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Reflections on Season 12
Jun 3, 2026
31m 41s
Carrying the Torch: The Legacy of Thurgood Marshall from His Granddaughter's Perspective
May 17, 2026
55m 23s
REVISIT: Calling In with Loretta Ross
May 6, 2026
1h 11m 40s
REVISIT: Finding Hope in Solidarity with Heather McGhee
Apr 22, 2026
1h 00m 54s
Seeds of Resistance: The Lemon Grove Legacy
Apr 8, 2026
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| 6/3/26 | ![]() Reflections on Season 12✨ | belongingcommunity+4 | — | — | — | belongingcommunity+6 | — | 31m 41s | |
| 5/17/26 | ![]() Carrying the Torch: The Legacy of Thurgood Marshall from His Granddaughter's Perspective✨ | legacyeducation+5 | Cecilia Marshall | Thurgood Marshall Foundation1954 Campaign | — | Thurgood MarshallBrown v. Board+6 | — | 55m 23s | |
| 5/6/26 | ![]() REVISIT: Calling In with Loretta Ross✨ | call-in cultureparenting+4 | Dr. Loretta Ross | Integrated SchoolsMacArthur+1 | — | call inactivism+5 | — | 1h 11m 40s | |
| 4/22/26 | ![]() REVISIT: Finding Hope in Solidarity with Heather McGhee✨ | racismeducation+4 | Heather McGhee | Integrated SchoolsHEAL Together+2 | — | solidarity dividendzero-sum lie+5 | — | 1h 00m 54s | |
| 4/8/26 | ![]() Seeds of Resistance: The Lemon Grove Legacy✨ | school desegregationeducational justice+4 | María Dolores Águila | A Sea of Lemon Trees | California | Lemon Grove Incidentdesegregation+5 | — | 50m 07s | |
| 3/25/26 | ![]() Spatial Injustice: School Closures as a Form of Educational Redlining✨ | spatial injusticeschool closures+4 | Dr. Mara Tieken | Integrated Schools Podcast | — | school closuresspatial injustice+7 | — | 1h 01m 03s | |
| 3/11/26 | ![]() Legacy and Community: Bridging Generations through History✨ | historycommunity+4 | Logan Tilton | North Carolina Central UniversityLevine Museum of the New South+1 | MontgomerySelma+1 | historycommunity+6 | — | 50m 52s | |
| 2/25/26 | ![]() Caring for Your Community in a Time of Crisis: On the Ground in Minneapolis✨ | community carecrisis response+4 | CarinaCisne | — | Minneapolis | communitycrisis+6 | — | 1h 07m 12s | |
| 2/11/26 | ![]() Staying Power with Danielle Wingfield✨ | public educationcivil rights+5 | Danielle Wingfield | Washington and Lee Law Journal | — | massive resistancepublic schools+5 | — | 51m 42s | |
| 1/28/26 | ![]() Demystifying Disability with Emily Ladau✨ | disability rightssocial justice+4 | Emily Ladau | Demystifying Disability: What to Know, What to Say, and How to be an Ally | — | disabilityadvocacy+5 | — | 56m 35s | |
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| 12/17/25 | ![]() 2025 In Review✨ | parentingeducation+4 | — | — | — | parentingschool choices+5 | — | 38m 54s | |
| 12/3/25 | ![]() Calling In with Loretta Ross✨ | reproductive justicecall-out culture+5 | Dr. Loretta Ross | MacArthurCalling In: How to Start Making Change with Those You'd Rather Cancel+1 | — | call incall out+8 | — | 1h 02m 54s | |
| 11/19/25 | ![]() A Big Tent: Parent Voice for Public Educatiion✨ | parent voicepublic education+3 | Ms. Keri Rodrigues | National Parents Union | U.S. Senate building | public educationparent engagement+3 | — | 55m 46s | |
| 11/5/25 | ![]() Using Stories to Inspire Change | What happens when over 600 educators, students, organizers, and advocates gather in community to center racial equity and storytelling? We found out at this year’s Color of Education Summit in Raleigh, North Carolina. In this episode, Andrew takes us inside the summit—hosted by the Dudley Flood Center for Educational Equity and Opportunity—to hear voices from across the state and country. From keynote speeches to hallway conversations, we witness the power of stories to connect, inspire, and catalyze change. We hear from Dr. Deanna Townsend-Smith, who set the tone with vulnerability, legacy, and a call to collective action. And we meet educators, community leaders, organizers, and students whose stories underscore that equity work is personal, communal, and ongoing. Dr. Val and Andrew reflect on what it really means to talk about equity—and how we move beyond “access” to ensure all children can truly thrive. If you’re wondering what role stories play in building a better future, or where to find hope in hard times, this one’s for you. 