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Tiffany Muller, President of End Citizens United, "There’s a lot that could be done with a single vote of Congress."
Apr 26, 2026
35m 42s
Mehdi Hasan, Founder of Zeteo, "Telling people what they want to hear is not journalism."
Apr 19, 2026
48m 04s
Liz Shuler, President of the AFL-CIO, "The labor movement can be both a shield and a megaphone."
Apr 12, 2026
31m 06s
Aaron Bennett, Co-Founder of The Fly, "Relationships are the coin of the realm."
Apr 5, 2026
42m 14s
Richard Walters, Former RNC Chief of Staff and Senior Advisor, "Elections come down to pocketbook issues."
Mar 29, 2026
43m 10s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 4/26/26 | ![]() Tiffany Muller, President of End Citizens United, "There’s a lot that could be done with a single vote of Congress."✨ | campaign finance reformvoting rights+4 | Tiffany Muller | End Citizens UnitedLet America Vote | Washington | campaign financevoting rights+5 | — | 35m 42s | |
| 4/19/26 | ![]() Mehdi Hasan, Founder of Zeteo, "Telling people what they want to hear is not journalism."✨ | journalismindependent media+3 | Mehdi Hasan | ZeteoZateo+2 | GazaAmerica | ZeteoMSNBC+3 | — | 48m 04s | |
| 4/12/26 | ![]() Liz Shuler, President of the AFL-CIO, "The labor movement can be both a shield and a megaphone."✨ | labor movementAFL-CIO+6 | Liz Shuler | the AFL-CIOAFL-CIO | — | Biden administrationTrump administration+3 | — | 31m 06s | |
| 4/5/26 | ![]() Aaron Bennett, Co-Founder of The Fly, "Relationships are the coin of the realm."✨ | relationship buildingspeechwriting+2 | Aaron Bennett | The Flythe Institute of Politics and Public Service | WashingtonD.C. | three M'smessage+2 | — | 42m 14s | |
| 3/29/26 | ![]() Richard Walters, Former RNC Chief of Staff and Senior Advisor, "Elections come down to pocketbook issues."✨ | Republican Party2026 midterm elections+8 | Richard Walters | RNCthe Republican Party's+1 | — | GOPcampaign cycle+1 | — | 43m 10s | |
| 3/22/26 | ![]() Jon Tester, Former U.S. Senator (D-MT), "Authenticity beats the slick politician every time."✨ | public servicepolitics+3 | Jon Tester | the U.S. Senate | U.S.Montana+2 | MontanaU.S. Senate+3 | — | 38m 36s | |
| 3/16/26 | ![]() Norah O'Donnell, CBS News Senior News Correspondent, "If you capture someone’s heart, you capture their mind."✨ | journalismwomen's history+1 | Norah O'Donnell | We the WomenCBS News+2 | — | 9/11October 7 attacks+3 | — | 29m 07s | |
| 3/1/26 | ![]() Stephen Martinko, TikTok's Global Head of Product Public Policy, "There aren’t Republican bridges or Democratic roads"✨ | TikTokpublic policy+2 | Stephen Martinko | TikTokGeorgetown's Institute of Politics and Public Service | — | RepublicanDemocratic+2 | — | 28m 49s | |
| 2/22/26 | ![]() Monica Popp, Former Chief of Staff to Senator John Cornyn (R-TX), "In this town, integrity is everything.”✨ | integritypolitics+1 | Monica Popp | Georgetown's Institute of Politics and Public Service | TX | — | — | 25m 21s | |
| 2/16/26 | ![]() Greg Landsman, Ohio United States Representative, 'You’ve got to kick in doors and overturn tables"✨ | CongressOhio politics+1 | Greg Landsman | CongressHill | OhioUnited States | swing seatPresident’s Day+1 | — | 27m 03s | |
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| 1/18/26 | ![]() Alsu Kurmasheva, Former Political Prisoner, "Sometimes in prison, the only thing I could control was my breath."✨ | political imprisonmentpress freedom+2 | Alsu Kurmasheva | The Unbearable Lightness of BeingSaying No to War+1 | Prague | breath controlprison conditions+2 | — | 38m 33s | |
| 12/22/25 | ![]() Ankit Jain, D.C. Shadow Senator, "We fought a revolution to prevent this” | Our latest episode is with Ankit Jain! Elected in 2024, Ankit Jain has served as the Shadow Senator for the District of Columbia and has stayed committed to advocating for statehood and expanding voting rights for DC. Before entering politics, Jain worked as a voting rights attorney and founded Young Democrats Ward 2 to encourage civil engagement in young people. Jain’s election as a shadow senator for D.C was historic as he was the first Asian-American and Indian-American elected to office in Washington, D.C. Listen more to hear everything there is to know about Congress from Ankit Jain! | — | ||||||
