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The Mission Generation: A Conversation with Arun Gupta on Reclaiming Purpose and Rebuilding the Future.
May 4, 2026
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Leadership Stories from the Edge of Uncertainty: A Conversation with Pete Behrens
Apr 27, 2026
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Transforming the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs: A Conversation with Deputy Secretary Dr. Paul Lawrence
Apr 20, 2026
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Reforming the Human Services Safety Net: A Conversation with Clarence Carter, Commissioner, Tennessee Department of Human Services
Apr 13, 2026
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Reimagining Government: Achieving the Promise of AI
Apr 6, 2026
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| 5/4/26 | The Mission Generation: A Conversation with Arun Gupta on Reclaiming Purpose and Rebuilding the Future. | What is the “Mission Generation”? What motivates talented professionals to pursue careers in public service today? How can government attract and empower a new generation of leaders who want their work to have purpose and impact? Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with Arun Gupta, co-author The Mission Generation: Rewrite Success, Reclaim Your Purpose, Rebuild Our Future. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 4/27/26 | Leadership Stories from the Edge of Uncertainty: A Conversation with Pete Behrens | What if the biggest leadership challenge today isn’t strategy, talent, or even technology? What if it’s uncertainty. Why are traditional leadership models breaking down? What is the difference between leading with authority and leading with trust? Why, in today’s environment, is leadership less about control and more about courage. Join host Michael J.Keegan as he explores these questions and more with Pete Behrens, author of Into the Fog: Leadership Stories from the Edge of Uncertainty. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 4/20/26 | Transforming the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs: A Conversation with Deputy Secretary Dr. Paul Lawrence | What does it take to lead one of the largest and most complex service organizations in the federal government? What are the VA’s most urgent priorities? How is VA reducing its claims backlog? What will it take to get electronic health record modernization right? Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with Dr. Paul Lawrence, Deputy Secretary at the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 4/13/26 | Reforming the Human Services Safety Net: A Conversation with Clarence Carter, Commissioner, Tennessee Department of Human Services | What would it take to redesign it for outcomes, not just compliance? How is Tennessee leveraging data, digital tools, and emerging technologies like AI to transform the delivery of human services? What can we learn from the new book, Our Net Has Holes In It? Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with Clarence Carter, Commissioner, Tennessee Department of Human Services and author of Our Net Has Holes In It. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 4/6/26 | Reimagining Government: Achieving the Promise of AI | What does an AI-enabled government look like? How is AI already transforming government operations today? How should government agencies measure real progress, and when is rapid leapfrogging beneficial vs. risky? Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions with authors Faisal Hoque and Erik Nelson. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 3/30/26 | Exploring Government that Works | How can leaders move their organizations toward sustained improvement? Why are results-driven reforms are so fragile? What makes them endure? Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 3/23/26 | Genius at Scale: How Great Leaders Drive Innovation at Scale. | How do great leaders drive innovation at scale? What are the ABCs of leading innovation? How can government executives navigate AI governance, interagency modernization, and cross-sector partnerships? Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with Jason Wild, co-author of the book Genius at Scale: How Great Leaders Drive Innovation at Scale.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 3/16/26 | Transforming Federal Hiring & Modernizing the Workforce: A Conversation with Scott Kupor, Director, U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM) | What are the strategic priorities the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM)? How is OPM working to modernize the U.S. federal HR systems? What is it doing to streamline hiring, shift to a skills-based talent management, and what will it take to build the workforce of the future? Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with Scott Kupor, Director of the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM). See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 3/9/26 | Leadership Lessons on Navigating Disruption | Join host Michael Keegan as he explores critical insights on leadership, disruption, and transformation. He explores the work and research of thought leaders who offer strategies on how to navigate uncertainty, embrace change, and drive transformation in an era where disruption is accelerating. Through their own words, we'll explore the mindsets, strategies, and courage required to lead in the unknown.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 3/2/26 | The Science of Leadership: Nine Ways to Expand Your Impact | What is the “science of leadership”? Why is it important to distinguish between self-oriented, other-oriented, and system-oriented leadership? How should leaders navigate modern challenges such as the rise of AI or economic uncertainty? Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with Margaret Moore, co-author of THE SCIENCE OF LEADERSHIP: Nine Ways to Expand Your Impact.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
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| 2/23/26 | Leading in the Age of Generative AI and Exponential Technology: A Conversation with Andrea Bonime-Blanc | How do we govern in a world where technology is no longer evolving in steps… but exploding exponentially? How do we harness their upside while managing their risks? How do we lead in a world where innovation moves at the speed of light, but trust and institutions move more slowly? Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with Andrea Bonime-Blanc, author of Governing Pandora: Leading in the Age of Generative AI and Exponential Technology.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 2/16/26 | Embedding Strategic Foresight into Strategic Planning: A Conversation with Professor Bert George. | What exactly is strategic foresight? And how can it be effectively integrated into planning and management to help organizations think, act, and learn more strategically? Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with Prof. Bert George, author of the IBM Center report Embedding Strategic Foresight into Strategic Planning and Management. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 2/9/26 | Leveraging AI in Local Government: A Conversation with Micah Gaudet, Deputy City Manager, City of Maricopa, Arizona. | What does an "AI-ready culture" look like in city government? What are the common cultural barriers to AI adoption? How does AI create efficiencies in city operations? How should local government leaders evaluate AI vendors and their promises? How do you ensure accountability when AI systems are involved in public safety or other critical city services? Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with Micah Gaudet, Deputy City Manager, City of Maricopa, Arizona and a nationally recognized voice on applied AI in local government next week on The Business of Government Hour.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 2/2/26 | Epic Disruptions: A Conversation with Professor Scott Anthony | What are the most common misconceptions about disruption, and why does getting the definition right matter for government leaders? How can leaders distinguish between genuine failures and innovations that are simply ahead of their time? What are the societal downsides of disruption that leaders need to actively manage. Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with Prof. Scott D. Anthony, author of Epic Disruptions: 11 Innovations That Shaped Our Modern World on The Business of Government Hour.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 1/26/26 | Government That Works: A Conversation with John M. Bernard. | What if the real question isn’t whether government is working hard—but whether it is actually improving people’s lives? How can leaders move their organizations toward sustained improvement? Why are results-driven reforms are so fragile—and what makes them endure? Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with John M. Bernard, author of Government That Works: The Results Revolution in the States and founder of America’s Pulse.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 1/12/26 | Reflections on Public Service with former Comptroller General of the US, Gene Dodaro | Gene joins host Michael J. Keegan on The Business of Government Hour for final conversation on his public service journey, the accomplishments that shaped GAO’s modern identity, and the challenges that lie ahead for the US federal government. He offers insights on the persistent vulnerabilities still facing government, the importance of public sector leadership, and advice he has for his successor and the next generation of public servants.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 1/5/26 | The Art of Leadership: A Conversation on Leadership, Resiliency, & Mindset | What are the key qualities of an effective leader? What does it mean to lead in difficult and uncertain times? Join host Michael Keegan as he explores these questions and more with a select group of recognized thought leaders: Jacqueline Carter, Michael Canic, Chester Elton, and Bob Rosen.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 12/29/25 | The Collective Edge: A Conversation with Prof. Colin Fisher | What are group dynamics—and why do they matter for leaders? How can understanding them help build stronger, more effective teams? And what are the practical strategies leaders can use to unlock the full potential of their groups? Join host Michael J. Keegan as I he explores these questions and more with, Colin M. Fisher author of The Collective Edge: Unlocking the Secret Power of Groups. Tune in for insights on how leaders can harness group dynamics to foster collaboration, creativity, and high performance—only on The Business of Government Hour. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 12/22/25 | Transforming Transportation with a focus on Safety and Innovation: A Conversation with Steve Bradbury, Deputy Secretary, U.S. Department of Transportation. | What are the key strategic priorities for the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT)? How is DOT putting safety and modernization first across all modes of transportation from road to Air Traffic Control? What does the future hold for the U.S. Department of Transportation? Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with Steven Bradbury Deputy Secretary, U.S. Department of Transportation. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 12/15/25 | Developing Effective Human and AI Leadership | What is the The PinLeader Path? How can insights from The PinLeader Path help leaders communicate their vision and build trust across these groups? What strategies can government agencies use to identify and nurture future leaders. Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with Dr. Shanda Gore author The PinLeader Path: Identify, Engage, and Develop Effective Human and AI Leadership for Your Organizational CultureSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 12/8/25 | Reflections on Public Service: A Conversation with David Lebryk. | What leadership lessons can be gained from 33 years of federal services? What are the biggest barriers to building a more citizen-centric federal government? What must we do to better prepare future public leaders—both political and career—for the complexity of governing? Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with Dave Lebryk, the former Fiscal Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Department of the Treasury on this special edition of The Business of Government Hour -- Reflections on Public Service. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 12/1/25 | Regional Focus and National Impact: Champion Excellence in State Government with David Adkins. | What is the mission of the Council of State Governments? How does this organization champion excellence in state government? And What are some of its flagship programs and initiatives? Join hosted host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with David Adkins, Executive Director, Council of State Governments on this Special Edition of The Business of Government Hour - The National Academy of Public Administration - National Conference Series. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 11/24/25 | Advancing Excellence in Government Finance: A Conversation with Chris Morrill | What is the mission of the Government Finance Officers Association (GFOA) of the US & Canada? How does it contribute to improved government finance and management? What are some of GFOA's flagship programs and initiatives? Join hosted host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with Chris Morrill, Executive Director Government Finance Officers Association (GFOA) of the US & Canada on this Special Edition of The Business of Government Hour The National Academy of Public Administration - National Conference Series. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
| 11/17/25 | The Science of Leadership: Nine Ways to Expand Your Impact – A Conversation with Margaret Moore. | What is the “science of leadership”? Why is it important to distinguish between self-oriented, other-oriented, and system-oriented leadership? How should leaders navigate modern challenges such as the rise of AI or economic uncertainty? Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with Margaret Moore, co-author of THE SCIENCE OF LEADERSHIP: Nine Ways to Expand Your Impact.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. | — | ||||||
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