🎧 Listen in, and then tell us: What story are you carrying? (http://speakpipe.com/integratedschools) LINKS Color of Education 2025 - https://floodcenter.org/2025/a-recap-of-the-color-of-education-summit-recognizing-the-power-in-the-stories-we-carry/ Dudley Flood Center for Educational Equity and Opportunity - https://floodcenter.org/ Tara Roberts - Into the Depths (Podcast) - https://www.nationalgeographic.com/podcasts/into-the-depths I Am Leandro Project - https://www.iamleandro.org/ Profound Gentlemen - https://www.profoundgentlemen.org/ Public Schools First NC - http://publicschoolsfirstnc.org/ Public School Forum of North Carolina - https://www.ncforum.org/ Check out our Bookshop.org storefront to support local bookstores, and send a portion of the proceeds back to us. - https://bookshop.org/shop/IntegratedSchools Share your thoughts by leaving us a voice mail - speakpipe.com/integratedschools Join our Patreon to support this work, and connect with us and other listeners to discuss these issues even further. - https://www.patreon.com/integratedschools Subscribe to our YouTube Channel for video versions of our episodes. - https://www.youtube.com/@integratedschools Let us know what you think of this episode, suggest future topics, or share your story with us – IntegratedSchools on Facebook, @integratedschools on Instagram and TikTok, or email us podcast@integratedschools.org. The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits. This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits. Music by Kevin Casey. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy | 59m 12s | ||||||
| 10/22/25 | ![]() Raising Antiracist Kids | We’re sharing a special crossover: Dr. Val and Andrew join Tabitha St. Bernard-Jacobs and Adam Jacobs, co-hosts of the Raising Antiracist Kids podcast, to talk about parents as partners in building antiracist school communities. We dig into why relationships—especially across lines of race and class—are core to any multiracial democracy, what it looks like for White families to show up without centering themselves, and how we nurture brave, durable school communities together. Along the way, we sit with discomfort, model grace, and keep our eyes on the long game—this is a marathon relay, and we each carry the baton for a bit. LINKS: Raising Antiracist Kids - Tabitha & Adam's substack (http://raisingantiracistkids.com/) The Raising Antiracist Kids Podcast - (https://podnews.net/podcast/izj6q) White Parents, You Can't Support Black Lives Matter & Start A Private Learning Pod- Tabitha's article for Romper back in 2020 (https://www.romper.com/p/how-can-learning-pods-be-equitable-they-cant-31259912) Dr. Val's online organizing #ClearTheAir (https://www.valbrownedu.com/clear-the-air) IntegrateNYC's 5R's of Real Integration (https://integratenyc.org/platform) Bettina Love on the spirit murdering of Black children (https://bettinalove.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Anti-Black-state-violence-classroom-edition-The-spirit-murdering-of-Black-children.pdf) S11E14 – What Was Lost: Noliwe Rooks on the Failures of Integration (https://integratedschools.org/podcast/s11e14-what-was-lost-noliwe-rooks-on-the-failures-of-integration/) S7E2 – Moving and Choosing a School- Dr. Val's 2nd episode on the podcast (https://integratedschools.org/podcast/moving/) Visit our Bookshop.org storefront to support local bookstores, and send a portion of the proceeds back to us. (https://bookshop.org/shop/IntegratedSchools) Join our Patreon to support this work, and connect with us and other listeners to discuss these issues even further. (https://www.patreon.com/integratedschools) Subscribe to our YouTube Channel for video versions of our episodes. (https://www.youtube.com/@integratedschools) Let us know what you think of this episode, suggest future topics, or share your story with us – IntegratedSchools on Facebook, or email us podcast@integratedschools.org. The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits. This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits. Music by Kevin Casey. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy | 47m 23s | ||||||