| 11/16/25 | ![]() Former Senator Laphonza Butler, "I'm Open to Every Opportunity" | Welcome back to another episode of the Fly on the Wall! Today, we welcome Former Senator Laphonza Butler on the podcast! Laphonza Butler is a former senator representing California, who Governor Gavin Newsom appointed to replace the late Senator Dianne Feinstein after her death in 2023. Born in Mississippi, Butler attended Jackson State University before beginning her career as a labor organizer. She has been actively involved in the United States labor movement throughout her public service career, serving as President of SEIU Local 2015 in Los Angeles, California. Before serving in Congress, former Senator Butler served as the president of Emily’s List which works to elect Democratic pro-choice women to government. Former Senator Butler has also been prominent in the private sector, working as Director of Public Policy for Airbnb. Former Senator Butler is a Fall 2025 GU Politics Fellow at Georgetown University and has hosted her weekly discussion groups on AI, Labor, and the Politics of the Future of Work, which she expands on in this must-listen-to podcast episode. | — | ||||||
| 11/10/25 | ![]() Jamelle Bouie, NYT Opinion Columnist, "The Constitution is Living" | Tune in to this week’s episode with a fellow podcaster, Jamelle Bouie! Co-host of his own podcast, Unclear and Present Danger, and columnist for the New York Times, Jamelle Bouie, provides perspective on history and politics. Before joining the Times, Bouie began his career at The American Prospect magazine and then became the chief political correspondent at Slate magazine. From receiving the Hillman Prize for Opinion & Analysis Journalism and being elected to the American Academy of Arts & Sciences, Bouie has shaped national conversations on democracy and race. Some of Bouie’s most recent articles for the Times include “They Don’t Want to Live in Lincoln’s America” and “This Administration Is Silencing Its Critics.” Listen to one of the most influential commentators in politics today as Bouie explores topics of the Constitution and the role of executive power in modern politics | — | ||||||
| 11/2/25 | ![]() Ambassador Mark Green, "I Don't Do Wish Projection" | Welcome back, flies! We hope you had a spook-tacular halloween 👻 🎃 This week we sat down with Mark Green, the former Ambassador to Tanzania. Green’s career has been nothing short of extraordinary. Green began his political career as a congressman for Wisconsin’s 8th congressional district, where he served as Assistant Majority Whip. During the second Bush administration, he worked to promote international development as the Ambassador to Tanzania. From 2017 to 2020, he served as the Administrator of USAID—leading its humanitarian aid efforts. As a malaria survivor, child of South African immigrants, and former school teacher in Kenya, Green brings a dynamic perspective to the table. TUNE IN to learn about his take on humanitarianism, free enterprise, and the Trump administration’s dismantlement of USAID. | — | ||||||
| 10/27/25 | ![]() Congressman Adam Smith (D-WA), "The Slow Walk Into an Authoritarian Government is Absolutely Happening" | Hi Flies, welcome back to Episode 5 of Season 18! On this episode, we have Congressman Adam Smith, a democrat from Washington state’s 9th district on the podcast. Representative Smith recently spoke at an event hosted by Georgetown’s Initiative for U.S-China dialogue, and discussed the U.S/China relationship and its importance. Representative Smith was born here in Washington, D.C and grew up in Washington State. In 1987, Congressman Smith graduated from Fordham University with a degree in political science and went back to Washington state to pursue his law degree at the University of Washington. After law school, Congressman Smith worked in both private and public law, notably practicing for Cromwell and Mendoza and Belur, before becoming a prosecutor and later a judge. At 25 years old, Mr. Smith was the youngest state senator ever elected, serving there until 1996 before being elected to Congress in 1997. Mr. Smith is currently the ranking member of the House Armed Services Committee and is a member of the New Democrat Coalition, as well as the Congressional Progressive Caucus. Notably, and related to this episode of the podcast, Mr. Smith created the bipartisan congressional caucus for effective foreign assistance to advocate for reforms in foreign aid. In this episode, Mr. Smith discussed U.S-China relations regarding his leading of the first United States House delegation to China in six years, U.S-China diplomacy, the airstrikes conducted by the Trump administration in the Caribbean, and Mr. Smith’s role being one of the first Democrats to call for President Biden to drop out of his 2024 campaign. This episode, which you can find on Spotify, is one you won’t want to miss out on! | — | ||||||
