 200 day moving average, and time horizon08:42 Oil, inflation, rates, and comparisons to prior market periods15:46 The Magnificent Seven, tech concentration, and earnings strength21:22 Passive investing, ETFs, and market structure28:36 The history of smart beta, factor investing, and ETF development30:30 Replacing the traditional 60 40 portfolio using ETFs36:14 What separates successful ETF issuers from the rest39:46 The idea behind meme stock exposure and retail participation43:15 Advisor fee pressure and the role of product cost49:19 Where ETF innovation may go next53:07 Which ETF categories may face more pressure over time GuestsDave Mazza, Chief Executing Officer, Roundhill Investments SpeakersTalley Leger, Chief Market Strategist, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 3/20/26 | ![]() #66 - Dan Gallagher, Technology Columnist, Heard on the Street, The Wall Street Journal: AI Infrastructure, Software Disruption, and the Next Phase of Tech (recorded 03/20/26) | In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jim Worden speaks with Dan Gallagher, Technology Columnist for Heard on the Street at The Wall Street Journal, about the current state of the technology sector and the forces shaping markets today. Dan shares his long view on the evolution of technology, beginning with the early internet era and the first dot-com cycle, and compares that backdrop with the current wave of investment around artificial intelligence. The conversation focuses on Nvidia’s rise, hyperscaler spending, semiconductor supply constraints, memory pricing, and the broader chain of dependencies driving the AI buildout. Jim and Dan also discuss the pressure on software valuations, the distinction between platform companies and more exposed application businesses, and how investors may be thinking through durability, disruption, and changing narratives across the sector. What You’ll LearnHow the current AI cycle compares with prior technology cyclesWhy Nvidia’s growth story has been years in the makingHow memory supply and manufacturing constraints affect the AI ecosystemWhy hyperscaler spending remains central to the semiconductor storyWhat may be driving pressure on software valuationsWhy AI may create both efficiency gains and disruption across industriesHow technology adoption tends to evolve in uneven and unpredictable waysWhere Dan sees longer-term potential in physical world AI applicationsChapters01:12 Dan’s history covering technology and the evolution of tech cycles04:12 Nvidia’s rise from graphics chips to AI infrastructure leader07:22 What Dan took away from Nvidia’s recent conference and guidance09:22 Memory bottlenecks, Micron, and supply chain constraints15:10 Why Nvidia and other AI leaders may still face valuation questions19:53 Software stocks, AI narratives, and where pressure is coming from24:04 Why some software platforms may be more durable than others28:53 Palantir, secure AI use cases, and valuation sensitivity31:13 Adobe, creative tools, and consumer-facing AI disruption34:43 AI in Hollywood, content creation, and labor implications40:18 Everyday AI use cases and workflow changes45:10 AI adoption, human judgment, and preserving human connection49:31 Areas of technology Dan finds interesting over the long term GuestsDan Gallagher, Technology Columnist, Heard on the Street, The Wall Street Journal SpeakersJim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 3/17/26 | ![]() #65 Allison Bonds Mazza, Head of US Wealth at State Street, and James Seyffart, Senior Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence (recorded 03/17/26) | This special live episode of The Bull of Wall Street was recorded at the VettaFi Exchange 26 conference in Las Vegas NV, bringing together industry leaders for a real-time discussion on ETFs, market structure, and the evolving role of advisors. Jim Worden, CFA, CMT, CAIA, Jimmy Lee, and Talley Leger are joined by Allison Bonds Mazza, CIMA®, CPWA, Head of US Wealth at State Street, and James Seyffart, CFA, CAIA, Senior Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence. The conversation explores the growth of the ETF industry, including its origins following the 1987 market crash and its expansion to thousands of products and trillions in assets today. The group discusses ETF flows, the shift from mutual funds to ETF structures, and the increasing role of active ETFs across the market. Additional topics include sector positioning, gold and alternatives, crypto as a portfolio component, and the growing importance of model portfolios. The discussion also addresses broader industry themes such as advisor fee compression, generational shifts in investors, artificial intelligence, and the importance of human relationships in wealth management. What You’ll LearnHow the ETF industry evolved from early innovations to a multi-trillion dollar ecosystemWhy flows continue shifting from mutual funds into ETF structuresHow active ETFs are gaining share and influencing industry fee trendsWhat current ETF flow patterns may indicate about investor positioningHow advisors are using model portfolios and customization at scaleThe role of crypto and alternatives within diversified portfoliosHow artificial intelligence may impact investment workflows and productivityWhy advisor-client relationships remain central despite technological advancementsHow generational changes may influence future wealth management practices Chapters01:15 History and evolution of ETFs03:20 ETF flows and sector positioning trends06:08 Gold, alternatives, and portfolio durability themes08:24 Mutual funds versus ETFs and active ETF growth11:12 Product innovation and ETF launches13:37 Crypto ETFs and portfolio considerations15:53 Women in finance and industry evolution21:17 Active ETFs and fee dynamics24:27 Advisor margin compression and pricing discussions31:17 Product structure and democratization of access34:11 Model portfolios and customization trends39:04 Passive flows and market structure implications42:11 AI in investing and advisor workflows46:47 Direct indexing and future competition49:26 Sector positioning and industrial trends52:28 Product innovation and global expansion53:19 Advisor perspective and client engagement54:15 Next generation investors and digital expectations GuestsAllison Bonds-Mesa, CIMA®, CPWA, Head of US Wealth at State StreetJames Seyffart, CFA, CAIA, Senior Research Analyst at Bloomberg IntelligenceSpeakersJim Worden, CFA, CMT, CAIA, Chief Investment Officer, The Wealth Consulting GroupJimmy Lee, Chief Executive Officer, The Wealth Consulting GroupTalley Leger, Chief Market Strategist, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 3/11/26 | ![]() #64 - Michael Taylor, Portfolio Manager at Simplify Asset Management: Healthcare Innovation, GLP-1 Competition, and the Future of Markets (recorded 03/11/26) | n this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jim Worden and Paisley Nardini are joined by Michael Taylor, Portfolio Manager at Simplify Asset Management. Michael shares his unconventional path from drug discovery scientist to hedge fund manager and now ETF