| 10/8/25 | ![]() Identity and Purpose with Byron Sanders | What does it mean to truly know who you are—and how might that knowing shape what you give back to the world? In this episode, we’re joined by Byron Sanders—educator, CEO, community leader, and newly elected Dallas ISD school board member—for a vulnerable, expansive conversation about identity, purpose, and the responsibility that comes with our gifts. Byron shares a deeply personal story of finding his way from trauma to mission, from being driven by what he didn’t want to become to discovering a life of service rooted in community. Alongside reflections on masculinity, Whiteness, and the narratives we inherit (and resist), Byron challenges us to consider the roles we each play in building a more just and joyful future—both in and beyond schools. We talk about the power of imagination as a source of hope, the need for purpose-driven education, and the importance of community-based “third spaces” where young people can build the skills and self-understanding they’ll need to navigate an uncertain future. And we explore the dangers of narrow identity constructs—especially for boys and men—and the urgent need for models that reflect a fuller humanity. This conversation is a reminder that our stories matter, that restorative possibility lives in community, and that every gift is also an assignment. LINKS: Byron Sanders - https://www.linkedin.com/in/byron-k-sanders/ The Creator Archetype from Big Thought - https://www.bigthought.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/CREATOR-ARCHETYPE.pdf bell hooks - The Will to Change: Men, Masculinity, and Love - https://bookshop.org/a/18658/9780743480338 Richard Reeves - Of Boys and Men: Why the Modern Male Is Struggling, Why It Matters, and What to Do about It - https://bookshop.org/a/18658/9780815740667 Visit our Bookshop.org storefront to support local bookstores, and send a portion of the proceeds back to us. - https://bookshop.org/shop/IntegratedSchools Join our Patreon to support this work, and connect with us and other listeners to discuss these issues even further. - https://www.patreon.com/integratedschools Subscribe to our YouTube Channel for video versions of our episodes. - https://www.youtube.com/@integratedschools Let us know what you think of this episode, suggest future topics, or share your story with us – IntegratedSchools on Facebook, or email us podcast@integratedschools.org. The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits. This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits. Music by Kevin Casey. Additional music Uncertain Ground and Black Mud by Blue Dot Sessions(http://sessions.blue) Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy | 1h 04m 16s | ||||||
| 9/24/25 | ![]() Season 12 Kick Off: What Now? | As we launch Season 12 of the podcast, Dr. Val and Andrew reflect on the start of the school year. With big personal transitions, and the country in a state of deep uncertainty, we ask, what now? How can we acknowledge the current state of eduction and find ways to act for justice. LINKS: Parents as Partners: Building Antiracist School Communities - Dr. Val and Andrew on the Raising Antiracist Kids Podcast (https://www.raisingantiracistkids.com/podcast) Big, Beautiful Monstrosity . . . And a call to action - Blog post from this summer about the budget bill creating a national voucher program. (https://integratedschools.org/big-beautiful-monstrosity-and-a-call-to-action/) Visit our Bookshop.org storefront to support local bookstores, and send a portion of the proceeds back to us. (https://bookshop.org/shop/IntegratedSchools) Join our Patreon to support this work, and connect with us and other listeners to discuss these issues even further. (https://www.patreon.com/integratedschools) Subscribe to our YouTube Channel for video versions of our episodes. (https://www.youtube.com/@integratedschools) Let us know what you think of this episode, suggest future topics, or share your story with us – IntegratedSchools on Facebook (https://facebook.com/integratedschools), or email us podcast@integratedschools.org. The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits. This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits. Music by Kevin Casey. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy | 31m 58s | ||||||
