The Corporate Couch: Work Stories I Only Tell My Friends

What does it take to turn a company losing millions into a high-performing organization with hundreds of millions in revenue? Ron Cox (see bio below) has lived that story. But his leadership journey started long before the turnaround. In this episode of *The Corporate Couch*, Ron shares a powerful story of resilience, reinvention, and purpose. He opens up about overcoming deep personal hardship, including childhood abuse, serious health challenges, and a moment in his life when he nearly gave up completely. Those experiences didn’t break his desire to lead.They shaped it. Ron went on to spend nearly 40 years helping organizations grow, adapt, and win. As the former CEO of The Kincaid Group, he helped lead an extraordinary turnaround, moving the company from a $2.5 million loss to roughly $320 million in revenue while building a culture rooted in performance, accountability, and execution. We talk about: • Turning pain into purpose• Leading a company through a dramatic turnaround• Why accountability only works when people know you care• How Stephen Covey’s principles shaped his coaching and leadership• What it takes to turn big vision into real-world execution• Why developing people is the real work of leadership Ron also shares lessons from entrepreneurship, city development, education, executive coaching, and his current work through RC Development Solutions, where he helps leaders and teams turn ideas into action. This is a conversation about survival, service, leadership, and leaving people and organizations better than you found them. If you care about resilience, growth, culture, or what it really takes to lead through adversity, this episode delivers. This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff. About Ron: ​​Ron Cox is a seasoned executive, entrepreneur, and leadership coach who has spent nearly 40 years helping organizations grow, adapt, and win. As CEO of RC Development Solutions, he works with leaders and teams to turn big vision into real-world results.​ Ron previously led The Kincaid Group through an incredible turnaround—taking the company from a $2.5M loss to roughly $320M in revenue—while building a culture focused on performance and accountability. His career spans both the public and private sectors, including nationally recognized work in city development and education. Along the way, Ron has coached leaders using principles from Dr. Stephen Covey, collaborated with influential business figures, and authored an Amazon best-selling book. At his core, he’s passionate about developing people, creating opportunities, and leaving organizations better than he found them.

What’s the one question a former Federal Reserve President gets asked at every happy hour? “What’s the Fed going to do with interest rates?” According to my guest, Esther George (see bio below)… the honest answer is: “Yes.” In this episode of The Corporate Couch, Esther, former President and CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City and a voting member of the Federal Open Market Committee, pulls back the curtain on the decisions that quietly shape the economy…and our everyday lives. But this isn’t just about economics. It’s about perspective. Esther shares a remarkable journey from growing up on a sixth-generation farm in rural Missouri (with a graduating class of just 50 students) to helping guide the U.S. economy through some of its most turbulent moments. We talk about: • Why inflation feels like “Jaws”… and who it impacts the most• The biggest misconception people have about the Federal Reserve• What it was like leading through the 2008 financial crisis and the COVID pandemic• How innovation, digital payments, and AI are reshaping the financial system• Why the future of finance may be more accessible… but also more concentrated• Her advice to young professionals: think big, but don’t expect a straight line We also shift gears to her role helping Kansas City prepare to host the 2026 FIFA World Cup matches—what it takes to bring a global event to a “smaller” market, the leadership required to align an entire region, and why the real impact may be the long-term relationships and opportunities that come after the final whistle. Esther also shares powerful leadership lessons from sitting across the table with failing banks, working alongside figures like Paul Volcker and Ben Bernanke, and leading through moments when the stakes couldn’t have been higher. This is a conversation about leadership, humility, decision-making under uncertainty, and the ripple effects of choices that impact millions of people… from interest rates to international stages. This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff. About Esther: Esther L. George was president and chief executive officer of the Federal Reserve Bank of​ Kansas City and a member of the Federal Open Market Committee from 2011 to 2023. Her Fed service spans more than 40 years, including considerable experience as a bank supervisor. In​ 2009, she served as the Federal Reserve’s acting director of Banking Supervision and Regulation in Washington, D.C.​ George was actively involved in the Federal Reserve’s work to ensure the smooth and efficient functioning of the nation’s payment system, including leading the effort to establish instant retail payments known as the FedNow Service. She hosted the Kansas City Fed’s annual Jackson Hole​ Economic Policy Symposium. As president and chief executive officer, she led a workforce of 2,100 at the Federal Reserve employees serving the seven states of the Tenth Federal Reserve District through the Bank’s headquarters in Kansas City and its branch offices in Denver, Oklahoma City, and Omaha. George is a recipient of the 2023 Harry S. Truman Public Service Award. She currently serves as chair of the Ewing Marion Kauffman