portfolio manager focused on healthcare innovation. The discussion explores the current state of the healthcare sector, including drug pricing dynamics, GLP-1 competition, and emerging innovation cycles. Michael also outlines how advancements in technology, including AI and automation, may impact drug development, productivity, and long-term economic trends. The conversation highlights both opportunities and risks across markets, with a focus on active management and sector positioning. What you’ll learnHow a background in drug development can inform investment decision-makingKey differences between GLP-1 therapies and how they may impact market shareWhy healthcare may be positioned for relative strength based on current conditionsHow innovation in diagnostics, therapeutics, and longevity research is evolvingThe role of demographics, debt, and productivity in shaping long-term market outcomesHow active management may identify opportunities within a complex healthcare landscape Chapters03:00 From scientist to hedge fund manager06:00 The Pink Fund and investing with purpose09:00 Personal story and racing journey14:00 Healthcare sector outlook18:00 Drug pricing and policy considerations23:00 Innovation in healthcare and AI impact29:00 GLP-1 competition and positioning36:00 Identifying opportunities beyond traditional healthcare42:00 Macro environment and sector flows49:00 Debt, demographics, and long-term risks01:03:00 Active management and healthcare allocation GuestsMichael Taylor, Portfolio Manager, Simplify Asset ManagementSpeakersJim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, The Wealth Consulting GroupPaisley Nardini, CFA, CAIA, Simplify Asset Management Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 3/4/26 | ![]() #63 - Geopolitics, Critical Technologies, and Industrial Reshoring with John O’Connor, CEO and Chairman, J.H. Whitney (recorded 03/04/26) | In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jimmy Lee is joined by John O’Connor, CEO and Chairman of J.H. Whitney, along with Jim Worden and Talley Leger, for a timely discussion on geopolitics, national security, critical technologies, and the shifting economic framework shaping markets. John outlines how J.H. Whitney’s work with the U.S. government evolved from advising on strategic competition with China into a broader investing and analytics capability. He explains how the firm assesses critical technologies, supply chain dependencies, and geostrategic entanglement risk, and how that framework has informed both government work and investment strategy. The conversation then turns to current geopolitical developments, including Iran, China, energy security, industrial policy, tariffs, critical minerals, artificial intelligence, and the longer-term implications of reshoring U.S. manufacturing. John shares his perspective on how these issues intersect with inflation, interest rates, capital markets, and national power, while Jim and Talley explore what these shifts may mean for advisors, investors, and portfolio positioning. What You’ll LearnHow J.H. Whitney’s government advisory work evolved into an investing frameworkWhy critical technologies, trade, and capital markets are increasingly linkedHow John views the competitive position of the U.S. relative to ChinaHow current developments involving Iran may affect inflation, rates, and market volatilityWhy rare earths, critical materials, and processing capability matter beyond mining aloneHow AI and quantum may influence productivity, competitiveness, and national securityHow energy, defense spending, and industrial policy may shape the next phase of economic transition Chapters03:10 J.H. Whitney’s government advisory work and strategic competition with China07:55 Trade, technology, and capital markets as instruments of national power10:39 Why quantum may become more visible in the years ahead13:58 AI, automation, and U.S. industrial competitiveness17:13 The U.S. manufacturing renaissance and capital spending incentives19:47 A geopolitical framework for interpreting current events25:58 Iran, energy security, inflation, and rate implications30:16 Follow-up on Iran and possible paths forward34:29 Energy, defense spending, and the idea of a peace dividend40:07 AI adoption, software, and the practical impact on productivity55:58 Productivity measurement and the economic impact of AI01:02:15 Fiscal balance, government efficiency, and structural pressures GuestsJohn O’Connor, CEO and Chairman, J.H. Whitney SpeakersJimmy Lee, Chief Executive Officer and Financial Advisor, The Wealth Consulting GroupJim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, The Wealth Consulting GroupTalley Leger, Chief Market Strategist, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 2/19/26 | ![]() #62 - Market History, Sector Rotation, and Investor Discipline with Sam Stovall, Chief Investment Strategist, CFRA (recorded 02/19/26) | In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jim Worden, CFA®, CMT®, CAIA welcomes Sam Stovall, Chief Investment Strategist at CFRA, for a wide-ranging discussion grounded in market history, sector rotation, earnings trends, and investor behavior. Sam reflects on his decades in the investment industry, including his time at Standard and Poor’s and CFRA, and shares how studying history has shaped his approach to markets. He explains why he thinks human emotion remains the most consistent driver of market behavior, despite changes in technology, access to information, and market structure. The conversation explores sector rotation, valuation dynamics, midterm election year patterns, earnings trends, and the evolution of market participation through ETFs. Sam also addresses artificial intelligence, demographic shifts, investor sentiment, and the importance of financial literacy. Throughout the discussion, Sam emphasizes discipline, perspective, and a long-term mindset, while acknowledging that markets can be volatile and outcomes are never guaranteed. What You’ll LearnWhy Sam thinks human emotion remains a primary market driver across decadesWhat historical midterm election year data has shown about volatility and returnsHow earnings expectations are managed and why beat rates remain highWhy valuations may appear elevated and how market structure has evolvedHow AI-related earnings growth compares to prior technology cyclesWhy diversification across growth and defensive sectors may reduce volatilityHow pullbacks and corrections have historically resolved over timeThe importance of financial literacy and investor discipline Chapters03:32 Market history and what has remained consistent over time06:03 Human emotion as the constant market driver11:22 Sector rotation and valuation considerations13:31 Midterm election year historical patterns16:16 Technology valuations and software repricing19:05 ETFs, retail participation, and market structure20:55 Precious metals, silver, and dollar dynamics25:17 Risk adjusted returns and diversification examples28:13 Volatility, fear versus greed, and market corrections32:35 Earnings trends and forward expectations37:14 AI growth projections