| 8/13/25 | ![]() Eve Ewing Revisited | Original Sins: The (Mis)education of Black and Native Children and the Construction of American Racism is the Integrated Schools Book Club http://integratedschools.org/book-club/ pick for the fall. So we thought we'd revisit our episode with Dr. Ewing. If you've never attended Book Club, it's a wonderful to chance to chat with folks from around the country who are interested in school integration. We have small groups and great facilitators who make sure the conversation flows. Book Club is free! Register now! - http://integratedschools.org/book-club/ ------------------------- Public education is touted as the bedrock of democracy, a leveler of playing fields, and our best tool to create active, engaged citizens. And while that vision is powerful, Dr. Eve L. Ewing argues that it was never intended to be those things for Black or Native students. In fact, her new book, Original Sins: The (MIs)education of Black and Native Children and the Construction of American Racism, maintains that schooling in America was created to prepare White kids for leadership, Black kids for subjugation, and Native kids for erasure. She joins us to discuss these three separate strands of education and the tools of discipline and punishment, implied intellectual inferiority, and preparation for economic subjugation used to support them. She leaves us with love, justice and a focus on flourishing as possible antidotes to help us imagine something better. LINKS: Ghosts in the Schoolyard: Racism and School Closings on Chicago's South Side - https://bookshop.org/a/18658/9780226526164 Original Sins: The (Mis)education of Black and Native Children and the Construction of AmericanRacism - https://bookshop.org/a/18658/9780593243701 Bughouse Square - Eve Ewing's Podcast with co-ghost, Studs Terkel - https://studsterkel.wfmt.com/bughouse-square Faith Ringgold - United States of Attica, 1971 - https://whitney.org/collection/works/44678 Gwendolyn Brooks - We Real Cool - https://poets.org/poem/we-real-cool How Watermelons Became a Racist Trope - William R. Black in The Atlantic - https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/12/how-watermelons-became-a-racist-trope/383529/ The Abigail Fisher case - https://www.propublica.org/article/a-colorblind-constitution-what-abigail-fishers-affirmative-action-case-is-r Project a Black Planet: The Art and Culture of Panafrica - currently at the Art Institute Chicago - https://www.artic.edu/exhibitions/10157/project-a-black-planet-the-art-and-culture-of-panafrica Braiding Sweetgrass - Robin Wall Kimmerer - https://bookshop.org/a/18658/9781571313560 S7E9 – Revisiting Heather McGhee on How Racism Hurts Us All - https://integratedschools.org/podcast/mcgheerevisited/ Use these links or start at our Bookshop.org storefront to support local bookstores, and send a portion of the proceeds back to us. - https://bookshop.org/shop/IntegratedSchools Join our Patreon to support this work, and connect with us and other listeners to discuss these issues even further. - https://www.patreon.com/integratedschools Let us know what you think of this episode, suggest future topics, or share your story with us – IntegratedSchools on Facebook, or email us podcast@integratedschools.org. The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits. This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits. Music by Kevin Casey. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy | 1h 08m 27s | ||||||
| 7/6/25 | ![]() Big, Beautiful Monstrosity - and a Call to Action | The president just signed a truly monstrous piece of legislation into law. Much has been written about the impacts on health, climate and the debt, but there is a lesser known evil lurking in this bill - a national school voucher plan. It's temping to lose hope, but there is something each of us can do. LINKS: A blog post version of this episode. - https://integratedschools.org/big-beautiful-monstrosity-and-a-call-to-action/ Visit our Bookshop.org storefront to support local bookstores, and send a portion of the proceeds back to us. - https://bookshop.org/shop/IntegratedSchools Join our Patreon to support this work, and connect with us and other listeners to discuss these issues even further. - https://www.patreon.com/integratedschools Let us know what you think of this episode, suggest future topics, or share your story with us – IntegratedSchools on Facebook, or email us podcast@integratedschools.org. The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits. This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits. Music by Kevin Casey. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy | 7m 45s | ||||||
