The Human Side of Money

Most Advisors rely on technical expertise (IQ). But when you work with human beings, IQ alone often isn’t enough. You have to combine IQ and EQ (Emotional Intelligence). Shannon Harris, Managing Partner at Ecclesiastes Wealth Partners, has developed an approach that blends IQ with EQ by delivering values-based advice designed to reshape every client conversation. In this episode, she shares why she completely rebranded her firm to focus on values-based advice and the framework she uses to deliver that value in every conversation. You’ll Learn: Why IQ alone often isn’t enough and how EQ can elevate your business How she applies values-based conversations in every meeting How she uncovers a client’s top 5 values with a simple exercise How she uses the client’s values to help them make better decisions The common quantitative and qualitative results of embracing this approach To sign up for Brendan’s newsletter packed with resources to master the human side of advice → Click Here Resources: Values Exercise – Think2Perform The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer Equipping for Impact – Coaching program tailored to financial professionals Connect with Brendan Frazier: RFG Advisory LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier Connect with Shannon Harris: Website: Ecclesiastes Wealth Partners LinkedIn: Shannon Harris About Our Guest: Shannon Harris is the Managing Partner and an advisor at Ecclesiastes Wealth Partners, recognized by Forbes as one of the Top Women Wealth Advisors. With over 25 years of experience, she blends financial planning with emotional intelligence, delivering values-based advice that aligns money with what matters most. Her unique approach is rooted in behavioral finance and life coaching, helping clients make meaningful, purpose-driven financial decisions. – Content here is for illustrative purposes and general information only. It is not legal, tax, or individualized financial advice; nor is it a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any specific security, or engage in any specific trading strategy. Information here may be provided, in part, by third-party sources. These sources are generally deemed to be reliable; however, neither our guest nor RFG Advisory guarantee the accuracy of third-party sources. The views expressed here are those of our guest. They do not necessarily represent those of RFG Advisory, its employees, or its clients. This commentary should not be regarded as a description of advisory services provided by RFG Advisory, or performance returns of any client. The views reflected in the commentary are subject to change at any time without notice. Securities offered by Registered Representatives of Private Client Services. Member FINRA / SIPC. Advisory services offered by Investment Advisory Representatives of RFG Advisory, LLC (“RFG Advisory or “RFG”), a registered investment advisor. Private Client Services and RFG Advisory are unaffiliated entities. Advisory services are only offered to clients or prospective clients where RFG Advisory and its representatives are properly licensed or exempt from licensure. No advisory services may be rendered by RFG Advisory unless a client agreement is in place. RFG Advisory is an SEC-registered investment adviser. SEC registration does not constitute an endorsement of RFG by the Commission, nor does it indicate that RFG or any associated investment advisory representative has attained a particular level of skill or ability.

What if the most important trust-building moments with clients aren’t during meetings, but actually in between them? It turns out that your communication between meetings ( texts, emails, calls, etc.) can significantly impact trust, satisfaction, and client retention. In this conversation, Dr. Megan McCoy shares her breakthrough research on the power of between-meeting communication and how Advisors can create a “web of support” plan to help improve trust, satisfaction and client retention. You’ll Learn: Ways to personalize communication at scale A framework for “between meeting” communication How to balance task-based and relationship-based outreach Signs your client has financial anxiety (even when they say they’re “fine”) Why you need the right message delivered through the right medium *To sign up for Brendan’s newsletter packed with resources to master the human side of advice → Click Here *To get the “Affiliation Guide” outlining a business model designed to help build your business ->Click Here Resources: Book: Financial Planning Counseling Skills Book: Facilitating Financial Health: Tools for Financial Planners, Coaches, and Therapists Book: Happy Money: The Science of Happier Spending Connect with Brendan Frazier: RFG Advisory LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier Connect with Dr. Megan McCoy: LinkedIn: Dr. Megan McCoy About Our Guest: Megan McCoy, Ph.D., LMFT, AFC®, CFT-I™, is an Assistant Professor at Kansas State University’s Department of Personal Financial Planning. She teaches courses at the undergraduate, graduate, and doctoral levels focused on financial well-being, financial therapy, and couple dynamics regarding finances. Dr. McCoy holds a B.A. in Psychology from The University of North Carolina and an M.A. in Marriage and Family Therapy from Drexel University. Dr. McCoy also attended the University of Georgia, where she earned a Ph.D. in Human Development and Family Science with an emphasis in Marriage and Family Therapy. She is a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, an Accredited Financial Counselor®, and a Certified Financial Therapist-I™. During her doctoral program, she developed a specialization in financial therapy and client psychology. She had the opportunity to work with clients alongside financial planning students to treat clients’ financial well-being together. Observing and learning from financial planners’ work with clients enabled Dr. McCoy to gain more insights into the psychology of financial planning. She serves on the Financial Therapy Association’s Board of Directors and was the past Associate editor of the Journal of Financial Therapy. She is currently co-editor for the Financial Planning Review. She was also a guest editor on a special issue on finances for Contemporary Family Therapy. Dr. McCoy’s research interests focus on financial therapy, financial well-being, and financial communication, as well as diversity, equity, and inclusion issues. She has published over forty articles in top-tier mental health, family science, financial counseling, and financial planning journals. This year, her research has won awards from the National Council of Family Relations and the Financial Therapy Association. Dr. McCoy has been awarded grants from the Financial Planning Association, the National Endowment for Financial Education, and FP Canada to continue research on how to integrate client psychology topics into financial planning to foster trust and commitment with clients. Dr. McCoy has also been featured as a financial well-being expert on the Today Show, NPR, BBC, the Wall Street Journal, and many other media outlets. – Content here is for illustrative purposes and general information only. It is not legal, tax, or individualized financial advice; nor is it a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any specific security, or engage in any specific trading strategy. Information here may be provided, in part, by third-party sources. These sources are generally deemed to be reliable; however, neither our guest nor RFG Advisory guarantee the accuracy of third-party sources. The views expressed here are those of our guest. They do not necessarily represent those of RFG Advisory, its employees, or its clients. This commentary should not be regarded as a description of advisory services provided by RFG Advisory, or performance returns of any client. The views reflected in the commentary are subject to change at any time without notice. Securities offered by Registered Representatives of Private Client Services. Member FINRA / SIPC. Advisory services offered by Investment Advisory Representatives of RFG Advisory, LLC (“RFG Advisory or “RFG”), a registered investment advisor. Private Client Services and RFG Advisory are unaffiliated entities. Advisory services are only offered to clients or prospective clients where RFG Advisory and its representatives are properly licensed or exempt from licensure. No advisory services may be rendered by RFG Advisory unless a client agreement is in place. RFG Advisory is an SEC-registered investment adviser. SEC registration does not constitute an endorsement of RFG by the Commission, nor does it indicate that RFG or any associated investment advisory representative has attained a particular level of skill or ability.