and semiconductor earnings45:16 Historical drawdowns and systematic reinvestment approaches GuestsSam Stovall, Chief Investment Strategist, CFRA SpeakersJim Worden, CFA®, CMT®, CAIA, Chief Investment Officer, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 2/11/26 | ![]() #61 - Technical Analysis, Trend Following, and Risk Management with Frank Cappelleri, Founder, CappThesis (recorded 02/11/26) | In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Talley Leger and Jim Worden are joined by Frank Cappelleri, founder of CappThesis, for a technical-analysis focused discussion centered on chart patterns, trend identification, and practical risk management. Frank shares his background, including early experience alongside technical analysis pioneers and later work with institutional trading desks. He describes how his process emphasizes classical chart patterns, relative strength, and an effort to reduce bias by focusing on what price action is doing rather than what a symbol or narrative “should” do. The conversation also covers how Frank thinks about market environments, why certain indicators may work better in some periods than others, and how he thinks advisors and active investors can approach position sizing and stop discipline in more volatile conditions. What You’ll LearnHow Frank’s approach uses classical chart patterns as the foundation for trend analysisWhy frank believes relative strength and “what is working” can matter more than narrativesHow Frank frames risk first, including stop discipline and position sizingWhy “time corrections” and “price corrections” can look different in practiceWhat Frank looks for before acting on potential reversals in silver and bitcoinWhy indicators can behave differently depending on the market environmentHow advisors can use technical frameworks as a way to organize risk discussions Chapters02:10 The origin of CappThesis and what differentiates Frank’s approach03:35 Early influences, industry group relative strength, and “riding what works”07:02 Trend following, classical patterns, and how uptrends often build over time08:50 Changes in how technical analysis is perceived and used today11:22 Why risk management and price discipline are central to the process13:00 Stop discipline, volatility adjustments, and position sizing considerations14:23 S&P 500 discussion, zones, and the role of market leadership16:16 Consolidations, “time corrections,” and the psychology of ranges20:20 Trading boxes, support and resistance, and different ways to visualize structure23:42 Software versus semiconductors divergence and what it may imply28:30 Long-term relative support and why timeframe context can matter41:05 Silver uptrends, moving averages, and what to watch in a pullback47:20 Bitcoin patterns, retracements, and correlation observations50:26 Base-building versus early entry and how Frank approaches patience55:01 Market structure considerations and why large flows can influence moves58:43 ETFs, options, and how short-term dynamics can impact price action GuestFrank Cappelleri, Founder, CappThesis SpeakersTalley Leger, Chief Market Strategist, The Wealth Consulting GroupJim Worden, CFA, CMT, CAIA, Chief Investment Officer, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup The Bull of Wall Street features advisor-focused conversations intended to support professional learning and thoughtful discussion. Subscribe for additional episodes and updates. Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcgMaking Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group | — | ||||||
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| 2/4/26 | ![]() #60 - Portfolio Construction in an Era of Innovation with Shannon Saccocia, Chief Investment Officer for Wealth, Neuberger Berman (recorded 02/04/26) | In Episode 60 of The Bull of Wall Street, Jim Worden sits down with Shannon Saccocia, Chief Investment Officer for Wealth at Neuberger Berman, for a thoughtful discussion on how portfolio construction has evolved alongside innovation, expanded access to private markets, and shifting market conditions.Shannon reflects on her professional journey from early roles in banking and registered investment advisory firms to her current leadership role at Neuberger Berman. She discusses how institutional investment frameworks have increasingly influenced private client portfolios and why understanding risk, liquidity, and investor experience remains critical as access to new strategies expands. Throughout the conversation, Jim and Shannon explore topics including diversification beyond concentrated equity exposure, considerations within fixed income and private credit, and how advisors can help clients interpret an increasingly complex investment landscape. The discussion concludes with a broader look at long-term structural forces such as demographics and technological change, emphasizing the ongoing role of advisors in providing context and perspective rather than predictions. What you'll learnHow institutional portfolio frameworks have influenced private client investingWhy expanded access to private markets increases the need for education and due diligenceConsiderations around equity concentration and diversificationHow fixed income and private credit can be evaluated within broader portfolio constructionWhy long-term trends such as demographics and innovation matter for planning discussionsThe evolving role of advisors in helping clients interpret information and risk Chapters02:43 Evolution of private client portfolio construction04:27 Access to private markets and investor education05:08 Considerations when incorporating private investments07:06 Client education in an information-rich environment08:49 Similarities between public and private investments12:36 Portfolio diversification considerations beyond concentrated equity exposure15:38 Fixed income positioning and portfolio considerations19:20 Private credit structures and due diligence25:13 International diversification and currency considerations27:40 Discussion on equity market dispersion and innovation35:19 Long-term demographic and structural considerations41:50 Portfolio construction as an ongoing process43:12 The continuing role of advisors GuestsShannon Saccocia, Chief Investment Officer for Wealth, Neuberger Berman SpeakersJim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupThe Bull of Wall Street is part of WCG’s ongoing effort to provide thoughtful conversations and perspectives for financial professionals. Subscribe for updates, insights, and discussions focused on supporting advisors and their clients as markets and practices evolve. Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 2/3/26 | ![]() #59 - Building a High-Value Advisory Practice with Ken Van Leeuwen, Managing Director of Van Leeuwen & Company: Planning Fees, Team Design, and Succession (recorded 02/03/26) | In this advisor-to-advisor conversation, Jimmy Lee sits down with Ken Van Leeuwen, Managing Director of Van Leeuwen & Company, to unpack what it really takes to build a durable, high-touch wealth management practice over decades. What you'll learnKen shares how comprehensive planning became the foundation of his business, why he intentionally charges for advice, and how language, positioning, and a team-based client experience can elevate both client outcomes and practice sustainability. The episode also covers organic growth through client advocacy, mentorship, and how Ken approached succession planning after a personal wake-up call. Finally, Ken offers a practical view of where AI fits in an advisory firm: efficiency, not replacing the human relationship. Why Ken built his practice around paid planning (and why he avoids calling it “financial planning”)How EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) shaped his team structure and executionThe value of having two advisors in client meetings and how it supports continuityWhy words matter in client communicationHow Ken drives growth through client advocacy and referrals using Voice of the ClientThe real catalyst that pushed him to formalize succession planningWhere AI can help advisory firms immediately: notes, workflows, admin, and speed to service Chapters01:00 Ken’s journey into advice and why he went independent04:40 Team structure, EOS, and building a scalable practice08:40 Charging for planning and “Building Your Life Vision”14:50 Why every client gets two advisors in meetings20:00 The power of language and positioning in advice24:40 Organic growth: referrals, Pareto, and Voice of the Client33:20 Why corporate executives became the ideal client profile40:10 Succession planning and the wake-up call that changed everything45:40 Lessons Ken would tell his younger self55:20 AI in advisory firms Guest: Ken Van Leeuwen, Managing Director, Van Leeuwen & Company Host: Jimmy Lee, Chief Executive Officer & Financial Advisor, WCG Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice—and your life—better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 1/28/26 | ![]() #58 - Jared Dillian, founder of Armington Capital, on Risk, Sentiment, and Why Courage Matters When Markets Feel Easy (recorded 01/28/26) | In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Talley Léger welcomes a longtime colleague and market veteran, Jared Dillian, editor of The Daily Dirt Nap, founder of Armington Capital, and an author of seven books. Jared and Talley reconnect through shared Lehman-era market scars and use that lens to talk about what investors consistently miss before major dislocations—leverage, liquidity, and confidence, and why those risks may be building quietly in private credit and private equity today. From there, the conversation shifts into the advisor playbook: how to think about risk management when markets are calm, why the Fed follows the “path of least embarrassment,” how advisors can use sentiment without becoming day traders, and why diversification across asset classes is still the most underutilized edge in wealth management. What you’ll learn• The warning signs investors tend to miss before major crises—and why leverage is the real accelerant• Why Jared’s top concern isn’t mega-cap concentration, it’s private markets leverage• How to approach risk management when markets are calm: “buy protection when you can, not when you have to”• The Fed’s true incentive structure, and why it’s often behind the curve• How advisors can use sentiment and positioning without turning into short-term traders• Why US-only “diversification” isn’t diversification—and how to build a real multi-asset portfolio• The behavioral mistake that shows up in every bull market: chasing what just worked• Why the best advisors need courage to do something different (even when it’s unpopular) Chapters 01:10 – Dirtcon vs. DJ’ing Omnia: which was better (and why)03:05 – Jared’s subscriber base and what Dirtcon has become03:45 – Lessons from Lehman and market crises: what people always miss06:45 – Concentration risk vs. real systemic risk08:10 – What drives crises: leverage, liquidity, and confidence09:10 – Jared’s portfolio positioning: international, EM, commodities11:40 – Where leverage is building now: private credit / private equity13:20 – Markets at all-time highs: risk management when things feel easy14:00 – “Buy protection when you can, not when you have to” (pandemic puts story)15:20 – The biggest misconception about the Fed16:00 – “The Fed follows the path of least embarrassment”18:20 – 2022: when 60/40 broke and there was nowhere to hide19:00 – Is the Fed data dependent or political?21:15 – Does monetary policy still have signal?23:00 – How advisors can use sentiment without becoming day traders24:10 – Jared’s Edward Jones story: advisors chasing fear and greed28:00 – Bull markets: chasing, unrealistic expectations, and mean reversion risk30:20 – Valuations: useful long-term, not a short-term timing tool31:55 – Why US-only portfolios are dangerously narrow33:45 – Fear vs. greed: what’s most dangerous now37:10 – Forecasting vs. diversification (and Jared’s new book)40:20 – Jared’s 7th book: The Awesome Portfolio41:00 – Market narratives: analysis vs. storytelling (what actually sells)47:50 – Smart brevity and cutting through research noise49:50 – Closing advice: courage, “do no harm,” and protecting client wealth52:10 – Where to follow Jared + subscriber discount GuestJared Dillian, Editor, The Daily Dirt Nap, Founder & Principal, Armington CapitalAuthor (7 books), including upcoming The Awesome Portfolio HostTalley Léger, Chief Market Strategist, WCG Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 1/21/26 | ![]() #57 – Scott Helfstein, Global X Global Head of Investments on Geopolitics, AI, and the New “Automation Age” (recorded 01/21/26) | In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jim Worden is joined by co-host Talley Leger and guest Scott Helfstein, Global Head of Investments at Global X. Scott brings a rare blend of experience across the Federal Reserve, investment banking, academia (West Point), and national security research, then connects the dots to what matters most for markets in 2026. The conversation moves from geopolitical strategy (including Greenland’s renewed relevance) to the Roaring 2020s framework, and ultimately into the investable reality of AI: not just “information,” but automation—where technology starts making decisions and taking actions, not just delivering insights. Scott also breaks down what thematic investing actually means, why margins may be structurally higher than history suggests, and where “economic broadening” is already happening beyond the mega-cap leaders. What you’ll learn• Why U.S. interest in Greenland has historical precedent—and modern strategic logic• How Scott frames 2026 through a “Roaring 20s” lens (and what to watch for)• The shift from the Information Age to the Automation Age—and why it matters• Why profit margins may not mean-revert the way many expect• What “thematic investing” is (and what it isn’t) for advisor portfolios• Where Scott sees economic broadening even if market breadth remains narrow• Practical ways advisors can use technology to scale trust without replacing it Chapters01:30 – Scott’s career path: Fed → banking → PhD → West Point → Wall Street → thematics04:15 – War studies, geopolitics, and Scott why Scott says it matters for markets05:20 – Greenland: the historical context and strategic rationale10:15 – Rare earths, Arctic lanes, and the national security lens11:15 – 2026 outlook: revisiting the “Roaring 20s” framework13:20 – Innovation cycles then vs. now: what rhymes with the 1920s16:15 – AI: what’s next (agentic AI, robotics, physical-world automation)20:35 – What is thematic investing, really?24:30 – Secular themes Scott’s watching: AI ecosystem, defense tech, infrastructure31:10 – Advisors and margins: scaling trust with technology35:55 – The K-shaped economy, rates, and what the Fed is missing41:10 – Creative destruction: jobs, opportunity, and the AI ecosystem buildout48:10 – “Circular investment” concerns: why this isn’t 2008 or dot-com53:10 – Scott’s contrarian view: economic broadening beyond mega-cap tech GuestScott Helfstein, Global Head of Investments, Global X HostsJim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, WCGTalley Leger, Chief Market Strategist, WCG Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice—and your life—better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 1/12/26 | ![]() #56 – Bob Pisani, CNBC Stocks Correspondent (Ret.) on Markets, Media, and the Biggest Investing Mistakes He’s Seen in 35 Years (recorded 01/12/25) | In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jimmy Lee, Jim Worden and Talley Leger are joined by Bob Pisani, legendary CNBC Stocks Correspondent, for a wide-ranging and deeply reflective conversation on markets, media, and investor behavior. Drawing on more than three decades reporting from the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, Bob shares what he’s learned about forecasting, behavioral bias, media influence, and why most investors, professionals included, consistently make the same mistakes. From his formative relationship with Jack Bogle to his conviction in low-cost indexing, Bob offers timeless lessons that cut through market noise and short-term thinking. This episode is less about predictions and more about perspective. The kind only earned by watching markets, people, and cycles repeat themselves for 35 years. What you’ll learn• Why forecasting market returns is far harder and less useful than most investors believe• The most common behavioral mistakes investors make, even with perfect information• How media coverage shapes investor behavior (for better and worse)• Why Bob Pisani became a long-term, low-cost index investor• How advisors can help clients ignore noise and stay disciplinedChapters01:20 – Bob’s unconventional path to CNBC05:00 – The early days of CNBC and the rise of market media08:00 – Trust, reporting, and life on the NYSE floor14:00 – Jack Bogle’s influence and the case for indexing17:30 – Why stock picking and forecasting fail over time21:00 – Media, momentum, and recency bias24:30 – Behavioral finance and why humans struggle to predict the future29:00 – Market valuations, expectations, and long-term planning33:00 – Advice for advisors navigating signal vs. noise37:00 – Staying invested, managing risk, and playing the long game GuestBob Pisani, CNBC Stocks Correspondent (Ret.), and Author of Shut Up and Keep Talking HostsJimmy Lee, Chief Executive Officer, WCG,Jim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, WCGTally Lager, Chief Market Strategist, WCG Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupIf you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice—and your life—better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 1/12/26 | ![]() #55 – Stephanie Aliaga, Global Market Strategist at J.P. Morgan Asset Management on 2026 Market Outlook, Global Growth, and What Could Break the Cycle (recorded 01/06/25) | In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jim Worden sits down with Stephanie Aliaga, Global Market Strategist at J.P. Morgan, to kick off 2026 with a clear-eyed view of where the global economy and markets stand, and where the real risks and opportunities may lie. Stephanie shares J.P. Morgan’s latest thinking on U.S. growth, inflation, interest rates, global divergence, and the key forces shaping asset allocation decisions in the year ahead. From soft-landing probabilities to policy risk, earnings durability, and investor positioning, this conversation cuts through the noise and focuses on what actually matters for advisors navigating client portfolios in 2026. What you’ll learn:• How J.P. Morgan is positioning for economic growth and market returns in 2026• Why the U.S. remains resilient, and where cracks could still form• The biggest risks investors may be underestimating this year• How global divergence is shaping equity and fixed income opportunities• What advisors should be watching as policy, rates, and earnings intersect Chapters:02:30 – J.P. Morgan’s baseline outlook for the U.S. economy06:45 – Growth, inflation, and the soft-landing debate11:40 – Interest rates, policy expectations, and market reactions17:20 – Global divergence: where opportunities and risks differ23:10 – Equity markets, earnings durability, and valuation context29:00 – Key risks that could disrupt the 2026 outlook34:30 – What advisors should focus on in client portfolios this year39:15 – Final thoughts on navigating markets in 2026 Guest:Stephanie Aliaga, Global Market Strategist, J.P. Morgan Host:Jim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, WCG Follow us:LinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice and your life better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 12/23/25 | ![]() #54 – Phillip "Felipe' Toews - Author & Founder/CEO of Toews Asset Management on The Behavioral Portfolio, Long-Duration Risk, and Why the 60/40 Model Breaks When History Matters (recorded 12/15/25) | In this episode, Phillip "Felipe" Toews, author of The Behavioral Portfolio and a long-time advocate for risk-aware investing, joins Jim Worden and Paisley Nardini for a deep, historically grounded conversation on why conventional portfolio construction often fails investors when it matters most. Drawing on decades of market history, Phillip explains how long-duration bear markets, not short-term volatility, create the greatest behavioral and financial risk for investors and advisors alike. From the Great Depression to multi-decade bond bear markets, Phillip challenges recency bias, questions the foundations of the 60/40 portfolio, and outlines why advisors must think like chief risk officers first. The discussion explores behavioral finance, portfolio design, hedged equity strategies, adaptive fixed income, and why proactive communication, not reactive reassurance is critical to long-term client success. What you’ll learn• Why the 60/40 portfolio is a historical accident not a true design framework• How long-duration bear markets reshape investor behavior and decision-making• Why recency bias causes advisors and clients to underestimate real risk• How rebalancing can increase drawdowns in severe market regimes• What “left-tail risk” really means for real-world portfolios• Why advisors must