The Gaggle: An Arizona politics podcast
by The Arizona Republic and azcentral.com
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How Trump's economy is affecting Arizona's tourism
Jun 24, 2026
43m 28s
Outspoken: Meet the Revolution's artists, spies and other unheralded patriots
Jun 23, 2026
17m 58s
Outspoken: This is what inspired colonists to rally for liberty
Jun 21, 2026
18m 36s
Outspoken: This is why education always must strive to be inclusive
Jun 19, 2026
16m 35s
Trump tax cuts to data centers: Inside the $18B budget
Jun 17, 2026
25m 12s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 6/24/26 |  How Trump's economy is affecting Arizona's tourism | It's something we can all feel right now at the gas pump, the aisles of the grocery store and just about anywhere you spend money: prices are high. President Donald Trump's foreign tariffs and the war in Iran have put pressure on American consumers In addition, the administration's immigration crackdown and higher fees for foreign travelers have turned off tourists from other countries. This week on The Gaggle, we're joined by an economic expert for a state and nation wide look and the mayor of a small town near the Grand Canyon to talk about how the lack of foreign tourism is impacting them. Email us! thegaggle@arizonarepublic.com Leave us a voicemail: 602-444-0804 Follow us on X, Instagram and Tik Tok Guest: Jim Rounds, Mayor Clarinda Vail Hosts: Ron Hansen, Stephanie Murray Producer: Amanda Luberto Additional audio in this episode comes from C-SPAN Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 43m 28s | ||||||
| 6/23/26 |  Outspoken: Meet the Revolution's artists, spies and other unheralded patriots | As we move toward another Fourth of July, it feels especially urgent to revisit the American Revolution through the lives of people who rarely make it into our textbooks or monuments. Art historian Zara Anishanslin does exactly that by recasting the founding era through the artists — many of them women, enslaved people, and immigrants — who used art, espionage and activism to shape a new nation from unexpected places, including London. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 17m 58s | ||||||
| 6/21/26 |  Outspoken: This is what inspired colonists to rally for liberty | In my home, the founding era has long been a family affair — something talked through on early‑morning walks to school, road trips to historic sites, and debates about what the nation’s promises actually mean in practice for each new generation. That personal history is the backdrop for this Outspoken conversation with my son, Blake Burton, a financial crimes analyst and deeply read student of history and philosophy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 18m 36s | ||||||
| 6/19/26 |  Outspoken: This is why education always must strive to be inclusive | As president of Arizona State University since 2002 and the architect of what he calls a New American University, President Dr. Michael Crow has spent 2 decades trying to design a public institution that aligns itself with the country’s founding promise of government by and for the people — not by and for the already‑privileged few. In this Outspoken conversation, Crow argues that if America was born in conscious rejection of hereditary power, its universities should be just as intentional about breaking from the exclusionary, class‑bound traditions they inherited from Britain and Europe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 16m 35s | ||||||
| 6/17/26 |  Trump tax cuts to data centers: Inside the $18B budget | Gov. Katie Hobbs and the Arizona Legislature worked across the aisle for an $18 billion state budget. It includes the end of tax exemptions for data centers, nearly across the board cutbacks on state agencies, and implementing a historic tax cut that makes Arizona the first state to put President Donald Trump's tax cuts into action. This week on The Gaggle, we are joined by two state politics reporters for the Arizona Republic to break down what's inside, the most dramatic day of the session and what parts will impact Arizonans right away. Email us! thegaggle@arizonarepublic.com Leave us a voicemail: 602-444-0804 Follow us on X, Instagram and Tik Tok Guest: Stacey Barchenger, Ray Stern Hosts: Stephanie Murray Producer: Amanda Luberto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 25m 12s | ||||||
| 6/16/26 |  Outspoken: Why the Declaration and individual liberty remains essential | At the Goldwater Institute in Phoenix, the word "liberty" has a very specific meaning: the individual’s right to make the key choices in his or her own life without interference from the state. Timothy Sandefur, the institute’s vice president for legal affairs, is one of the clearest contemporary defenders of that vision. In this Outspoken conversation, we asked him how that understanding of liberty connects back to the Declaration of Independence — and where he thinks the country has drifted away from what Jefferson and his contemporaries had in mind. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 20m 49s | ||||||
| 6/14/26 |  Bonus: The Republicans running for Arizona's attorney general | Democratic incumbent Kris Mayes is seeking reelection as Arizona's attorney general this fall, but the Arizona Republican Party is searching for the right candidate to win them back the office in November. On their primary ballot, Republican voters have their choice between two contenders: current Arizona Senate President Warren Petersen and private attorney Rodney Glassman. In this bonus episode of The Gaggle, state politics reporter Stacey Barchenger walks you through the similarities and differences between the Republican candidates running for Arizona's attorney general for the chance to rival Mayes later this year. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 12m 18s | ||||||
| 6/12/26 |  Outspoken: How Indigenous people influenced the Founding Fathers✨ | Indigenous influenceFounding Fathers+3 | Donald Grinde Jr. | The Arizona Republicazcentral.com | — | Indigenous peopleFounding Fathers+5 | — | 17m 35s | |
