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Ep. 70 When “Doing Nothing” Is Actually Doing Something: Reframing Engagement
Apr 28, 2026
23m 45s
Ep. 69 Completing Unpreferred Tasks Should NOT Be an IEP Goal
Apr 14, 2026
17m 23s
Special Episode of The Inclusion Podcast: You Say You’re Inclusive… But Your System Says Otherwise
Apr 7, 2026
24m 18s
Ep. 68 The Inclusive Schedule Trap: What Schools Keep Getting Wrong—and What to Do Instead
Mar 31, 2026
20m 23s
Ep. 67 Steal This Script: How Leaders Talk About Inclusive Education
Mar 17, 2026
17m 42s
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| Date | Episode | Description | Length | ||||||
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| 4/28/26 | Ep. 70 When “Doing Nothing” Is Actually Doing Something: Reframing Engagement | What if we’ve misunderstood what engagement really looks like? In this powerful episode, Kristie and Julie unpack why rest, quiet moments, and nonverbal participation are all valid—and vital—ways students engage with learning. You’ll hear how reframing “doing nothing” can create more equitable classrooms for neurodivergent and disabled learners. Get the reframing language guide at inclusiveschooling.com/download70. | 23m 45s | ||||||
| 4/14/26 | Ep. 69 Completing Unpreferred Tasks Should NOT Be an IEP Goal | Is “doing hard things” really the right benchmark for students with disabilities? In this episode, Julie and Kristie challenge the idea that completing unpreferred tasks is an appropriate or meaningful IEP goal. They explore what makes a goal truly inclusive, and offer guidance on how to write goals that support autonomy, dignity, and real-world relevance. Download the 5 Questions to Test IEP Goals at inclusiveschooling.com/download69. | 17m 23s | ||||||
| 4/7/26 | Special Episode of The Inclusion Podcast: You Say You’re Inclusive… But Your System Says Otherwise | You say you’re inclusive—but what does your system actually show? In this special episode, Julie and Kristie unpack seven clear indicators that reveal whether a school is truly inclusive or just aspiring to be, from unclear definitions to practices that unintentionally exclude students. You’ll walk away with practical ways to spot misalignment and take immediate steps toward meaningful, system-wide change. Register for The Way Wednesdays Book Club and get the Facilitator’s Guide and Self-Study Guide at https://www.inclusiveschooling.com/book-club. | 24m 18s | ||||||
| 3/31/26 | Ep. 68 The Inclusive Schedule Trap: What Schools Keep Getting Wrong—and What to Do Instead | Too often, what looks like an inclusive schedule on paper falls apart in practice. In this episode, Kristie and Julie explain the common traps teams fall into when creating student schedules—and how to build ones that truly support belonging and participation. You’ll learn how to spot “support-based scheduling” and replace it with a plan that centers access, collaboration, and student needs. Get the Inclusive System Scheduling Process at inclusiveschooling.com/download68. | 20m 23s | ||||||
| 3/17/26 | Ep. 67 Steal This Script: How Leaders Talk About Inclusive Education | In this episode, Julie and Kristie reveal the exact words school leaders can use to promote inclusion with clarity, confidence, and compassion. From responding to resistance to inspiring buy-in, you'll get ready-to-use scripts and strategies for navigating tough conversations about inclusive practices. Whether you’re a principal, coach, or advocate, you’ll leave feeling prepared to lead with language that unites. Download the free guide at inclusiveschooling.com/download67. | 17m 42s | ||||||
| 3/3/26 | Ep. 66 The Relationship Behind the Roles: Co-Teaching That Clicks | Before you can have trust, share a classroom, or divide lessons, you have to build a relationship. In this episode, Kristie and Julie explore what makes co-teaching work—from shared routines to honest conversations—and why relational trust is the foundation of everything. You’ll get practical ways to deepen connection with your co-teacher, whether you’re starting fresh or have worked together for years. Download the free guide: 101 Ways to Get to Know Your Co-Teacher at inclusiveschooling.com/download66 | 21m 42s | ||||||
| 2/17/26 | Ep. 65 Read the Room, Regulate Yourself: What to Do When Behavior Escalate | When a student yells, swears, withdraws, or melts down, it’s not about control—it’s about regulation. In this episode, Julie and Kristie share how to shift from managing behavior to calming nervous systems in the moment. Learn 20 real-time strategies that help de-escalate intense situations with compassion, not compliance. Download the free guide: 20 De-Escalation Ideas That Work at inclusiveschooling.com/download65 | 14m 46s | ||||||
| 2/3/26 | Ep. 64 A Para Is Not an Environment: Clearing Up the LRE Confusion | There’s a lot of confusion around what Least Restrictive Environment (LRE) really means—especially when paraprofessional support is part of the plan. In this episode, Julie and Kristie clarify how LRE works under IDEA, why needing support doesn’t mean a student should be removed, and how we can shift from gatekeeping to problem-solving. You’ll walk away with language, mindset shifts, and team questions that build a stronger culture of inclusion. Download the free resource: A Para Is Not an Environment at inclusiveschooling.com/download64. | 17m 34s | ||||||
