The Game Before the Money: Oral History of Pro and College Football
by Jackson Michael
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Packers Legend Jerry Kramer Part 1
Apr 3, 2026
39m 51s
Devin Hester Chicago Bears Hall of Famer
Feb 6, 2026
9m 50s
Joe DeLamielleure Hall of Fame OL Bills Browns
Jan 20, 2026
27m 35s
Welcome to 2026!
Jan 6, 2026
15m 13s
Tales of a 1970s NFL Trainer
Nov 24, 2025
1h 14m 05s
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| Date | Episode | Description | Length | ||||||
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| 4/3/26 | Packers Legend Jerry Kramer Part 1 | Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame guard Jerry Kramer shares about his life growing up in Idaho and his earliest days with the Packers. | 39m 51s | ||||||
| 2/6/26 | Devin Hester Chicago Bears Hall of Famer | Devin Hester shares famous moments of his Hall of Fame NFL career and highlights Mike Ditka's Gridiron Greats Assistance Fund with host Michael Jackson. Also, learn how to win a trip to next year's Super Bowl from Southern Recipe pork rinds! Learn more about The Game Before the Money at TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com . | 9m 50s | ||||||
| 1/20/26 | Joe DeLamielleure Hall of Fame OL Bills Browns | Joe DeLamielleure shares about his NFL career, attending classic NFL games as a youth (including Super Bowl III), and why he chose Michigan State over Michigan and Notre Dame. The Game Before the Money is hosted by football historian Michael Jackson. The Game Before the Money Oral History Foundation is a registered 501 (c) 3 nonprofit. Learn more at TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com . | 27m 35s | ||||||
| 1/6/26 | Welcome to 2026! | Host/Producer Michael Jackson introduces exciting things ahead for The Game Before the Money Podcast. Happy New Year! | 15m 13s | ||||||
| 11/24/25 | Tales of a 1970s NFL Trainer | John Lopez, former NFL trainer for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Baltimore Colts, discusses his career. He shares memories of Hall of Famer Lee Roy Selmon, the Buccaneers first year in the NFL, and how medicine has changed in the NFL since the 1970s. He also talks about legendary Colts trainer Eddie Block and what it was like for players and staff when the Colts moved from Baltimore to Indianapolis. The Game Before the Money Podcast is hosted by Michael Jackson. The Game Before the Money Oral History Foundation is a 501 c 3 nonprofit. Learn more at TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com. | 1h 14m 05s | ||||||
| 11/14/25 | Ep 108: Packers Defense 6 First Quarter Points Given Up Through First 9 Games! | The 2025 Packers only gave up 6 first-quarter points TOTAL through the first 9 games of the 2025 NFL season. How does that incredible stat compare against some of the NFL's all-time greatest defenses? Host Michael Jackson compares this stat against teams like the 1985 Bears, 1976 Steelers, 1962 Packers, 2007 Patriots, 2000 Ravens, and a few other of the best defenses in NFL history. While the Packers are only 5-3-1 after 9 games, how does their amazing first-quarter point stat stack up historically? | 31m 54s | ||||||
| 8/29/25 | Ep 107: NCAA Coach Roundtable Part 2 | NCAA football coaches Steve Sarkisian of Texas, Mike Elko of Texas A&M, Sonny Dykes of TCU, Rhett Lashlee of SMU, Dave Aranda of Baylor, Willie Fritz of Houston, Joey McGuire of Texas Tech, and Jeff Traylor of UTSA discuss their thoughts on the 2025 NCAA football season and how new rules surrounding paying players affect the game on and off the field. Part 2 of 2. Excerpts taken from the Texas High School Coaches Association press conferences in July of 2025. The show is hosted by Michael Jackson. Learn more about the podcast and Michael at TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com. | 33m 19s | ||||||