| 10/20/25 | ![]() Amy Howe, Author of SCOTUSblog, "The 64,000 Question" | Get ready for Episode 4 of Season 18! 🪰🪰 Listen to Georgetown University 2025 Fall Fellow Amy Howe! Amy Howe is an accomplished journalist and legal analyst, best known for her work SCOTUSblog. She is the co-founder of SCOTUSblog, where she helps break down complex Supreme Court decisions and is a leading voice on the intersection between law and public life. Before turning to journalism. Amy Howe has argued over two dozen merit cases before the Supreme Court and has taught at Harvard Law, Stanford Law School and American University’s Washington College of Law. Amy has covered the Court for more than a decade and has earned both a Peabody Award and a National Press Club Journalism Award for Breaking News! Tune in to get a behind-the-scenes at the Supreme Court and the life of a journalist! | — | ||||||
| 10/16/25 | ![]() Rob Flaherty, Deputy Campaign Manager, Joe Biden 2024, "You Don't get a Trophy for Cutting the Margins" | Welcome back to the Fly for our third episode of Season 18! Rob Flaherty is a Georgetown University Fall 2025 Fellow who is a leading political strategist. He previously served as Former Assistant to President Joe Biden, as well as his Director of Digital Strategy. When President Biden exited the presidential race in 2024, Flaherty took over as Deputy Campaign Manager for Harris for President in her historic 107 day battle for the White House. Flaherty is a 2013 graduate of Ithaca College, whose career in politics was sparked after watching West Wing and from there, joined local campaigns in New York. As a young professional, Flaherty also worked on Terry McAuliffe’s campaign for governor of Virginia. Later, Flaherty moved to the national stage where he became Presidential Candidate Beto O’Rourke’s Digital Director in 2020, Creative Director at Priorities USA, and Deputy Director of Digital Communications for Hillary for America. Flaherty runs a fellow’s discussion group currently titled "The Politics of Attention: Media, Campaigns, and Our Broken Information Environment.” Flaherty sat down with the Fly to discuss these topics and more, ranging from how he started in politics, his work in the White House and on the campaign trail, digital media strategy wins and losses, and how the traditional media and press has evolved, as well as its implications for the political landscape in the United States. This is a must-listen episode with many fun tid-bits and insights into the White House and digital media! | — | ||||||
| 10/8/25 | ![]() Jamaal Bowman, Former U.S. Representative, "Imagine a Better World" | There is a big buzz in that air for Episode 2 of Season 18! Jamaal Bowman, former middle school principal turned US Representative for New York’s 16th Congressional District joined us for a special episode on activism. Before entering politics, Bowman founded Cornerstone Academy for Social Action, a middle school focused on a restorative justice approach for their students. In the 2020 Democratic primary, Bowman's defeat of 16-term incumbent, Eliot Engel, showed the strength of grassroot campaigning. Once in Washington, Bowman quickly became an influential progressive figure for his viewpoints on education, racial equity, and US foreign policy in Israel. Known for his authenticity and dedication to his community, Bowman was a key player in policies surrounding education and labor reform. In 2024, Bowman lost to pro-Israel candiate George Latimer in what was recorded as the most expensive House of Representives primary in US history. Since then, Bowman has launched the Built to Win PAC, and has used his platform to advocate for systemic change in education and human rights policy. Join us to hear a down-to-earth perspective on current political issues of education, the Israel-Gaza conflict, and labor reform. This is a must-listen episode for those interested in activism or a career in politics! | — | ||||||
| 9/22/25 | ![]() Trace Gallagher, Fox News @ Night Anchor, "When You Have Credibility, It's Everything" | Welcome back, Flies! For the first episode of Season 18, we met with a special guest: FOX News original Trace Gallagher! Gallagher has been a member of FOX News since its creation in 1996. Gallagher is an anchor and Chief Breaking News Correspondent for “FOX News @ Night,” where approximately 1.5 million households watch his reporting each night. He is truly an international expert, having reported on everything from the Israel-Hamas war to the second inauguration of President Trump. Tune into this episode to hear Gallagher’s insider scoop on White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt, Democratic heavyweight Gavin Newsom, and the key to success in broadcast journalism. Special thanks to Fly Team member Sarah for this great interview! | — | ||||||