proactively discuss worst-case scenarios before they happen• How hedged equity strategies can preserve upside while limiting catastrophic loss• Why behavioral risk often matters more than market risk Chapters03:00 — Phillip's journey: from Kansas to asset management and risk mitigation08:00 — Why investor timing destroys returns, even in good strategies13:00 — The Great Depression, bond bear markets, and what history really shows19:00 — Why the 60/40 portfolio fails during long-duration drawdowns25:00 — Rebalancing myths and behavioral breakdowns in severe markets31:00 — Rethinking portfolio design: cutting the left tail without killing upside37:00 — Hedged equity, adaptive fixed income, and managing uncertainty43:00 — Why advisors must act as chief risk officers49:00 — Communicating risk before markets fall, not afterGuestPhillip "Filipe" Toews, Founder & CEO, Toews Asset Management and Author of The Behavioral Portfolio HostsJim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, WCGPaisley Nardini, Portfolio Manager, Simplify Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupIf you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice, and your life better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 12/10/25 | ![]() #53 – Ron Baron and Michael Baron of Baron Capital on Long-Term Ownership, Conviction Investing, and Building Generational Wealth (recorded 12/10/25) | #53 – Baron Capital Founder and CEO Ron Baron and Co-President and Portfolio Manager Michael Baron on Long-Term Ownership, Conviction Investing, and Why Great Wealth Is Built by Owning Businesses In this episode, Ron Baron, Founder and CEO of Baron Capital, and Michael Baron, Co-President and Portfolio Manager, join The Bull of Wall Street for a wide-ranging conversation on generational wealth, conviction investing, and why true long-term success comes from owning great businesses rather than trading headlines. Ron reflects on the personal experiences that shaped his philosophy, the discipline required to hold through volatility, and what he calls the true test of friendship in investing. The discussion also explores Baron Capital’s expansion into ETFs and how advisors can think about structure, implementation, and long-term portfolio construction in a rapidly changing market environment.What you’ll learn:Why Ron Baron believes generational wealth is created by owning businesses, not buying and selling stocksHow conviction is built through deep research and first-principles thinkingLessons from holding investments through severe drawdownsWhat the Elon Musk and X investment revealed about risk, patience, and partnershipHow Baron Capital is translating its philosophy into ETF structuresWhy active management still matters in transformational technology cyclesHow advisors can frame volatility with clients through a business-owner mindsetChapters03:00 – From $100M to over $50B: the long road of ownership05:30 – Why selling great companies too early taught Ron that wealth is built by holding.08:30 – Michael’s perspective on growing into the process and building durable belief.10:45 – What it means to stand by an investment when sentiment turns sharply negative.16:30 – Why ETFs, why now24:30 – Why transformational tech is not a bubble and why selectivity still matters.32:30 – First principles and holding through volatility40:00 – Why owning growing businesses remains the best defense against uncertainty. GuestRon Baron – Founder, CEO, and Portfolio Manager, Baron CapitalMichael Baron – Co-President and Portfolio Manager, Baron Capital HostsJim Worden – Chief Investment Officer, WCGTalley Leger – Chief Market Strategist, WCG | — | ||||||
| 12/4/25 | ![]() #52 – Julius de Kempenaer, creator of Relative Rotation Graphs on Relative Rotation Graphs, Sector Rotation Intelligence, and Why Momentum Still Rules the Markets | In this episode, Julius de Kempenaer, creator of Relative Rotation Graphs (RRG®), CMT charterholder, and one of the most influential technical minds in modern market analysis joins Jim Worden and Talley Leger for a deep dive into how professional investors spot rotation, manage risk, and visualize market leadership before it shows up in price. Julius shares the origin story behind RRG, why institutions rely on it globally, and how advisors can use rotation analysis to improve portfolio construction, timing, and client communication. From sector rotation to asset-class mapping to avoiding the “doghouse quadrant,” Julius breaks down the tools and signals that he thinks matter most in today’s market. What you’ll learn• How Julius invented Relative Rotation Graphs and why they changed market analysis• Why RRG captures true leadership changes better than traditional relative strength charts• How to read momentum, tail length, heading, and quadrant shifts with confidence• When a rotation may be an early warning signal vs. noise• Why tech dominance can distort traditional sector narratives• How to use RRG for equities, fixed income, currencies, crypto, and asset allocation• How advisors can use RRG visuals to simplify complex portfolio conversations Chapters:02:00 — Julius’ unexpected path: Dutch Air Force captain to fund manager to technical pioneer07:00 — How RRG was born: the Bloomberg debut and the Excel “aha moment”12:00 — Sector rotation today: tech strength, defensive improvement, and warning signs17:00 — How to interpret tail length, heading, and quadrant transitions22:00 — Lagging → improving vs. leading → weakening: what matters most27:00 — Using RRG for multi-asset portfolios, yield curve analysis, and crypto32:00 — Benchmark selection: why picking the wrong benchmark breaks your analysis38:00 — How advisors can use RRG to communicate positioning and risk44:00 — The future of rotation analysis and why momentum still works Guest:Julius de Kempenaer, CMT and Creator of Relative Rotation Graphs (RRG®) Hosts:Talley Leger, Chief Market Strategist, WCGJim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, WCG Follow us LinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting Group If you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice and your life, better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 11/24/25 | ![]() #51 – Rebecca Patterson, Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, on the “Jenga Tower Economy,” Policy Volatility, and What Could Shake Markets in 2025 (recorded 11/24/25) | In this episode, Rebecca Patterson, Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and former Chief Investment Strategist at Bridgewater Associates, and Former Chief Investment Officer at Bessemer Trust, joins Jim Worden and Talley Leger to break down one of the most complicated macro environments of our careers. Rebecca explains why the U.S. economy resembles a “Jenga tower”, still standing, still rising, but increasingly unstable. She discusses the widening divide between large and small businesses, the uneven health of U.S. consumers, the risk implications of delayed tariffs, and why global policy uncertainty could matter even more than Fed cuts in 2025. She also dives into the dollar, gold, the future of