What if your onboarding process could become your most powerful referral engine? Most advisors overlook onboarding as a strategic growth tool—and that’s a mistake. In this episode, Brendan Frazier sits down with Libby Greiwe, founder of The Efficient Advisor, podcast host, and author of The First 100 Days: The Advisor’s Blueprint for a Remarkable Client Experience. Libby walks through how to assess your current process, design it around your clients’ emotions, and shift their experience from uncertainty to confidence. All while laying the foundation for lifelong loyalty and a steady stream of referrals. You’ll Learn: How you can assess your onboarding process to identify areas for improvement Designing your onboarding experience to align with your clients’ emotions The three layers that make up a great onboarding process How a “Domino’s pizza tracker” style system can help keep clients informed and engaged How hosting signing parties for paperwork could reduce friction and improve the client experience The role of remarkable human connections and clear expectations plays in onboarding success *To sign up for Brendan’s newsletter packed with resources to master the human side of advice → Click Here Resources: The First 100 Days Course Connect with Brendan Frazier: RFG Advisory LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier Connect with Libby Greiwe: The Efficient Advisor LinkedIn: Libby Greiwe About our Guest: Libby Greiwe helps financial advisors build efficient, systematized businesses—so they can work less, feel less overwhelmed, and fall back in love with their practice. When she began her career in financial services, Libby was logging 80-hour weeks at a large brokerage firm. It didn’t take long for her to recognize that most advisors weren’t struggling due to a lack of knowledge—they were struggling because they lacked efficient systems. That realization set her on a mission to change the way advisors work. Through The Efficient Advisor, Libby now teaches advisors how to organize their practice, streamline operations, and deliver an exceptional client experience—while reclaiming their time and energy. – Content here is for illustrative purposes and general information only. It is not legal, tax, or individualized financial advice; nor is it a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any specific security, or engage in any specific trading strategy. Information here may be provided, in part, by third-party sources. These sources are generally deemed to be reliable; however, neither our guest nor RFG Advisory guarantee the accuracy of third-party sources. The views expressed here are those of our guest. They do not necessarily represent those of RFG Advisory, its employees, or its clients. This commentary should not be regarded as a description of advisory services provided by RFG Advisory, or performance returns of any client. The views reflected in the commentary are subject to change at any time without notice. Securities offered by Registered Representatives of Private Client Services. Member FINRA / SIPC. Advisory services offered by Investment Advisory Representatives of RFG Advisory, LLC (“RFG Advisory or “RFG”), a registered investment advisor. Private Client Services and RFG Advisory are unaffiliated entities. Advisory services are only offered to clients or prospective clients where RFG Advisory and its representatives are properly licensed or exempt from licensure. No advisory services may be rendered by RFG Advisory unless a client agreement is in place. RFG Advisory is an SEC-registered investment adviser. SEC registration does not constitute an endorsement of RFG by the Commission, nor does it indicate that RFG or any associated investment advisory representative has attained a particular level of skill or ability.

What if retirement planning wasn’t just about saving but about learning how to spend? In Part 2 of The Human Side of Retirement, Brendan Frazier continues his conversation with Dan Haylett to explore the emotional and psychological aspects of decumulation. They dig into the behavioral side of this transition, why a “save, save, save” mindset can hold clients back, and how to reframe retirement as a time to pursue fulfillment. And they offer practical strategies advisors can use to guide clients through this transition so retirement becomes not just a financial milestone, but a fulfilling new chapter. You’ll Learn: Mastering the skill of spending money in retirement Creating intentional spending habits to smooth the transition Reframing the success rates of financial plans The significance of the 50 to 70 “sweet spot” years for optimal life experiences *To sign up for Brendan’s newsletter packed with resources to master the human side of advice → Click Here Connect with Brendan Frazier: RFG Advisory LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier Connect with Dan Haylett: Humans vs Retirement LinkedIn: Dan Haylett TFP Financial Planning About Our Guest: Dan Haylett is the director, Head of Growth, and financial Planner at TFP Financial Planning. As a co-director of TFP, Dan’s “pull back the duvet every morning” purpose is helping our clients spend their time and money on what’s truly important. His passion for understanding and learning about the emotional, behavioural and financial challenges of life after work makes him a true specialist in helping clients have the freedom and confidence to take advantage of their ‘window of spending opportunity’ and live their best life. – Content here is for illustrative purposes and general information only. It is not legal, tax, or individualized financial advice; nor is it a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any specific security, or engage in any specific trading strategy. Information here may be provided, in part, by third-party sources. These sources are generally deemed to be reliable; however, neither our guest nor RFG Advisory guarantee the accuracy of third-party sources. The views expressed here are those of our guest. They do not necessarily represent those of RFG Advisory, its employees, or its clients. This commentary should not be regarded as a description of advisory services provided by RFG Advisory, or performance returns of any client. The views reflected in the commentary are subject to change at any time without notice. Securities offered by Registered Representatives of Private Client Services. Member FINRA / SIPC. Advisory services offered by Investment Advisory Representatives of RFG Advisory, LLC (“RFG Advisory or “RFG”), a registered investment advisor. Private Client Services and RFG Advisory are unaffiliated entities. Advisory services are only offered to clients or prospective clients where RFG Advisory and its representatives are properly licensed or exempt from licensure. No advisory services may be rendered by RFG Advisory unless a client agreement is in place. RFG Advisory is an SEC-registered investment adviser. SEC registration does not constitute an endorsement of RFG by the Commission, nor does it indicate that RFG or any associated investment advisory representative has attained a particular level of skill or ability.