| 6/11/25 | ![]() Reflections on Season 11 | As Season 11 comes to a close, we wanted to spend some time reflecting on the lessons we've learned from this season and what we hope for in Season 12. We'll be off for the summer with a few possible bonus episodes, and back for real in the fall. In the mean time, we want to express our deepest appreciation for a number of people who make this podcast run. Firstly, to all of our guests, thank you for joining us, for sharing your stories and your wisdom with us. Being in conversation with each of you is a true gift that we do not take likely. To the podcast team - Darci, Jennifer, Jenna, Anna, Susan, Courtney - thank you for your work on transcripts and promotional material, but more importantly for your thought partnership on each episode and the entire season. The conversations you share, the insights you bring are what keeps the podcast relevant and topical and helps us dive into nuanced topics knowing you're listening and thinking about these things along side of us. To our Patreon supporters and Integrated Schools donors, your belief in this work and your willingness to support it with your financial resources isn't something we take for granted. Your belief in us keeps us invested in the work and motivates us to always make the best episodes we can. And finally, to all of you, our listeners, it is truly and honor to be in this with each and every one of you as we try to know better and do better. Until next season! ________________ Finding a school where your children can thrive, while avoiding contributing to the ongoing segregation we see today, can feel like a tough issue for socially conscious parents. Check out our FREE guide on how you can start engaging with the education system to achieve just that: Download the guide now! https://mailchi.mp/integratedschools/start-guide ________________ Visit our Bookshop.org storefront to support local bookstores, and send a portion of the proceeds back to us. https://bookshop.org/shop/IntegratedSchools Join our Patreon to support this work, and connect with us and other listeners to discuss these issues even further. https://www.patreon.com/integratedschools Let us know what you think of this episode, suggest future topics, or share your story with us – IntegratedSchools on Facebook, or email us podcast@integratedschools.org. The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits. This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits. Music by Kevin Casey. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy | 30m 17s | ||||||
| 5/28/25 | ![]() The Intersection of Private Decisions and Public Responsibility | “Having my children in public school was something that I wanted to do with people in my community. It was a commitment that we were making together. And then when I saw folks leaving, it felt like a betrayal.” – Stephanie Forman. Where we send our kids to school is, for many, a complicated decision. We struggle to weigh multiple factors- curriculum and teachers, diversity of the student body, the commute and hours, not to mention what role we want to play in supporting the institutions where our kids spend 8 hours a day. Drs. Stephanie Forman and Lisa Sibbett are educational researchers in the Pacific Northwest and both decided to send their kids to public schools after weighing many factors. However, they saw many of their colleagues, who were also working to support education, and also expressed a belief in the importance of public schools, opting out, and instead sending their kids to private schools. Rather than write these people off, they decided to use their educational research skills to better understand the choice these families were making, what the impact was for them, and their families, and what tools might be best suited to reconnect those families to public schools, whether by bringing their kids back, or, at a minimum, advocating on behalf of public education. They join us to share what they learned, and help us keep an open mind as we think about the choices people make for schooling. ________________ Finding a school where your children can thrive, while avoiding contributing to the ongoing segregation we see today, can feel like a tough issue for socially conscious parents. Check out our FREE guide on how you can start engaging with the education system to achieve just that: https://mailchi.mp/integratedschools/start-guide ________________ LINKS: Robin DiAngelo's Rules of Engagement for White Fragility - https://www.uua.org/files/pdf/d/diangelo-white_fragility_and_the_rules_of_engagement.pdf Lisa's Substack - The Auntie Bulletin - https://theauntie.substack.com/ S11E16 - Advocating for Black Educator Wellness with Asia Lyons - https://integratedschools.org/podcast/s11e16-advocating-for-black-educator-wellness-with-asia-lyons/ Visit our Bookshop.org storefront to support local bookstores, and send a portion of the proceeds back to us. https://bookshop.org/shop/IntegratedSchools Join our Patreon to support this work, and connect with us and other listeners to discuss these issues even further. - https://www.patreon.com/integratedschools Let us know what you think of this episode, suggest future topics, or share your story with us – IntegratedSchools on Facebook, or email us podcast@integratedschools.org. The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits. This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits. Music by Kevin Casey. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy | 54m 30s | ||||||
| 5/14/25 | ![]() Advocating for Black Educator Wellness with Asia Lyons | “I hope that you know that I believe you, the community of listeners believes you, and that's good enough.” Dr. Asia Lyons Dr. Asia Lyons is the host of 'The Exit Interview: A Podcast for Black Educators' where she practices archival justice by sharing the stories of Black educators who have left the classroom. Her own journey to education and then out of the classroom led her work both on the podcast, and in creating intentional spaces of healing for Black educators. Dr. Lyons's work focuses on the less sexy, but often more important work of retaining Black educators. Recruitment is a crucial starting point, but if we can't create spaces of wellness for Black educators, retention will always be a challenge. Dr. Lyons encourages all of us to speak up on behalf of Black educators, to create spaces of healing, and to advocate for justice at least as loudly as the voices who aren't. ________________ Finding a school where your children can thrive, while avoiding contributing to the ongoing segregation we see today, can feel like a tough issue for socially conscious parents. Check out our FREE guide on how you can start engaging with the education system to achieve just that: download the guide now! https://mailchi.mp/integratedschools/start-guide ________________ LINKS: The Exit Interview: A Podcast for Black Educators - https://www.exitinterviewpodcast.com/ William A Smith - who coined the term Racial Battle Fatigue - https://profiles.faculty.utah.edu/u0173846 Taking Care and Moving Forward with Dr. LaShaune Stitt - https://www.exitinterviewpodcast.com/taking-care-and-moving-forward-with-dr-lashaune-stitt/ Boundaries, Burnout and Black educator Wellness with Josephine Ampaw-Greene - https://www.exitinterviewpodcast.com/boundaries-burnout-and-black-educator-wellness-with-josephine-ampaw-greene/ S11E14 – What Was Lost: Noliwe Rooks on the Failures of Integration - https://integratedschools.org/podcast/s11e14-what-was-lost-noliwe-rooks-on-the-failures-of-integration/ S10E15 – Rebuilding The Black Educator Pipeline with Sharif El-Mekki - https://integratedschools.org/podcast/s10e15-rebuilding-the-black-educator-pipeline-with-sharif-el-mekki/ S10E14 – Jim Crow’s Pink Slip with Dr. Leslie Fenwick - https://integratedschools.org/podcast/s10e14-jim-crows-pink-slip-with-dr-leslie-fenwick/ S11E8 – Gratitude and Validation: One Family’s Journey Through Integrated Schools - https://integratedschools.org/podcast/s11e8-gratitude-and-validation-one-familys-journey-through-integrated-schools/ S11E15 – Unearthing Joy: Gholdy Muhammad on Teaching with Love - https://integratedschools.org/podcast/s11e15-unearthing-joy-gholdy-muhammad-on-teaching-with-love/ Visit our Bookshop.org storefront to support local bookstores, and send a portion of the proceeds back to us. - https://bookshop.org/shop/IntegratedSchools Join our Patreon to support this work, and connect with us and other listeners to discuss these issues even further. - https://www.patreon.com/integratedschools Let us know what you think of this episode, suggest future topics, or share your story with us – IntegratedSchools on Facebook, or email us podcast@integratedschools.org. The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits. This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits. Music by Kevin Casey. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy | 49m 11s | ||||||
| 4/30/25 | ![]() Unearthing Joy: Gholdy Muhammad on Teaching with Love | "If we're not centering children’s humanity through love, there's no strategy, no professional book or instructional method in the world that can prepare the teacher to elevate the child." - