The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro

Andy and Pedro discuss the comments by the Pope, Anthropic and various thinkers on AI's purpose, meaning, regulation and place in life now and in the future.

Shri Bhupathi, CEO/Co-Founder of Mill5 in Boston joins Andy and Pedro for a discussion about Agentic AI and its future impact on the economy, tech companies, data governance and scaling.

The guys welcome Ben Chapman the GC/CPO @ Swoop a fast growing provider of data used by companies large and small for pharma ad campaigns. Its a tricky space to navigate but Ben and Swoop are doing so in a very thoughtful, clear way.

A&P wrap up 2025 reflecting on AI growth and innovation. They also dive into the path towards potentially big shifts in 2026 and what we can expect or hope for from regulation.

After a summer break, A&P are back at it, discussing AI's impact on tech companies, lawyers and plicy teams. Pedro is moving soon, so this may be the last episode presided over by Tupac!!

A&P talk about their favorite things in work, life, privacy, tech, AI, snacks, books and more.

A&P chat with Keir Lamont, Senior Director of the Future of Privacy Forum’s U.S. Legislation team. In this role he supports research and independent analysis concerning federal, state, and local consumer privacy laws and regulations. Notably Keir releases updates on a fortnightly cadence on State and Federal Privacy Legislation and is one of the people most closely tracking development @ the state level. There may be no greater expert on the US “Patchwork” than Keir!

Andy and Pedro sit down with Chris Sands, former CMO of the L Suite (TechGC) to discuss his new role establishing a community based recruiting function and executive hiring in general.

Andy & Pedro sit down with Kathleen Patton, a GC who has literally seen it all and done it all in her impressive career. The convo targets some of the biggest issues when leading an IPO and M&A deals, but also touches on her style of confident leadership that all in-house lawyers ought to model and learn from. In addition to her stints inside companies, she also maintains a clear priority of family, friendships, mentorship and fun.

Andy & Pedro are joined by some great friends and incredible privacy/legal leaders Anne Bradley FPF fellow/startup advisors/founder and former Nike/Hulu CPO and Susan Rohol partner @ Willkie Farr and former Warner/Discovery CPO. We chat about hiring, mentoring and the challenges/rewards of both!

Andy and Pedro chat with their good friend Alan Chapell, longtime AdTech privacy lawyer and one of the key voices in the overlap between AdTech and competition law.

Nubiaa Shabaka combines a wealth of expertise in privacy/cybersecurity with a deep curiosity and love of learning/collaborating. It is a skill we have consistently seen in several big organization CPOs. And Nubiaa has had some of the biggest roles you can have in privacy/cyber at a mix of very complex organizations. Currently she is the VP, & Chief Cybersecurity Legal/Privacy Officer @ Adobe and was Chief Cybersecurity Legal/Privacy Officer @ American International Group (AIG) and in a similar leadership role @ Morgan Stanley. In addition to her day job, Nubiaa also works closely on Adobe’s Data Governance program and sits on its AI leadership groups.

Would you move for your dream job? Aaron Mendelsohn did, but not a simple move. He and his family relocated to Denmark when he got an opportunity to join the LEGO Group and help support its privacy journey. We rarely see a US lawyer going to Europe and its a fascinating story. Aaron loves the LEGO Group brand deeply (and so do we). Supporting a company and brand which you personally use and love often goes a long way in doing your best work!