
From "America Is Evil" to American Exceptionalism: Lucy Biggers' Turnaround
From The Curious Middle by Polina & Yelena
November 18, 2025 · 48 min
About this episode
Lucy Biggers discusses her transformation from a climate activist to embracing American exceptionalism and the challenges of changing her views publicly.
In this episode, we speak with Lucy Biggers, head of social media at The Free Press a nd a former climate activist who has completely rethought the story she was telling the world and herself. Lucy shares how she went from a left-wing digital newsroom steeped in oppressor–oppressed ideology and climate doomsday content to slowly "re-educating" herself, especially after COVID lockdowns made her question what the climate movement was really asking of ordinary people. We talk about how smart, idealistic young people get pulled into movements, from climate activism to "Free Palestine" marches and democratic socialists like AOC and Zohran Mamdani, often in search of purpose, belonging, and someone to blame. Lucy walks us through the emotional cost of changing her mind in public, losing old followers, gaining new ones, and learning to stand on principle instead of group approval. We also go bigger: what's happening in our universities and K–12 schools, the rise of extreme voices on both the woke left and the conspiratorial right, and why Lucy still believes in American exceptionalism, free thinking, and the courage to say, "I was wrong" as an act of wisdom, not shame. The Free Press…
People in this episode
Hosts: Yelena, Polina
Guest: Lucy Biggers
Topics covered
- American exceptionalism
- climate activism
- social media
- public opinion
- education
Keywords
- re-education
- emotional cost
- woke left
- conspiratorial right
Mentioned in this episode
Products: The Free Press
Books & works: America Is Evil
Places: America, Qatar
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