Financial planning is a service-based business. You’re selling the invisible. It can’t be seen, touched or experienced before buying. Prospects are forced to search for other ways to evaluate the value of working with you (most of which are NOT great options to inform such an important decision!). Fortunately, Michael Lecours, a financial advisor and co-founder of fpPathfinder, joined the show to explain the challenges of communicating the value of an intangible service and share specific ideas to make the financial planning experience more tangible. You’ll Learn: How a dentist office made their service more tangible The invisible influences that drive a prospect’s decision Using a client journey map to enhance client experiences What Airbnb can teach us about marketing the real value of an advisor *To sign up for Brendan’s newsletter packed with resources to master the human side of advice → Click Here   Resources: Harvard Business Review: Know Your Customers’ “Jobs to Be Done” fpPathfinder: Popular Checklists & Flowcharts “Alchemy: The Dark Art and Curious Science of Creating Magic in Brands, Business, and Life” by Rory Sutherland “The Checklist Manifesto: How to Get Things Right” by Atul Gawande Connect with Brendan Frazier: RFG Advisory LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier Connect with Mike Lecours: fpPathfinder LinkedIn: Michael Lecours About Our Guest: Michael Lecours, CFP® is a Co-Founder of fpPathfinder. He is also a financial advisor and planner at the Wealth Strategies Team. Michael began his career in advertising where he worked to develop marketing strategies for insurance companies, banks, credit unions, RIAs and hedge funds. Now, he leverages his background in advertising to distill complex financial planning concepts into straightforward strategies, apply behavioral finance concepts to the planning process and injects a disciplined approach to all facets of the client experience. – Content here is for illustrative purposes and general information only. It is not legal, tax, or individualized financial advice; nor is it a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any specific security, or engage in any specific trading strategy. Information here may be provided, in part, by third-party sources. These sources are generally deemed to be reliable; however, neither our guest nor RFG Advisory guarantee the accuracy of third-party sources. The views expressed here are those of our guest. They do not necessarily represent those of RFG Advisory, its employees, or its clients. This commentary should not be regarded as a description of advisory services provided by RFG Advisory, or performance returns of any client. The views reflected in the commentary are subject to change at any time without notice. Securities offered by Registered Representatives of Private Client Services. Member FINRA / SIPC. Advisory services offered by Investment Advisory Representatives of RFG Advisory, LLC (“RFG Advisory or “RFG”), a registered investment advisor. Private Client Services and RFG Advisory are unaffiliated entities. Advisory services are only offered to clients or prospective clients where RFG Advisory and its representatives are properly licensed or exempt from licensure. No advisory services may be rendered by RFG Advisory unless a client agreement is in place. RFG Advisory is an SEC-registered investment adviser. SEC registration does not constitute an endorsement of RFG by the Commission, nor does it indicate that RFG or any associated investment advisory representative has attained a particular level of skill or ability.