In this April edition of It’s 5 O’Clock Somewhere, Marc Shaffer and I have another happy hour-style conversation about what’s working, what we’re learning, and why playing the long game matters. Marc shares the shocking secret behind his zero calcium heart score: Mountain Dew and Skinny Pop. Medical professionals may disagree. We also talk about: • The incredible success of Run for the Roses and Growing Futures• Health, walking, mobility, and meditation• New connections through The Table KC• Golf plans, baseball stadium debates, and future live podcast recordings from local restaurants• Celebrating 50 years of Searcy Financial and Marc’s 20-year milestone Good people. Good stories. Good reminders about what matters. Grab a drink. It’s five o’clock somewhere. This episode is brought to you by Searcy Financial. Your financial future begins with a simple question: Where do you want to be? At Searcy Financial, we help successful individuals and families through our mission to simplify your financial journey, empowering you to enjoy life and wealth on your terms. The question sparks a conversation that goes beyond numbers, helping us understand what truly matters to you and the kind of financial plan that aligns with your life goals. It also allows us to identify potential challenges and opportunities so we can proactively address them. The outcome is a plan that empowers you to acquire, grow, and preserve your wealth. Searcy Financial is gearing up to celebrate 50 years of service. Don’t miss out on any of the excitement! To sign up for information on Marc’s book, “One for All,” including where to buy and exclusive website content, or to sign up for the Searcy Financial Wealth Matters email newsletter, use the links below: - Marc's Book "One for All": Keep Me Updated! - "Wealth Matters" newsletter: Sign Me Up! The opinions expressed herein are those of certain Searcy Financial Services, Inc. personnel and are subject to change without notice. The opinions referenced are as of the date of publication and are subject to revision due to changes in the market or economic conditions and may not necessarily come to pass. Any opinions, promotion, endorsement, projections, or forward-looking statements expressed herein are solely those of the author, may differ from the views or opinions expressed by other areas of the firm, and are only for general informational purposes as of the date indicated. Searcy Financial Services, Inc. was not compensated, nor are there material conflicts of interest that would affect the given statement.

What do Ironman races, bourbon barrels, and billion-dollar investment funds have in common? Brian Rosen. In this episode of The Corporate Couch, Brian (see his bio below) shares a wildly entertaining and insightful journey through three generations of the adult beverage industry from his grandfather’s Chicago saloon days (with some “alleged” connections you’ll want to hear about) to building one of the most sophisticated investment platforms in the space today. Brian is the General Partner of InvestBev, where he’s turned a lifetime in the business into a powerhouse platform managing nearly a billion dollars across equity, credit, and insurance strategies. But his story is anything but traditional. We talk about: • Why Brian believes in going “full” at everything (including Ironmans and leadership)• How a $5 million bourbon barrel bet turned into a $19 million return• The truth about celebrity tequila brands (and why most don’t work)• What’s really happening with alcohol consumption, cannabis beverages, and the future of drinking• The biggest misconceptions people have about the industry. Brian also shares incredible stories from his early days hustling in Chicago bars, building a $100M family business, and the eye-opening moment at PwC when he realized corporate life wasn’t for him. Along the way, you’ll hear his unfiltered take on leadership, including why failure is your best teacher and how great leaders let their teams own the spotlight. This is a conversation about grit, reinvention, and seeing opportunity where others don’t. And yes…we also cover tequila, gummies, and why moderation might be the biggest shift in the entire industry. If you like business stories with a little attitude and a lot of insight, this one delivers. This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff. About Brian: Brian Rosen is a third-generation veteran of the adult beverage industry and the General Partner of InvestBev, the largest private equity platform dedicated exclusively to spirits and beverage alcohol. Under his leadership, InvestBev has grown into a global powerhouse, managing over $500 million in assets across equity, credit, and insurance strategies. Brian is known for thinking differently. He pioneered a bourbon barrel arbitrage strategy that’s delivered top-tier returns for nearly a decade and helped redefine spirits as a legitimate alternative asset class. Before InvestBev, he built and ran a $100 million retail liquor business, served as a partner at PwC, and worked with industry giants like Anheuser-Busch. A frequent keynote speaker and recognized industry leader, Brian has been featured in Forbes, CNN, and Wine Spectator, and has earned multiple honors, including Retailer of the Year and Wine Innovator of the Year. Bottom line: if there’s a smarter way to build value in the spirits world, Brian’s probably already figured it out.