| 5/8/25 | ![]() Don Graves, Former Dep. Sec. of Commerce, "We Have the Most Effective Government in the World" | Welcome back flies!! It’s the end of another great semester here at Georgetown which means it’s the season finale of The Fly! What a better way to end the season than with GU Politics Fellow Don Graves! Graves served as the 19th Deputy Secretary of Commerce under the Biden-Harris Administration from May 2021 to January 2025. He previously served as Counselor to President Biden during the 2020 campaign and held senior roles in the Obama-Biden Administration, including Executive Director of the President’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness and Deputy Assistant Secretary at the U.S. Department of the Treasury, where he oversaw programs like the CDFI Fund and the Small Business Lending Fund. Austin and Chloe spoke with Graves about the future of the federal workforce, the value of the private and public sectors, and Graves’ political experience in both Detroit and Puerto Rico. Graves also spoke on his experience drafting major policy like the CHIPS Act, and the importance of government accountability and results. This is a must-see season finale, so tune in! We’ve had so many great guests this season, and cannot thank everyone enough for coming onto the podcast this semester. See you all in the fall and have a great summer!! | — | ||||||
| 5/4/25 | ![]() Heather Nauert, Former State Department Spokesperson: "Newscasters Are At Their Best in a Crisis" | Hi Flies! Welcome back to a brand new episode! It’s finals season here at Georgetown, but that doesn’t mean we can’t give you a great new episode! This week, Abigail and Julian sat down with Heather Nauert, a Spring 2025 GU Politics Fellow. Nauert is a journalist and former spokesperson for the State Department. She began her career as a broadcast journalist, working for major outlets such as ABC News and Fox News, where she served as a correspondent and co-host of the morning show Fox & Friends. In 2017, she transitioned to public service, joining the U.S. Department of State as its Spokesperson under President Donald Trump. Join us for a fascinating conversation about Nauert’s transition from journalism to government, the impact of foreign correspondence, and changes in the Trump administration’s foreign policy in the second administration. Julian and Abby also discussed the impact of 9/11, her experience visiting North Korea, and so much more! This is a must-see episode, so make sure to take a listen! | — | ||||||
| 4/15/25 | ![]() Quentin Fulks, Principal Deputy Campaign Manager, Biden/Harris & Harris/Walz, "The Landscape is Changing" | Have you heard the buzz? We’re back with a brand new episode! This week, Chloe and Sarah sat down with one of the foremost American campaign managers and political strategists, Quentin Fulks! Quentin has played an instrumental role in the Democratic Party. He served as Principal Deputy Campaign manager for both the Biden/Harris and Harris/Walz 2024 presidential campaigns. He also led the successful 2022 reelection campaign of Georgia Senator Raphael Warnock, and helped flip Illinois from red to blue as Deputy Campaign Manager for Governor JB Pritzker in 2018. Tune in to hear Quentin’s reflections on the Harris/Walz presidential campaign and the Democratic Party’s next steps, and his advice for aspiring political operatives! | — | ||||||
| 3/31/25 | ![]() Tony Fabrizio, Chief Pollster, Donald Trump for President: 'Nothing Works Better Than a Candidate's Own Words' | Hello flies!! Welcome back to a brand new episode!! It’s cherry blossom season in D.C, and time for another great episode with an all-star guest!! This week, Kenneth and Julian sat down with Tony Fabrizio, a Spring 2025 GU Politics Fellow! Fabrizio was the Chief Pollster for Donald Trump for President in 2024, 2020, and 2016. He has helped elect Presidents and Prime Ministers on five continents. The flies discussed messaging for the 2024 campaign, the changing media landscape, and the most effective ads against the Harris campaign. This is a must- see episode so make sure to take a listen!! 🪰🪰🪰🌸🌸 | — | ||||||
| 3/17/25 | ![]() Cecilia Kang, NYT Technology Correspondent: 'Color, Color Color! Show, Don't Tell.' | Happy St. Patrick’s Day flies! Buzzing in with a brand new episode, just as lucky as a pot of gold ☘️Join Abigail and Chloe as they sit down with Cecilia Kang, an award-winning Technology Correspondent at The New York Times, with unique expertise in the intersection of technology and public policy. She has broken news that led to regulatory investigations into Apple, Google, and Amazon, and interviewed top executives such as Tim Cook, Sheryl Sandberg, and Reed Hastings. Cecilia has over 20 years of experience in journalism, covering U.S. and international technology, economics, and business news. Curious to know what America’s best defense against AI could be? Tune in to hear Kang’s approach to translating complex technology issues for broad audiences, as well as the global race to dominate artificial intelligence. 🪰🎤 | — | ||||||
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