immigration and demographics, and what AI-driven productivity might mean for long-term growth.What you’ll learnWhy Rebecca compares today’s economy to a “Jenga tower” with fewer supportsThe biggest risks to the 2025 outlook, including AI disappointment, Fed missteps, and wealthy consumer fatigueWhy small businesses are weakening more than large companies and why it mattersHow global fiscal challenges (“the Fragile Four”) could reshape currency dynamicsWhy the dollar’s next move may be lower despite global turbulenceHow AI, demographics, geopolitics, and climate will shape the next decadeWhat investors miss when they oversimplify tariffs and global trade flowsWhy diversification, not concentration, is the most important discipline heading into 2025Chapters02:00 — How Rebecca went from aspiring astronaut to journalist to global macro strategist07:30 — The “Jenga tower economy”: strong on top, fragile underneath12:00 — AI CapEx, wealthy consumer resilience, and what surprised markets in 202417:30 — What could cause the tower to wobble: labor trends, confidence, and policy volatility23:00 — Tariffs, USMCA, and how global supply chains really work28:00 — Dollar dynamics, the “Fragile Four,” and central bank gold buying34:00 — Bitcoin, tech, and whether crypto selloffs can trigger equity contagion41:00 — How macro frameworks evolve—and what doesn’t change46:00 — Long-term themes: tech, demographics, geopolitics, and climate51:00 — What investors should do now: diversify and avoid the panic tradeGuest: Rebecca Patterson - Senior Fellow, Council on Foreign RelationsHosts: Talley Leger, Chief Market Strategist, WCG and Jim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, WCG Follow usLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-wealth-consulting-groupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroupMaking Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupIf you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources that make your practice, and your life better.Subscribe: bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 11/19/25 | ![]() #50 – ARK Investment Management's Founder & CEO Cathie Wood on AI, Robotics, and the Next 10 Years of Disruption (recorded 11/19/25) | In this episode, Cathie Wood, CEO and founder of ARK Investment Management joins The Bull of Wall Street to explain why today’s innovation cycle is very different from the late-1990s tech bubble. She breaks down why the reality of technologies like AI, robotics, energy storage, multi-omics, and blockchain is here now, even as investors remain scarred by past manias. Cathie also dives into enterprise AI, Palantir’s role in transforming organizations, how ARK navigates drawdowns by concentrating into highest-conviction names, and what the world could look like in 10 years with autonomous vehicles, humanoid robots, and a fully financialized digital world. What you’ll learn:Why the late-1990s tech bubble “came too early” and why this time the tech is actually readyHow AWS, deep learning, and transformer models set the stage for today’s AI waveWhy Cathie believes we’re closer to “1995 than 2000” in the AI adoption cycleHow enterprise AI (and Palantir’s ontology layer) may disrupt traditional consulting and SaaSHow ARK responds when innovation stocks sell off: concentration, scoring, and thesis riskWhich incumbents are most vulnerable to disruption in software, banking, transportation, and healthcareHow AI, digital assets, and quantum computing intersect — and what that means for BitcoinCathie’s 10-year vision: robotaxis, air taxis, Mars robots, healthspan breakthroughs, and a bigger digital economy Chapters: 01:07 – Cathie’s journey: from AllianceBernstein to ARK and the seeds of today’s tech04:35 – Why this isn’t the 1990s all over again: costs, readiness, and investor scar tissue07:04 – AI in the real world: consumer adoption, enterprise bottlenecks & Palantir’s ontology13:11 – Navigating drawdowns: ARK’s scoring system, high-conviction names, and crypto exposure17:35 – Managing critics, staying focused on original research, and being a hedge to value traps21:25 – Disruption ahead: SaaS, banks, rails, pharma/biotech, and the shift from “sick care” to healthcare25:46 – Digital assets, quantum risk, and why AI may invest more capital than quantum (for now)28:45 – Cathie’s 10-year outlook: autonomy everywhere, space infrastructure, humanoid robots & the future of work Guest: Cathie Wood, CEO & Founder, ARK Investment ManagementHosts: Jimmy Lee (CEO & Founder, WCG), Jim Worden (Chief Investment Officer, WCG), and Talley Leger (Chief Market Strategist, WCG) Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupIf you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice—and your life—better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 11/17/25 | ![]() #49 – Author and former chief investment strategist Jim Paulsen on Early-Cycle Signals, Pessimistic Sentiment, and Why This Bull Market May Be Younger Than It Looks (recorded 11/17/25) | In this episode, Jim Paulsen, PhD-trained economist and Paulsen Perspectives author, returns to The Bull of Wall Street to decode one of the strangest economic periods in modern history. Jim explains why this bull market may actually still be in its early stages, how policy has been historically tight beneath the surface, and why easing could unlock a broadening beyond the mega-cap names. He also dives into the misunderstood relationship between AI, productivity, and the future of work, and why the long-term outlook may be more optimistic than headlines suggest. What you’ll learn:Why Main Street sentiment looks like a recession despite rising marketsHow tech’s innovation cycle diverged from the traditional business cycleWhy Jim believes this bull market behaves like an early-cycle advanceHow policy (rates, M2, yield curve, dollar) has remained too tight for too longWhy small caps and cyclicals may be set for a catch-up tradeHow AI and productivity shifts could shape future growthWhy the U.S. has a growth problem, not an inflation problemJim’s long-term optimism for technology, global connectivity, and economic resilience Chapters:02:00 – Is this a new bull market? Sentiment, character, and early-cycle signals06:00 – The sentiment puzzle: Why Main Street feels terrible while markets rise12:00 – Tech vs. the rest: How the “new era” economy masked an old-economy recession18:00 – Productivity, profits, and why tech may operate on its own innovation cycle24:00 – Policy has been historically tight — and how easing could broaden the market31:00 – Small caps, cyclicals, and the setup for a potential rotation40:00 – AI: Productivity miracle, job fears, and long-term economic impact53:00 – Recession fears, the Fed’s dilemma, and why growth—not inflation—is the bigger issue01:04 – Jim’s long-term optimism: Technology, connection, and the next decade Guest: Jim Paulsen, Paulson Perspectives Hosts: Jim Worden (CIO, WCG), Talley Leger (Chief Market Strategist, WCG), & Paisley Nardini (Investment Committee, WCG) Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupIf you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice—and