
The Expansionist Podcast
by Shelly Shepherd and Heather Drake
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The Mary Magdalene Feast And A Revolution Of Love
Aug 12, 2026
18m 19s
Reclaiming Mary Magdalene In John 11
Aug 3, 2026
31m 20s
Mary Magdalene And An Unruly Table
Jul 30, 2026
27m 45s
Poetry As Prayer with guest Colette Lafia
Jun 13, 2026
46m 51s
Love Like A Mother With Elizabeth Berget
May 29, 2026
40m 27s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 8/12/26 | The Mary Magdalene Feast And A Revolution Of Love | Send us Fan Mail Mary Magdalene has been called a lot of things over the centuries, but the labels most people remember are often the ones that shrink her. We’re getting ready for her feast day by widening the lens and asking why so many of us feel, deep in our bones, that there’s more to her story and more to ours too. We talk about Mary Magdalene as a tower of wisdom, an initiate, a mystic, and an apostle whose spiritual authority keeps challenging the old rules about who gets to speak for... | 18m 19s | ||||||
| 8/3/26 | Reclaiming Mary Magdalene In John 11 | Send us Fan Mail A rose petal on a walking path feels small until you realize it’s a practice of witness. We start with a Mary Magdalene feast day ritual, praying names into petals, anointing with oil, and letting ordinary beauty become a sign that love is still alive and moving through our days. From that grounded place, we ask a destabilizing question: what if the story we inherited left out more than we knew? We talk about Elizabeth Schrader’s textual criticism research on the Gospe... | 31m 20s | ||||||
| 7/30/26 | Mary Magdalene And An Unruly Table | Send us Fan Mail Mary Magdalene doesn’t feel like a footnote when you finally let her stand where the text and the tradition say she belongs. We’re counting down to her feast day by talking about what it means to celebrate her in public and in practice, especially for those of us who grew up with only a small handful of church holidays and a much smaller view of women’s spiritual authority. We explore Mary as an invitation to embodied faith, the kind of knowing that comes from within and sta... | 27m 45s | ||||||
| 6/13/26 | poetryprayer+3 | Colette Lafia | — | — | poetryprayer+4 | — | 46m 51s | ||
| 5/29/26 | God's lovemotherhood+3 | Elizabeth Berget | — | — | Godmother+5 | — | 40m 27s | ||
| 5/20/26 | resurrectionhope+3 | — | Holy Spirit | — | resurrectionspirituality+3 | — | 35m 02s | ||
| 4/29/26 | mystical lifespirituality+3 | — | — | — | St. Catherine of Sienamystical life+4 | — | 28m 10s | ||
| 4/12/26 | resurrectiongrief+4 | — | — | — | resurrection storyEastertide+5 | — | 23m 00s | ||
| 3/26/26 | Lentfeminine wisdom+4 | — | — | — | Lentfeminine wisdom+5 | — | 36m 12s | ||
| 2/23/26 | spiritual ascentpersonal growth+3 | Lori Beth Jones | — | — | spiritual lifeframework+3 | — | 43m 54s | ||
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| 1/29/26 | wonderholy attention+4 | — | — | — | wonderholy attention+5 | — | 38m 11s | ||
| 1/20/26 | communionbelonging+4 | — | — | — | communionbelonging+5 | — | 33m 56s | ||
| 1/15/26 | sacred rhythmsawe+4 | — | — | — | lightjudgment+3 | — | 32m 26s | ||
| 1/7/26 | sacred objectsrepresentation+3 | Reverend Lori Brock | — | — | sacredgrace+5 | — | 41m 21s | ||
| 11/21/25 | hopemystery+4 | — | — | — | hopemystery+6 | — | 32m 22s | ||
| 11/15/25 | biblical interpretationspirituality+3 | Dr. Jennifer Garcia Bashaw | — | — | Bibleinterpretation+5 | — | 39m 30s | ||
| 10/24/25 | faitheternity+4 | — | — | — | eternityfaith+5 | — | 29m 30s | ||
| 10/4/25 | Radical Hospitality: Love, Equity, and the Longer Table | Send us Fan Mail A grandmother takes a door off its hinges to make the table longer. That simple act becomes our compass for a bold claim: hospitality isn’t a niche talent—it’s a spiritual practice that can transform how we love, listen, and live together. We trace radical hospitality from the kitchen table to the inner life, challenging the idea that it belongs only to those with perfect homes or to women trained to “host.” Instead, we make room for a fuller story where the feminine and masc... | 38m 42s | ||||||