| 8/1/25 | Ep 106: NCAA Coaches Roundtable on Revenue Sharing and the Salary Cap | Head coaches Steve Sarkisian of Texas, Mike Elko of Texas A&M, Rhett Lashlee of SMU, Sonny Dykes of TCU, Dave Aranda of Baylor, Joey McGuire of Texas Tech, and Willie Fritz of Houston discuss the effects of money in college football. Quotes were recorded at press conferences during the Texas High School Coaches Association convention in San Antonio. This is a real-time look at history in the making as these coaches discuss the rule changes in college football and how they affect recruiting, incoming freshmen, and their teams. Learn more about The Game Before the Money at TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com. | 43m 15s | ||||||
| 6/23/25 | Ep 105: Randy Cross Talks 49ers UCLA | Randy Cross, starting 49ers OL during their greatest seasons, shares memories of the Catch, Super Bowl 23, and gives insight as to why the 49ers were a dynasty. He also remembers his upbringing and his college days at UCLA under head coach Dick Vermeil. The Game Before the Money Oral History Foundation is a 501 (c) 3 non-profit. The podcast is hosted by Michael Jackson. Learn more at TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com. | 48m 45s | ||||||
| 4/23/25 | Ep 104: 2025 NFL Draft and Draft History with Upton Bell | Former NFL executive Upton Bell shares memories of his father, NFL Commissioner Bert Bell, creating the NFL Draft and early draft memories as well as his time drafting players for Hall of Fame coach Don Shula. Plus, who is the top player in the 2025 NFL Draft and fantastic firsthand accounts of Jackie Robinson as a football player and how he might have fared in the NFL. The Game Before the Money is a 501 c 3 nonprofit founded by host Michael Jackson. Learn more at TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com. | 52m 07s | ||||||
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| 2/4/25 | Ep 103: Super Bowl 59 and NFL Dynasties with Upton Bell | Upton Bell gives his insights about the NFL dynasties he's witnessed since the 1940s, when he father Bert Bell was NFL Commissioner. He also previews Super Bowl 59 with host Michael Jackson. The Game Before the Money Oral History Foundation is a 501 (c) 3 non-profit. Learn more and donate at TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com. | 59m 52s | ||||||
| 1/17/25 | Ep 102: Thurman Thomas Buffalo Bills Hall of Famer | Hall of Fame running back Thurman Thomas shares great stories of helping lead the Buffalo Bills to four Super Bowls and his college days at Oklahoma State. He also tells you how to win a trip to next year's Super Bowl in a contest hosted by Pork Rind Appreciation Day and Gridiron Greats. The Game Before the Money Podcast is hosted and produced by Michael Jackson. Learn more at TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com. | 34m 37s | ||||||
| 1/11/25 | Ep 101: Upton Bell Chats Great RBs and NFL Playoff Preview | Upton Bell previews the 2024 NFL Playoffs and remembers the NFL's greatest running backs and their performances. The Game Before the Money Oral History Foundation is a 501 c 3 nonprofit. Learn more at TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com. Host Michael Jackson (aka Jackson Michael) produces this podcast. | 1h 07m 40s | ||||||
| 11/23/24 | Ep 100: Richmond Webb Dolphins OL Legend | Richmond Webb, a Miami Dolphins and Texas A&M legend, discusses his career in NCAA and the NFL. Webb is a semi-finalist for the Pro Football Hall of Fame 2025 class. He shares about blocking for Dan Marino, playing for head coach Don Shula and his college coaches Jackie Sherrill and R.C. Slocum. The Game Before the Money Oral History Foundation is a 501 (c) 3 non-profit. Learn more and donate at TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com. | 34m 35s | ||||||
| 11/15/24 | Ep 99: NFL Agent Bryan Ehrlich | NFLPA-certified contract advisor Bryan Ehrlich explains the many things NFL agents do to represent their clients. He also discusses trades, the NFL Draft, and contract negotiations. Learn more about The Game Before the Money at TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com. | 32m 06s | ||||||
| 5/25/24 | Ep 98: The Legendary Dick LeBeau | Hall of Famer Dick LeBeau discusses his new book "Legendary" as well as his playing career with the Lions and his coaching career. He goes in-depth about the 2008 Pittsburgh Steelers defense and what it was like playing with Night Train Lane and for Woody Hayes. | 45m 49s | ||||||