What if the way you’ve been leading…is exactly what’s holding your team back? My guest, Robin Ferguson (see her bio below), has spent more than two decades helping high-achieving leaders make a powerful shift, from pressure-filled management to a more intentional, empowering coaching style. As a Master Certified Coach (the highest credential in the field), Robin doesn’t deal in surface-level advice. She helps leaders cut through the noise, challenge the stories they’ve been telling themselves, and lead with clarity, confidence, and real impact. This conversation goes beyond leadership theory and into the moments that actually define how we show up. We talk about: • Why many high performers struggle when they step into leadership• The hidden cost of leading through pressure, urgency, and control• How to shift from “having the answers” to asking better questions• What it means to break free from limiting narratives• The mindset behind her Phoenix Effect framework and personal transformation Robin brings a rare blend of strategic insight, real-world leadership experience, and coaching precision that makes you stop and think… and then rethink how you lead. This is a conversation about letting go of old habits, stepping into your authority, and creating the kind of impact that lasts. If you’ve ever felt the pressure to have it all figured out, this episode might change how you think about leadership entirely. This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff. About Robin: ​​Robin Ferguson is a Master Certified Coach, speaker, and author who helps high-achieving leaders cut through the noise and unlock real impact. With over 20 years of experience across executive leadership, healthcare, and consulting, she’s known for helping leaders move from pressure-filled management to a more intentional, empowering coaching style. Robin holds the prestigious Master Certified Coach (MCC) credential from the International Coaching Federation, the highest global standard in coaching. Her work blends strategic leadership, clinical precision, and organizational insight to help leaders break free from limiting narratives and lead with clarity and confidence. She’s also the author of The Phoenix Effect, a powerful framework for personal transformation that challenges leaders to rise, reclaim their authority, and create lasting change.

In this March edition of It’s 5 O’Clock Somewhere, Marc Shaffer and I are back with another happy hour-style conversation where business, life, and Kansas City culture all collide. We kick things off with Marc rescheduling our recording…for a TV appearance. I’ve officially been bumped. But it leads to a bigger conversation about visibility, promoting causes that matter, and the growing momentum behind Run for the Roses supporting the not-for-profit Growing Futures. Along the way, we cover: -A job candidate who flew himself to Kansas City for a chance meeting and got hired-Why younger professionals are thinking more entrepreneurially-Kansas City BBQ rankings (yes, Joe’s vs. Q39)-The power of relationships and reflecting on legacy-Health, continuous learning, and why growth never stops. We wrap with what really matters: family, fresh air, and T-ball season. Grab a drink. It’s five o’clock somewhere. This episode is brought to you by Searcy Financial. Your financial future begins with a simple question: Where do you want to be? At Searcy Financial, we help successful individuals and families through our mission to simplify your financial journey, empowering you to enjoy life and wealth on your terms. The question sparks a conversation that goes beyond numbers, helping us understand what truly matters to you and the kind of financial plan that aligns with your life goals. It also allows us to identify potential challenges and opportunities so we can proactively address them. The outcome is a plan that empowers you to acquire, grow, and preserve your wealth. Searcy Financial is gearing up to celebrate 50 years of service. Don’t miss out on any of the excitement! To sign up for information on Marc’s book, “One for All,” including where to buy and exclusive website content, or to sign up for the Searcy Financial Wealth Matters email newsletter, use the links below: - Marc's Book "One for All": Keep Me Updated! - "Wealth Matters" newsletter: Sign Me Up! The opinions expressed herein are those of certain Searcy Financial Services, Inc. personnel and are subject to change without notice. The opinions referenced are as of the date of publication and are subject to revision due to changes in the market or economic conditions and may not necessarily come to pass. Any opinions, promotion, endorsement, projections, or forward-looking statements expressed herein are solely those of the author, may differ from the views or opinions expressed by other areas of the firm, and are only for general informational purposes as of the date indicated. Searcy Financial Services, Inc. was not compensated, nor are there material conflicts of interest that would affect the given statement.