| 6/10/26 |  What Mark Lamb's scandal means for the future of CD5✨ | Mark LambCD5+4 | Laura GersonyRobert Anglen | Arizona Republicazcentral.com | — | Mark LambDonald Trump+5 | — | 24m 24s | |
| 6/9/26 |  Outspoken: America's deep Latin roots are connected to Spanish support✨ | colonialismHispanic roots+4 | Felipe Fernández‑Armesto | Declaration of Independence | HavanaMadrid+2 | colonialismHispanic roots+5 | — | 16m 41s | |
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| 6/7/26 |  Outspoken: Why the Declaration contains the 'most important' sentence in history✨ | American historyDeclaration of Independence+3 | Joseph Ellis | Declaration | — | Declaration of IndependenceJoseph Ellis+3 | — | 17m 47s | |
| 6/5/26 |  Outspoken: In 1776, the Declaration of Independence was breaking news✨ | Declaration of IndependenceAmerican history+3 | — | Declaration of Independence | — | Declaration of Independence1776+3 | — | 16m 56s | |
| 6/3/26 |  Don Bolles’ legacy and press violence today✨ | press violenceDon Bolles+4 | Jeremy DudaRichard Ruelas+1 | Arizona RepublicFreedom of the Press Foundation | — | Don Bollespress violence+4 | — | 53m 18s | |
| 6/2/26 |  Outspoken: 'Deleted clauses' of the Declaration of Independence remain critical✨ | slaveryequality+3 | Holly Brewer | British EmpireThe Arizona Republic+2 | — | Declaration of IndependenceHolly Brewer+5 | — | 21m 26s | |
| 5/31/26 |  BONUS: The Republicans running for Arizona's CD 1✨ | Arizona politicsRepublican candidates+3 | — | The Arizona Republicazcentral.com+1 | — | ArizonaRepublicans+5 | — | 10m 34s | |
| 5/29/26 |  Outspoken: Why the Declaration of Independence is still "radical"✨ | Declaration of Independenceradical politics+4 | Rev. Byron Williams | Declaration of Independence | — | Declaration of Independenceradical+5 | — | 17m 47s | |
| 5/27/26 |  Why the Hobbs-Mayes feud could hurt Democrats in 2026✨ | Arizona politicsDemocrats+4 | Stacey Barchenger | The Arizona Republicazcentral.com | — | HobbsMayes+6 | — | 21m 27s | |
| 5/23/26 |  BONUS: The Democrats running for Arizona's CD 1 | Editor's Note: Since this podcast was recorded, candidates Victor Weintraub and Mark Robert Gordon have withdrawn from the race. Arizona Democrats have spent much of the past 16 years plotting how to oust Republican Congressman David Schweikert from Congressional District 1. 2026 is their best opportunity with Schweikert leaving to run for governor. Six Democrats are in the running to represent the left in the 2026 CD1 election. In this bonus episode of The Gaggle, we walk you through the similarities and differences between the people on your primary ballot. Email us! thegaggle@arizonarepublic.com Leave us a voicemail: 602-444-0804 Follow us on X, Instagram and Tik Tok Host: Laura Gersony Producer: Amanda Luberto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 11m 04s | ||||||
| 5/21/26 |  Outspoken: How the Declaration of Independence 'devastated' Native people | The first page of the Declaration of Independence gave the world a vocabulary for liberty that Americans still identify with. Near the end, though, he denounced "merciless Indian savages" whose undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions” supposedly justified colonial fears and violence. In this Outspoken conversation, we sit down with Arizona State University Professor David Martínez to ask how that language helped define U.S. policy toward Indigenous peoples, and what it would mean to face that legacy honestly on the Declaration’s 250th anniversary. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 21m 07s | ||||||
| 5/20/26 |  Mark Kelly’s future is fueling 2028 presidential buzz | Sen. Mark Kelly isn't just an Arizona name. He's a NASA astronaut, a veteran, a gun rights activist after the assassination attempt on his wife Gabrielle Giffords, and as recent as 2024, a vice presidential option. He's always been a critic of Trump and his allies, but eye-catching fundraising and avoiding questions about his future have politicos wondering if Kelly is interested in the White House for 2028. This week on The Gaggle, we discuss what Sen. Mark Kelly's future could hold. Email us! thegaggle@arizonarepublic.com Leave us a voicemail: 602-444-0804 Follow us on X, Instagram and Tik Tok Hosts: Ron Hansen, Stephanie Murray Producer: Amanda Luberto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 38m 42s | ||||||
| 5/13/26 |  Trump eases marijuana rules as Arizona considers crackdown | More than a decade after Arizonans voted to legalize medical marijuana, the Trump administration is loosing federal rules around it. While the final moves of rescheduling are still to come by the DEA, some Arizona Republicans are going in the opposite direction of the Trump administration by trying to put stricter rules around marijuana for the state. This week on The Gaggle, a politics podcast by The Arizona Republic and azcentral.com, we talk about why Trump reclassified marijuana now and why Arizona's GOP is considering a crackdown. Email us! thegaggle@arizonarepublic.com Leave us a voicemail: 602-444-0804 Follow us on X, Instagram and Tik Tok Guest: Ray Stern Hosts: Stephanie Murray Producer: Amanda Luberto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | 21m 04s | ||||||
| 5/6/26 |  Why Andy Biggs wants to be Arizona's next Governor✨ | Arizona politicsgubernatorial candidates+3 | Andy Biggs | The Arizona Republicazcentral.com | — | Andy BiggsArizona Governor+4 | — | 29m 58s | |
| 4/29/26 |  Democrats want Maricopa County. Here's their challenge.✨ | Maricopa CountyDemocratic Party+4 | Patti O'Neil | Maricopa County Democratic Party | Maricopa CountyArizona | Maricopa CountyDemocrats+5 | — | 22m 28s | |
| 4/22/26 |  Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos' web of half-truths✨ | Pima CountySheriff+3 | Stephanie Murray | The Arizona Republicazcentral.com | — | Chris NanosNancy Guthrie+3 | — | 26m 25s | |
| 4/15/26 |  Why Trump is visiting Phoenix so early in the 2026 midterm cycle✨ | Trump visitmidterm elections+3 | Jesse Hunt | Turning PointThe Arizona Republic+1 | — | TrumpPhoenix+4 | — | 27m 31s | |
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