your life—better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 11/11/25 | ![]() #48 - Ethos Investment Management founder & CIO James Fletcher on Emerging Markets, Boots-on-the-Ground Alpha, and Building the Next Generation of Investors (recorded 11/10/25) | In this episode, emerging markets specialist and Ethos Investment Management founder James Fletcher joins host Jim Worden to unpack how “Warren Buffett-style” investing can thrive in inefficient markets, and why pairing returns with real-world impact can be a durable edge. James shares how Ethos uses a global network of locally based analysts and BYU Pathway graduates to uncover under-covered opportunities, and how Young Investor Society grew from one inner-city classroom to 3,400 high schools in 80 countries. What you’ll learn:How a boots-on-the-ground research model uncovers alpha in emerging marketsWhy small- and mid-cap stocks in places like India, the Philippines, Kenya, and Poland are so inefficientHow the Ethos Pathway Fund structure ties management fees directly to funding analysts from underprivileged backgroundsThe origin and global reach of Young Investor Society, and why high school students can be serious equity analystsWhere James sees the most compelling EM opportunities over the next 3–5 years (India, Southeast Asia, “Mag-7-adjacent” tech in Taiwan & Korea)His nuanced take on China, EVs, and domestic champions vs. multinationals Chapters:02:05 – From Brazil mission to emerging markets investor: James’ path to Ethos04:00 – Launching Ethos and building a locally based analyst team07:00 – BYU Pathway and the Ethos internship: turning education into alpha14:05 – Young Investor Society: from one LA classroom to a global program29:00 – Real-world examples: Philippine ports, Kenyan telecoms, and finding mispriced quality31:20 – Accessing India and other hard-to-reach markets34:20 – EM vs. US: currencies, valuations, and why James is bullish on EM now38:50 – China, EVs, and the rise of domestic champions46:55 – Scaling the Pathway model and what’s next for Ethos49:20 – How advisors and investors can think about EM allocations and get involved Guest: James Fletcher, Founder & Chief Investment Officer, Ethos Investment ManagementHost: Jim Worden, Chief Investment Officer, The Wealth Consulting Group Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupIf you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice—and your life—better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 11/3/25 | ![]() #47 - Fairlead Strategies founder and technical strategist Katie Stockton on Technical Analysis, Trend Discipline, and Building a Risk-Aware ETF (recorded 11/03/25) | In this episode, technical strategist and Fairlead Strategies founder Katie Stockton, CMT, joins hosts Jim Worden and Talley Leger to explore the discipline of technical analysis—how it complements fundamentals, informs risk management, and shapes portfolio strategy. Katie shares the story behind launching the Fairlead Tactical Sector ETF (TACK) and how she applies a systematic, long-term approach to identifying opportunities and managing drawdowns. What you’ll learn: • Why technical and fundamental analysis work best together • How to apply trend-following and momentum without chasing noise • Lessons from launching an ETF built for risk-aware investors • How advisors can use sector rotation and cross-asset diversification • Common mistakes advisors make when applying momentum or trend models • Katie’s most under-appreciated indicators for gauging trend exhaustion Chapters02:00 – From CMT to entrepreneur: Katie’s journey to Fairlead Strategies06:00 – Launching TACK: designing a risk-aware ETF12:00 – Technicals vs. fundamentals: finding balance18:00 – Sector rotation and market breadth24:00 – Risk management and adaptive models31:00 – The art of using indicators effectively45:00 – How advisors can apply trend discipline in practice58:00 – Katie’s most underrated tools and closing thoughts Guest: Katie Stockton, CMT, Founder & Managing Partner, Fairlead StrategiesHosts: Talley Leger (Chief Market Strategist, WCG) & Jim Worden (CIO, WCG) Follow usLinkedIn: The Wealth Consulting GroupX (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupIf you’re ready to see how WCG helps advisors grow, subscribe for insights, updates, and resources built to make your practice—and your life—better.Subscribe at bit.ly/wealthcg | — | ||||||
| 10/27/25 | ![]() #46 - Adam Patti, CEO and Co-Founder of VistaShares on AI Infrastructure, Electrification, and Building ETFs for the Next Supercycle | In this episode of The Bull of Wall Street, Jim Worden sits down with Adam Patti, CEO and Co-Founder of VistaShares, to explore how ETFs are evolving in the age of AI, electrification, and innovation supercycles. From creating one of the first hedge-fund-replication ETFs to building a new generation of active, rules-based products, Adam shares insights into how investors can capture the infrastructure powering artificial intelligence, and why transmission, cooling, and power distribution may be among the biggest opportunities in years. The discussion also covers the concentration risk in major indices, the next phase of AI-driven capital spending, and how innovation in ETF design is meeting the demands of a fast-changing investment landscape. What you’ll learn:Why 30% of an AI data center’s cost is cooling—and who’s profitingThe “bill of materials” approach to ETF construction and why it mattersWhy AI infrastructure—not applications—will drive returns near termHow electrification, energy transmission, and power are the next frontierThe importance of real diversification as mega-cap concentration growsLessons from launching IndexIQ and building successful ETF families Chapters02:00 – From Fortune Indexes to founding IndexIQ03:46 – The early ETF era and selling to New York Life05:33 – Launching VettaFi and meeting Tesla’s former president06:50 – Building smarter AI ETFs with industry experts08:37 – Mapping AI’s supply chain: the “bill of materials” approach10:11 – AI infrastructure vs. applications: where the profits are11:19 – Power problem: generation vs. transmission opportunity15:23 – Early innings of the AI supercycle17:19 – Quantum computing, AI synergy, and what’s next18:22 – Overlapping supercycles: AI, robotics, biotech, and space23:14 – Inside VettaFi’s ETF families: growth, options income, tactical alpha25:33 – Options income strategies and building stability26:17 – High-beta exposure and the “WILD” ETF30:49 – Diversification, multifactor strategies, and position sizing31:40 – Growing investor interest in options income32:28 – Innovation pipeline: what’s next for ETFsGuest: Adam Patti, CEO and Co-Founder of VettaFiHosts: Jim Worden, CFA, CMT, CAIA Follow usLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-wealth-consulting-group/X (Twitter): @WealthCGYouTube: @thewealthconsultinggroup Making Life Better at The Wealth Consulting GroupSubscribe for advisor-first insights and resources: bit.ly/wealthcg For advisor use only. | — | ||||||
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