| 5/1/24 | E97: Upton Bell on Scouting OJ Simpson | Former Colts executive Upton Bell shares about scouting O.J. Simpson. He discusses concerns about Simpson's character even at USC, what he reported back to head coach Don Shula, and his memories of personal interactions with Simpson's defense team before and after the trial. | 45m 47s | ||||||
| 3/22/24 | E96: 2023 NFL Wrap Up with Upton Bell | Upton Bell, a former executive with the Colts and Patriots, looks back at the 2023 NFL season and how it rates historically. He also discusses how he approached the NFL Draft, the state of the NFL in modern times, and who he thinks is the best player in the upcoming NFL Draft. The Game Before the Money is a 501 c 3 non-profit, dedicated to preserving NFL history through oral history interviews. Learn more at TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com. | 55m 27s | ||||||
| 2/9/24 | E95: Super Bowl 58 with Upton Bell | Upton Bell reached Super Bowl 3 and Super Bowl 5 with the Colts as Director of Player Personnel. Hear him preview Super Bowl 58 and share his Super Bowl experience. He also reviews last week's conference championships and discusses Bill Belichick. The Game Before the Money is a 501(c)3 non-profit that preserves the life stories of NFL legends through oral history. Learn more at TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com. | 58m 34s | ||||||
| 1/24/24 | E94: First Ever AFC Championship | Baltimore hosted the first-ever AFC Championship Game. Former Baltimore executive Upton Bell shares his memories of the game and building the Super Bowl 5 champion Baltimore Colts. He also shares memories of the 1957 Lions-49ers playoff and predicts this week's NFC Championship and AFC Championship. Learn more about The Game Before the Money and host Jackson Michael at TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com. | 46m 01s | ||||||
| 1/19/24 | E93: 2023 NFL Playoffs with Upton Bell | Former Colts and Patriots executive Upton Bell discusses the 2023 NFL Playoffs and makes predictions on the Divisional Playoffs and beyond. To learn more about The Game Before the Money, hosted by author and oral historian Jackson Michael, visit TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com. | 38m 38s | ||||||
| 12/14/23 | E92: Upton Bell Chats 2023 NFL Season | Upton Bell, a Colts executive in the 1960s and with their Super Bowl 5 championship team, gives his thoughts on the current NFL season. Topics include offensive line play, coaching, and officiating. The program is hosted by oral historian and author Jackson Michael. Learn more about The Game Before the Money at The Game Before the Money. | 54m 31s | ||||||
| 11/30/23 | E91: Author John Eisenberg Talks Rocket Men | Football author John Eisenberg discusses his latest book, "Rocket Men: The Black Quarterbacks Who Revolutionized Pro Football." He celebrates the careers of Warren Moon, Doug Williams, James Harris, and Randall Cunningham as well as current QBs Patrick Mahomes and Russell Wilson. The Game Before the Money Oral History Foundation is a 501 (c) 3 nonprofit. Learn more at The Game Before the Money. | 42m 09s | ||||||
| 10/14/23 | E90: Dermontti Dawson Hall of Fame Center | Steelers Hall of Fame center Dermontti Dawson shares stories about his life and career, from playing college ball at Kentucky to being elected to the Hall of Fame. The Game Before the Money Oral History Foundation is a 501 (c) non-profit. Learn more about The Game Before the Money at https://www.TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com. | 32m 33s | ||||||
| 9/5/23 | E89: Eddie Meador - A Look Back | Rams legendary defensive back Eddie Meador shares stories in this reposting of one of the first episodes of The Game Before the Money. Meador passed away in September of 2023. Reposting the podcast is an effort to honor his life and career. Learn more about The Game Before the Money at TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com. | 23m 55s | ||||||
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