| 9/28/25 | Radical Hospitality:The Path to Acceptance | Send us Fan Mail What does it truly mean to practice radical acceptance in a deeply divided world? This question sits at the heart of our conversation as we explore the challenging yet transformative path toward seeing the sacred in everyone. The journey begins with an uncomfortable truth—many of us struggle to extend true acceptance beyond those who think, believe, and live like we do. Yet the revolutionary power of radical love demands we go further. Through personal stories and theologica... | 39m 41s | ||||||
| 9/6/25 | How Changing Our Minds Creates a More Beautiful World | Send us Fan Mail Changing your mind might be the most revolutionary spiritual practice available to you right now. Heather and Shelly dive deep into the transformative power of mental flexibility and how it connects to the core teachings of Jesus. What happens when we allow ourselves to consider that our perspective might be incomplete? The hosts explore how Jesus repeatedly invited his followers to "repent" – literally to change their minds – and how this practice creates pathways for authe... | 31m 09s | ||||||
| 8/14/25 | Pray Like You Mean Freedom: with Liz Theoharis and Charon Hribar | Send us Fan Mail Prayer isn't just words whispered in sacred spaces—it's marching in the streets, demanding justice from those in power, and standing in solidarity with the marginalized. This revolutionary understanding of spirituality sits at the heart of "We Pray Freedom," a groundbreaking liturgical collection from theologians Liz Theoharis and Charon Hribar. The book reimagines prayer as "the work of the people" in its most authentic sense, featuring contributions from over 80 grassroots... | 51m 41s | ||||||
| 8/3/25 | Friendship Beyond Death: Mary Magdalene's Call | Send us Fan Mail Mary Magdalene beckons us beyond the twelve verses that mention her in scripture, inviting us into a profound reimagining of what it means to witness the divine. Shelley Shepard and Heather Drake explore this sacred friendship during Mary's feast week, diving into the transformative power of seeing resurrection through feminine eyes. What makes Mary's witness unique? The hosts suggest that witnessing isn't merely observing or repeating stories—it's embodying presence in vuln... | 27m 55s | ||||||
| 7/18/25 | Unveiling Mary Magdalene: Sensual Beauty And Sacred Rebellion | Send us Fan Mail What if Mary Magdalene's uncovered hair wasn't just a break from tradition, but a revolutionary act of spiritual and feminine liberation? As we approach Mary Magdalene's feast day on July 22nd, Shelley and Heather dive into one of the most overlooked yet profound aspects of her story – her hair. In ancient times, a woman's hair was simultaneously considered her "glory" and something to be hidden away from public view. The cultural mandate requiring women to cover their hair ... | 33m 35s | ||||||
| 7/10/25 | Mary Magdalene: A Path To Presence | Send us Fan Mail Could Mary Magdalene be a missing part of the Christ story? This question forms the heart of our exploration as we approach her feast day on July 22nd. While neither of us come from Catholic traditions, we recognize the profound wisdom in celebrating feast days that awaken our consciousness to spiritual truth—and Mary Magdalene holds truths too long overlooked. Mary represents a pathway to transformation that embraces feminine wisdom and embodied spirituality. When the... | 26m 58s | ||||||
| 7/2/25 | Ancient Remembering As A Spiritual Path | Send us Fan Mail Your intuition speaks, but are you listening? In this soul-stirring conversation, Shelley and Heather explore what they call "ancient remembering" – that profound sense of recognition when something resonates deep within us, awakening wisdom we've always possessed but somehow forgotten. The hosts navigate the delicate balance between external authority and inner knowing, exploring how many of us feel caught between obedience to religious rules and trust in our own sovereignt... | 30m 00s | ||||||
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