Most advisors know they need to integrate the human element into their practice. But, it’s hard to decide WHAT to do and HOW to do it. Fortunately, Danielle Howard has successfully studied, tested and integrated the human element into her practice for over 30 years. And, through those years of learning and testing, she built the “Journey of Financial Health” process. In this conversation, Danielle reveals the steps of this process and how it helps her uncover client’s mindsets, beliefs, and identities around money. You’ll Learn: The role of identity in financial decisions The “Journey of Financial Health” Client Process The surveys she uses to facilitate deeper conversations A question to help clients focus on their financial “wins” How to run group workshops and hands-on client experiences *To sign up for Brendan’s newsletter packed with resources to master the human side of advice → Click Here Resources: “The Soul of Money” by Lynne Twist “Atomic Habits” by James Clear “The Body of Money” by Gayle Colman Connect with Brendan Frazier: RFG Advisory LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier Connect with Danielle Howard: Website: Danielle Howard CFP® LinkedIn: Danielle Howard, CFP® CKA® danielle@wbd4u.com 970-927-3909 About Our Guest: As a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ author, speaker and founder of Wealth By Design, LLC and Danielle Howard, CFP®, she is a catalyst for change around the financial tools, techniques and temperaments that construct a person’s financial life. She is a blogger, podcaster and outspoken advocate for people heading into their fall season of life. Bridging the gap between Wall Street and Main Street, she brings complex financial topics and concepts down to earth. She opens the door to new conversations around money. Her engaging workshop – “Financial Fingerprints to Footprints™” provides an opportunity for people to look at their mindsets around money and learn how to build on the wins or rewrite the scripts. With on-line tutorial opportunities and in person educational events, she brings a fresh perspective to the pecuniary world. – Content here is for illustrative purposes and general information only. It is not legal, tax, or individualized financial advice; nor is it a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any specific security, or engage in any specific trading strategy. Information here may be provided, in part, by third-party sources. These sources are generally deemed to be reliable; however, neither our guest nor RFG Advisory guarantee the accuracy of third-party sources. The views expressed here are those of our guest. They do not necessarily represent those of RFG Advisory, its employees, or its clients. This commentary should not be regarded as a description of advisory services provided by RFG Advisory, or performance returns of any client. The views reflected in the commentary are subject to change at any time without notice. Securities offered by Registered Representatives of Private Client Services. Member FINRA / SIPC. Advisory services offered by Investment Advisory Representatives of RFG Advisory, LLC (“RFG Advisory or “RFG”), a registered investment advisor. Private Client Services and RFG Advisory are unaffiliated entities. Advisory services are only offered to clients or prospective clients where RFG Advisory and its representatives are properly licensed or exempt from licensure. No advisory services may be rendered by RFG Advisory unless a client agreement is in place. RFG Advisory is an SEC-registered investment adviser. SEC registration does not constitute an endorsement of RFG by the Commission, nor does it indicate that RFG or any associated investment advisory representative has attained a particular level of skill or ability.

Financial advice is no longer just about offering services—it’s about creating real, meaningful experiences for clients. Because an experience unlike any other is the difference between a one-time sale and a lifelong client. You want to create experiences so exceptional that your clients aren’t even interested in hearing about an alternative. And, they can’t wait to tell their friends and family about it. Fortunately, Dennis Moseley-Williams is a client experience guru and explains how to elevate your client experience to create raving fans and grow your business. You’ll Learn: Why efficiency is the executioner of experience Why all advisors need a secret belief to share with clients The important distinction between service and experience Lessons about the client experience from The Ritz-Carlton A social media experiment to enhance the client experience *To sign up for Brendan’s newsletter packed with resources to master the human side of advice → Click Here Connect with Brendan Frazier: RFG Advisory LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier Connect with Dennis Moseley-Williams: Serious Shift | Inner Circle by DMW Strategic Consulting Dennis Moseley-Williams Strategic Consulting LinkedIn: Dennis Moseley-Williams About Our Guest: Dennis is the founder of Dennis Moseley-Williams Strategic Consulting, a practice management company that helps organizations secure and build sustainable relationships by creating experience-driven solutions that deliver results, increase revenues, and build enthusiastic referral-generating communities. A certified expert in the Experience Economy, Dennis helps organizations understand that customer experience is the predominant economic offering in the world today and demonstrates ways in which experiences can be crafted and staged so that they entice, educate, satisfy and transform – Content here is for illustrative purposes and general information only. It is not legal, tax, or individualized financial advice; nor is it a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any specific security, or engage in any specific trading strategy. Information here may be provided, in part, by third-party sources. These sources are generally deemed to be reliable; however, neither our guest nor RFG Advisory guarantee the accuracy of third-party sources. The views expressed here are those of our guest. They do not necessarily represent those of RFG Advisory, its employees, or its clients. This commentary should not be regarded as a description of advisory services provided by RFG Advisory, or performance returns of any client. The views reflected in the commentary are subject to change at any time without notice. Securities offered by Registered Representatives of Private Client Services. Member FINRA / SIPC. Advisory services offered by Investment Advisory Representatives of RFG Advisory, LLC (“RFG Advisory or “RFG”), a registered investment advisor. Private Client Services and RFG Advisory are unaffiliated entities. Advisory services are only offered to clients or prospective clients where RFG Advisory and its representatives are properly licensed or exempt from licensure. No advisory services may be rendered by RFG Advisory unless a client agreement is in place. RFG Advisory is an SEC-registered investment adviser. SEC registration does not constitute an endorsement of RFG by the Commission, nor does it indicate that RFG or any associated investment advisory representative has attained a particular level of skill or ability.

We all have an idea of what retirement will be like. But what happens when reality doesn’t match your expectations? For many, the transition from a structured career to unstructured free time isn’t as easy as it seems. That’s exactly what happened to Tom Pendergast. Tom is a retired professional who found himself facing an unexpected challenge: boredom In this episode, Tom reveals his personal journey through the human side of retirement—the identity shifts, the search for purpose, and the unexpected struggles that come with it. You’ll Learn: Why Tom’s initial idea of retirement didn’t match the reality The challenges of shedding a career identity and finding a new purpose Experiments Tom tried to create a more meaningful retirement The role a financial advisor can play in easing the transition *To sign up for Brendan’s newsletter packed with resources to master the human side of advice → Click Here Resources: 45: Designing A Discovery Process To Maximize Return On Life with Mitch Anthony 120: The Three Cornerstones of a Happy And Fulfilling Retirement with Michael Finke Connect with Brendan Frazier: RFG Advisory LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier Connect with Tom Pendergast: Substack: Tom Pendergast LinkedIn: Tom Pendergast About Our Guest: Tom Pendergast is a writer and editor with eclectic interests, including cars, birds, outdoor exploration, baking, cybersecurity, and privacy. He often jokes that he’s no longer fit for corporate work, but his career has included serving as the Chief Learning Officer at MediaPRO, a cybersecurity and privacy education company. Before that, he founded and ran Full Circle Editorial, a book packaging company, with his wife, Sara. During that time, he authored and edited two dozen books and countless articles. He also served on the local school board and remains interested in local politics. He lives in Snohomish, Washington, with his wife, artist Sara Pendergast. They have two grown children and a close-knit circle of friends. Together, they enjoy hiking, racing cars, drinking beer, gardening, watching birds, and making the most of life. – Content here is for illustrative purposes and general information only. It is not legal, tax, or individualized financial advice; nor is it a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any specific security, or engage in any specific trading strategy. Information here may be provided, in part, by third-party sources. These sources are generally deemed to be reliable; however, neither our guest nor RFG Advisory guarantee the accuracy of third-party sources. The views expressed here are those of our guest. They do not necessarily represent those of RFG Advisory, its employees, or its clients. This commentary should not be regarded as a description of advisory services provided by RFG Advisory, or performance returns of any client. The views reflected in the commentary are subject to change at any time without notice. Securities offered by Registered Representatives of Private Client Services. Member FINRA / SIPC. Advisory services offered by Investment Advisory Representatives of RFG Advisory, LLC (“RFG Advisory or “RFG”), a registered investment advisor. Private Client Services and RFG Advisory are unaffiliated entities. Advisory services are only offered to clients or prospective clients where RFG Advisory and its representatives are properly licensed or exempt from licensure. No advisory services may be rendered by RFG Advisory unless a client agreement is in place. RFG Advisory is an SEC-registered investment adviser. SEC registration does not constitute an endorsement of RFG by the Commission, nor does it indicate that RFG or any associated investment advisory representative has attained a particular level of skill or ability.