| 1/20/26 | Ep. 63 Giving Breaks Isn’t the Problem—It’s How We’re Using Them! | When students are dysregulated, offering a break can feel like the right move—but is it always helpful? In this episode, Kristie and Julie unpack how well-meaning adult-led breaks can unintentionally reinforce escape patterns or erode access to learning. You’ll learn how to offer breaks with purpose, equity, and intention—so students stay connected, not sent away. Download the free resource: The Stay-Put Toolbox at inclusiveschooling.com/download63. | 22m 30s | ||||||
| 1/6/26 | Ep. 62 Design Before Discipline: How to Prevent Behavior with Simple Shifts | Before behavior escalates, the classroom environment can do the heavy lifting. In this episode, Julie and Kristie share 16 proactive tweaks that help prevent challenging behavior by reducing stress and increasing connection. From visual supports to relationship rituals, these simple shifts make classrooms calmer and more inclusive for everyone. Download the free resource: Classroom Tweaks That Prevent Challenging Behavior at inclusiveschooling.com/download62. | 19m 00s | ||||||
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| 12/23/25 | Ep. 61 F%$# you! Now what? | When a student swears at you or lashes out, it’s easy to react. In this powerful episode, Julie and Kristie help you build a personalized response plan that prioritizes connection, not punishment—even in moments of shock or hurt. Discover mantras, phrases, and actions to keep dignity and trust at the center. Download the free worksheet: Build Your Own Response Plan at inclusiveschooling.com/download61. | 20m 39s | ||||||
| 12/9/25 | Ep. 60 Non-Verbal Ways to Support Behavior in the Moment | What your body says in the classroom matters just as much as your words—sometimes more. In this episode, Julie and Kristie break down how your posture, pace, tone, and eye contact can either regulate or escalate behavior. Learn to scan your body and send signals of safety and calm. Download the free tool: Nonverbal Body Scan at inclusiveschooling.com/download60. | 17m 34s | ||||||
| 11/25/25 | Ep. 59 Mini-Moments that Matter: Building Trust Without Tons of Time | Building trust with students doesn’t require big gestures—it’s about intentional mini moments woven into everyday interactions. Julie and Kristie share 23 simple ways to connect with students while teaching, even in packed classrooms. Learn how quick check-ins can boost regulation, trust, and inclusion. Download the free handout: 23 Connection Starters at inclusiveschooling.com/download59. | 12m 21s | ||||||
| 11/11/25 | Ep. 58 Why Running and Refusing Aren’t the Real Problem | What if a student runs? Or refuses to participate? In this episode, Julie and Kristie go beyond labels to focus on nervous system states, explaining why behaviors like eloping or shutting down are signs of dysregulation—not defiance. Download the free resource: Human Ways of Being at inclusiveschooling.com/download58. | 18m 54s | ||||||
| 10/28/25 | Ep. 57 Stop Looking for a Trigger: What Behavior is Really Communicating | Sometimes behavior isn’t about a trigger—it’s about what’s happening beneath the surface. In this episode, Julie and Kristie unpack why searching for a single cause of behavior often leads us in the wrong direction, and how we can shift to listening beneath behavior instead. Learn how to identify the real messages behind actions like yelling out or withdrawing, and respond with empathy and clarity. Download the free resource: Listening Beneath the Behavior at inclusiveschooling.com/download57. | 18m 37s | ||||||
| 10/14/25 | Ep. 56 Inclusion and Safety Can Coexist | This courageous and nuanced conversation dives into one of the biggest fears around inclusion: safety. Julie and Kristie name the fear, challenge ableist assumptions, and provide seven steps to help educators feel equipped, empowered, and proactive when facing concerns about safety in inclusive settings. With humor and honesty, they tackle myths, share research-backed practices, and guide listeners through a shift from exclusion-based thinking to supportive, inclusive responses. Bonus: the handout at inclusiveschooling.com/download56 includes de-escalation techniques, student support plan templates, and strategies to track “success minutes.” | 20m 23s | ||||||
| 10/7/25 | Special Episode of The Inclusion Podcast: The Behavior Reset Every School Leader Needs | Tired of behavior challenges draining your team’s energy and stalling learning? In this special episode, we reveal why outdated approaches keep failing, what actually works, and how to shift mindsets across your staff—without adding another initiative to your plate. Walk away with clarity, strategies you can use tomorrow, and access to our free Behavior 360 Bonus Dashboard—packed with ready-to-use tools, mindset shifts, and practical solutions you can share with your team today. Get instant access at inclusiveschooling.com/360-podcast. | 17m 14s | ||||||
| 9/30/25 | Ep. 55 Paraprofessionals: How to Hide in Plain Sight | Julie and Kristie explore how paraprofessional support can be both effective and unobtrusive. With humor, heart, and powerful metaphors (yes, including Harry Potter's invisibility cloak!), they unpack what it means for paraprofessionals to “hide in plain sight.” The episode offers strategies to increase student independence, dignity, and social connection by camouflaging support and avoiding over-reliance. With resources like “20 Ways to Provide Invisible Support” and “110 Ways Paras Can Help,” this episode is full of practical tools and radical shifts in mindset. Download the robust 29-page guide at inclusiveschooling.com/download55. | 14m 16s | ||||||
| 9/16/25 | Ep. 54 Five Small Moves for a Big Shift in School Culture | In this episode, Julie and Kristie invite listeners to put on their creativity hats and explore five small yet powerful shifts that can profoundly improve school culture. They focus on the “feel” of a school—how it welcomes students, families, and educators—and how small tweaks, like changing a sign from “You are late” to “We’re glad you’re here,” can radically shift emotional tone and engagement. From morning greetings to creative cafeteria strategies, this episode empowers listeners to build inclusive culture through intentional micro-moves. Download the companion resource at inclusiveschooling.com/download54 for practical steps to begin your journey. | 17m 47s | ||||||
| 9/2/25 | Ep. 53 Ten Quick Inclusion Wins: Reset and Refresh | Feeling like your inclusive practices need a boost? You're not alone—and you're in the right place. In this energizing episode, Julie and Kristie share 10 quick inclusion wins that can help you reset, refresh, and re-engage at any point in the school year. Whether it’s the start of a new term or you’re navigating a mid-year slump, these simple but powerful strategies are designed to rebuild relationships with students and staff, add novelty and choice to assignments, rethink participation beyond “raise and respond,” realign and clarify roles with paraprofessionals, and celebrate the progress you’ve already made. Each idea comes with practical tools and bonus resources, including a jam-packed downloadable guide full of embedded supports and strategies. It’s like hitting a reset button for your inclusive classroom or school. Grab your free resource at inclusiveschooling.com/download53, then hit play and get inspired to try just one win today—your future self (and your students) will thank you. | 12m 18s | ||||||
| 8/19/25 | Ep. 52 Multisensory Magic: Co-Teaching On the Fly with One Teach, One Make | In this episode, we dive into an easy, fun, and highly inclusive co-teaching move: One Teach, One Make Multisensory. Sharing real-world examples and practical tips, we show how pairing direct instruction with multisensory experiences can transform engagement and access for all learners. Whether it’s adding props, movement, music, or visuals, this is how a low-prep strategy brings novelty, creativity, and deeper connection into any lesson—on the fly or with a little planning. Download the free Multisensory Co-Teaching Guide at https://inclusiveschooling.com/download52 to start using One Teach, One Make in your classroom today | 15m 51s | ||||||
| 8/5/25 | Ep. 51 You are the Thermostat | Ever wish you could shift the emotional climate in your classroom? In this episode, we explore co-regulation—and how educators act like thermostats, adjusting conditions so every student can learn and connect. Small shifts can create big changes. The download for offers simple, brain-based strategies that show you how to act as a thermostat — adjusting the emotional environment with intention, not reacting to behaviors alone. Get your free download at https://inclusiveschooling.com/download51. | 17m 53s | ||||||
| 7/22/25 | Ep. 50 Beyond Praise, Rewards, and Punishment | Today we’re questioning everything we thought we knew about praise, rewards, and punishment. Are these tools really helping—or are they hurting our efforts to build safe, inclusive classrooms? Let’s dig into what connection-centered support can look like instead. And be sure to get our 10 Inclusive Swaps: Moving Beyond Praise, Rewards, and Punishment at https://inclusiveschooling.com/download50. | 20m 21s | ||||||
| 7/8/25 | Ep. 49 Support is a Verb—Not a Human | When most people hear the word inclusion… they immediately say-- “then we need more support”. And what they mean is more paraprofessionals. In this podcast we will explore this big idea… support isn’t a person—it’s what we do to help students access learning. In this episode, we rethink support as a dynamic, flexible action that starts before, during, and after a lesson. Join us to discover simple ways to make support smarter, without hiring more people. Download the handout at inclusiveschooling.com/download49 | 16m 18s | ||||||
| 6/24/25 | Ep. 48 Finding the Just Right Challenge: Introducing the Zigzag Equalizer | In this episode, Julie and Kristie introduce the zigzag equalizer, a powerful tool to help educators adjust the level of challenge in real-time for every student. By tuning the "equalizer," teachers can meet diverse learning needs—whether a student is struggling or excelling—by balancing factors like complexity, structure, and group dynamics. With relatable examples (including Goldilocks and DJ metaphors), Julie and Kristie explain how to use this tool to create engaging, individualized learning experiences. Download the handout at inclusiveschooling.com/download48 to see the full equalizer visual with directions on how to use. | 17m 32s | ||||||
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