From "America Is Evil" to American Exceptionalism: Lucy Biggers' Turnaround

From "America Is Evil" to American Exceptionalism: Lucy Biggers' Turnaround

From The Curious Middle by Polina & Yelena

November 18, 2025 · 48 min

About this episode

Lucy Biggers discusses her transformation from a climate activist to embracing American exceptionalism and the challenges of changing her views publicly.

In this episode, we speak with Lucy Biggers, head of social media at The Free Press a nd a former climate activist who has completely rethought the story she was telling the world and herself. Lucy shares how she went from a left-wing digital newsroom steeped in oppressor–oppressed ideology and climate doomsday content to slowly "re-educating" herself, especially after COVID lockdowns made her question what the climate movement was really asking of ordinary people. We talk about how smart, idealistic young people get pulled into movements, from climate activism to "Free Palestine" marches and democratic socialists like AOC and Zohran Mamdani, often in search of purpose, belonging, and someone to blame. Lucy walks us through the emotional cost of changing her mind in public, losing old followers, gaining new ones, and learning to stand on principle instead of group approval. We also go bigger: what's happening in our universities and K–12 schools, the rise of extreme voices on both the woke left and the conspiratorial right, and why Lucy still believes in American exceptionalism, free thinking, and the courage to say, "I was wrong" as an act of wisdom, not shame. The Free Press…

People in this episode

Hosts: Yelena, Polina

Guest: Lucy Biggers

Topics covered

  • American exceptionalism
  • climate activism
  • social media
  • public opinion
  • education

Keywords

  • re-education
  • emotional cost
  • woke left
  • conspiratorial right

Mentioned in this episode

Products: The Free Press

Books & works: America Is Evil

Places: America, Qatar

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