#24 Sarah Wilson: How to Live Fully in a Collapsing World

About this episode

Sarah Wilson discusses how to live fully in a world facing collapse and the importance of embracing change.

What if the collapse we fear isn’t the end of humanity — but the end of a system that no longer serves us? Sarah Wilson is a bestselling author, journalist and activist. Her latest book, I Eat the Stars: How to Live Fully and Beautifully in a Collapsing World , explores how facing the reality of the metacrisis can paradoxically bring greater clarity, courage and even joy. In this conversation, we explore: Why the crises around us may be different expressions of one larger metacrisis Sarah has moved beyond conventional ideas of hope What it means to hospice the old world rather than desperately trying to preserve it Humanity’s passage from adolescence toward collective adulthood How to become an “island of sanity” in increasingly unstable times Why uncertainty, nature, community and spirituality may become essential capacities for what comes next And why humans have repeatedly turned to dance and joy in times of crisis Ultimately, this is a conversation about what it means to meet a moment of profound change without looking away — and to live fully and beautifully anyway. If you enjoy The Initiation , please subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or YouTube , and share the episode…

People in this episode

Host: Sebastian Dienst

Guest: Sarah Wilson

Topics covered

• metacrisis
• hope
• collective adulthood
• uncertainty
• community
• spirituality
• joy in crisis

Keywords

• collapse
• metacrisis
• joy
• community
• spirituality
• uncertainty
• collective adulthood

Mentioned in this episode

Books & works: I Eat the Stars: How to Live Fully and Beautifully in a Collapsing World

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