What does it take to turn a passion for homebrewing into one of Kansas City’s most recognizable hospitality brands? In this episode of The Corporate Couch, Jeff sits down with Matt Moore (see his bio below), founder of Martin City Brewing Company, to talk about entrepreneurship, community, and the journey from a single brewpub to a growing family of restaurants and hospitality concepts across the Kansas City metro. Matt’s story starts long before the first pint was poured. Growing up in a restaurant family connected to the iconic Jess & Jim’s Steakhouse, hospitality was always part of his DNA. After earning an accounting degree from UMKC and spending years around the restaurant business, a chance meeting with his future business partner while sailing on Lake Jacomo sparked an idea that would eventually become Martin City Brewing Company. Matt shares how that passion for homebrewing turned into the original Martin City pub in 2011, followed by the brewery next door in 2014, and how the brand has since expanded to multiple locations and concepts, including Martin Event Space, Love Coffee, Mission Farms, Blue Parkway, Station 7, Lenexa, South Plaza, and an upcoming Crossroads location. Jeff and Matt dive into:• The entrepreneurial leap from hobby to business• Why hospitality is ultimately about people and community• The challenges and opportunities of growing a local brand• How Kansas City’s culture has helped shape the Martin City story• The importance of staying authentic while expanding Along the way, Matt also shares stories from growing up in the restaurant world, lessons learned from scaling a business, and why building great experiences around food, beer, and community continues to drive everything he does. If you love entrepreneurship stories, local business success, or simply a great conversation about craft beer, pizza, and building something meaningful in your hometown, this episode delivers. This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff. About Matt: Matt Moore is the founder of Martin City Brewing Company, a Kansas City hospitality success story that has grown from a single brewpub to a family of brands serving the metro area. Born and raised in Kansas City, Matt grew up in the restaurant business​ (his family operates the iconic Jess and Jim's Steakhouse and RC's​). A former competitive soccer player with a deep love for hospitality, Matt's entrepreneurial journey began when he met his business partner while sailing on Lake Jacomo and discovered a shared passion for homebrewing. In 2009, he purchased what would become the original pub location, opening it in 2011 before parlaying those profits into building the brewery next door in 2014. Since then, Matt has expanded the Martin City Brewing Company family to include the Martin Event Space (2015), Love Coffee (2016), Mission Farms (2017), Blue Parkway in Lee's Summit (2019), Station 7 (2021), Lenexa (2022), and South Plaza (2025), with a Crossroads location launching in 2026. Matt has built a thriving local empire rooted in craft beer, community, and the Kansas City spirit.

What if the real competitive advantage in business isn’t strategy, hustle, or technology… but simply caring? In this Special Edition episode, Justin Ricklefs returns to the Corporate Couch to discuss his first book, Give A Damn: The Catalyst for Caring Companies. Justin shares how the book began as scribbles on napkins during a conversation with his wife in a Colorado saloon and turned into a powerful framework for building stronger teams and cultures. We talk about why care and commerce can coexist, the leadership lessons Justin learned during his time with the Kansas City Chiefs, and his “Firestarter Framework” built on Effort, Attitude, Curiosity, Compassion, Clarity, and Consistency. Because sometimes all it takes is one spark to change a culture. You can find Justin's great leadership book at all major bookstores - https://a.co/d/0dgtNw8m.

In this February edition of It’s 5 O’Clock Somewhere, Marc Shaffer and I pull up a couple of barstools and let you eavesdrop on a conversation that ranges from Kansas City networking rooms to Florida marinas, from Super Bowl parties to superhero costumes. We kick things off with our new Kansas City business community, “The Table,” a curated group of leaders focused not just on swapping business cards, but actually helping each other make money and grow. It’s intentional. It’s selective. And it’s already expanding our circles in ways that matter. From there, the stories start flowing: A college senior who read Marc’s book flew himself to Kansas City and offered to volunteer before even interviewing. A February walking meeting through I-Lan Park because “why sit inside?” The ripple effect of writing, speaking, and putting your ideas into the world. Super Bowl parties where no one really watches the game. X-Men marathons, Comic-Con possibilities, and why Wolverine might be the real MVP. We also talk about growth on multiple fronts. Marc’s firm is hiring ahead of demand to protect culture and service. He’s diving deeper into KPIs and strategic finance. I share what I’m reading, including lessons from entrepreneurs who built big, gave generously, and kept things simple. On the community front, we spotlight: The upcoming rebrand and Kentucky Derby fundraiser for Growing Futures. The Wabash Cannonball event. Worthy’s pop-up bar. And the ongoing power of connecting good people to good people. As always, this episode is less “corporate speak” and more happy hour honesty. What’s working. Who we’re meeting. What we’re reading. What we’re building. And how a little boldness, generosity, and consistency can compound in surprising ways. Grab your favorite beverage. It’s five o’clock somewhere. This episode is brought to you by Searcy Financial. Your financial future begins with a simple question: Where do you want to be? At Searcy Financial, we help successful individuals and families through our mission to simplify your financial journey, empowering you to enjoy life and wealth on your terms. The question sparks a conversation that goes beyond numbers, helping us understand what truly matters to you and the kind of financial plan that aligns with your life goals. It also allows us to identify potential challenges and opportunities so we can proactively address them. The outcome is a plan that empowers you to acquire, grow, and preserve your wealth. Searcy Financial is gearing up to celebrate 50 years of service. Don’t miss out on any of the excitement! To sign up for information on Marc’s book, “One for All,” including where to buy and exclusive website content, or to sign up for the Searcy Financial Wealth Matters email newsletter, use the links below: - Marc's Book "One for All": Keep Me Updated! - "Wealth Matters" newsletter: Sign Me Up! The opinions expressed herein are those of certain Searcy Financial Services, Inc. personnel and are subject to change without notice. The opinions referenced are as of the date of publication and are subject to revision due to changes in the market or economic conditions and may not necessarily come to pass. Any opinions, promotion, endorsement, projections, or forward-looking statements expressed herein are solely those of the author, may differ from the views or opinions expressed by other areas of the firm, and are only for general informational purposes as of the date indicated. Searcy Financial Services, Inc. was not compensated, nor are there material conflicts of interest that would affect the given statement.

What do you get when you combine Division I basketball, 27 years in the U.S. Air Force, a PhD in Organization Development, and a passion for helping small businesses become profitable? You get Dr. Russ Barnes (see his bio below). In this episode, I reconnect with my former Manhattan College dorm mate, now retired Air Force Colonel, strategist, author, and founder of Systro Solutions, for a wide-ranging conversation about leadership, preparation, resilience, and what it really takes to build a profitable business. Russ shares: What it was like flying B-52 missions and graduating from the Air Force’s elite Weapons School How being an introvert shaped his leadership style and ultimately became a strength The lesson a senior officer gave him that transformed his career: “Do your homework.” Why most small business owners struggle before profitability, and how strategy, not hustle, changes the game We also talk about his unlikely first post-military venture, repairing leather and vinyl, the evolution into organization design, and why helping small businesses succeed is really about strengthening communities. If you care about leadership, lifelong learning, economic impact, or simply doing meaningful work at a high level, this conversation delivers. This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff. About ​Russ: ​Colonel (retired) Dr. Russ Barnes is Chief Strategist at​ Systro Solutions, an organization design firm specializing in small businesses. His 30+ years of experience in organization development are drawn from military service, franchise ownership, academic programs, and strategy consulting, specifically with small businesses. Russ is a best-selling author, speaker, podcaster, strategist, and lifelong learner. He is passionate about serving the community of military veterans and currently contributes as a Director of Education on the​ Action Zone Board of Directors and a course facilitator supporting the mission to help veterans, military spouses, and dependents build profitable companies.​ Russ earned his Bachelor’s Degree from Manhattan ​College (NY), his​ MBA from Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, his Master of Science degree in Strategic Studies from Air University, and his PhD in​ Organization Development from Benedictine University.

Do you hate work meetings? Meetings consume more time than any other business process, and yet they’re often the most frustrating part of the workday. According to Rebecca Hinds (see her bio below), that’s not a coincidence. It’s a design problem. Rebecca is a leading expert on organizational behavior and the future of work, with deep experience at the intersection of research, technology, and real-world execution. In this conversation, she shares insights from her new book, Your Best Meeting Ever: 7 Principles for Designing Meetings That Get Things Done. You will learn to rethink your meetings radically. We talk about how her background as a Division I swimmer at Stanford shaped her views on team dynamics, why meetings should be treated like a product, and how organizations unintentionally sabotage themselves with outdated collaboration habits. Rebecca also unpacks the human side of AI adoption, the challenges of hybrid work, and why most AI initiatives fail not because of technology, but because of people. You’ll hear about: Why inefficient meetings resemble a World War II sabotage tactic The “4D + CEO” test to decide whether a meeting should exist at all Why Return on Time Invested (ROTI) is a better metric than meeting satisfaction How hybrid and remote teams build culture intentionally Why empathy and systems thinking mattered during COVID Where AI is actually helping people work better and where it’s falling short How first-time managers can instantly raise their leadership impact This is a thoughtful, practical, and surprisingly fun conversation about how work really happens—and how leaders can redesign it to be more human, effective, and intentional. This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff. About ​Rebecca: Rebecca Hinds is a leading expert on organizational behavior and the future of work. She holds a BS, MS, and PhD from Stanford University. Rebecca founded the Work Innovation Lab at Asana and the Work AI Institute at​ Glean, first-of-their-kind corporate think tanks dedicated to conducting cutting-edge research on the future of work. Her research is consistently featured in top-tier publications and has appeared in places like Harvard​ Business Review, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, Fast​ Company, Wired, TIME, CNBC, Bloomberg, Axios, the Washington Post, and more. Rebecca has been invited to speak on major stages all across the world, including Dreamforce,​ SXSW, INBOUND, Ai4, Cloudfest, and the Gartner Digital Workplace Summit. She regularly appears on​ podcasts, webinars, and online education programs, including appearances on Adam Grant’s Worklife​ podcast, Deloitte’s Capital H podcast, and as an instructor for CNBC’s Make It Masterclass, “How to Use​ AI to be More Productive and Successful at Work.” She is a trusted advisor to companies navigating the challenges of modern work—from meeting overload and hybrid dysfunction to the messy realities of AI​ adoption and organizational change.

What if being a great leader isn’t about having all the answers, but about how people feel when they’re around you? In this episode, Jason Young (see bio below) joins me on The Corporate Couch for a wide-ranging, candid conversation about leadership, emotional intelligence, burnout, and why “likability” may be one of the most underrated leadership skills in business today. Jason shares stories from his early life, formative mentors, and unexpected career pivots that shaped his approach to leadership. We dive into the moments that changed his trajectory, including an unforgettable job interview that exposed a blind spot around emotional intelligence and ultimately became the catalyst for his work as a leadership consultant, speaker, and author. We also unpack ideas from his book The Likeable Leader, explore why burnout is not a badge of honor, and discuss how leaders can create cultures where people feel seen, valued, and motivated to follow. Along the way, Jason offers practical insights on mentoring, self-awareness, emotional regulation, and what it really means to lead in a people-first way. This episode is thoughtful, honest, and surprisingly fun, especially if you care about building teams people actually want to be part of. This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff. About ​Jason: Jason Young, PhD, is a leadership consultant, speaker, and author with more than 25 years of experience helping organizations and churches build thriving, people-first cultures. With doctoral degrees in hospitality and leadership, Jason is known for his practical, story-driven, and research-based approach to leadership, emotional intelligence, and team health.​ He has partnered with a wide range of clients, including Chick-fil-A, Delta Air Lines, Google, Procter & Gamble, Global Leadership Summit, North Point Ministries, and many other respected organizations, to design strategies that improve guest experience, build healthy leaders, enhance team engagement, and reduce burnout. His work includes keynotes, workshops, coaching, and consulting, all centered on creating psychologically safe, high-performing environments.

Frank Keck (see his bio below) believes leadership starts with being fully yourself and laughing a little more along the way. With over 25 years of experience helping leaders and teams communicate better, Frank blends humor, neuroscience, and real-world insight to show why people thrive when they feel seen, heard, and empowered. In this conversation, he shares how his journey from teaching Dale Carnegie courses to building a speaking career around “Embrace Your Freakness” shaped his approach to leadership and culture. We talk about why humor builds trust faster than titles, the danger of putting people into personality or generational boxes, and how leaders can better read the room and connect in real time. Frank also reflects on failure, authenticity, and why amplifying what makes people remarkable matters more than fixing what’s broken. This episode is thoughtful, funny, and practical, a reminder that great leadership doesn’t require perfection, just presence. This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff. About Frank: ​Frank Keck is a dynamic speaker, facilitator, and leadership expert who helps people and organizations unlock their full potential by being boldly and authentically themselves. With over 25 years of experience working with leaders, teams, and associations, Frank blends humor, neuroscience, and real-world strategy to create lasting impact. Whether he's teaching communication, collaboration, or confidence,​ Frank’s message is simple: when people feel seen and empowered, they thrive​ and so do the organizations they​ are part of.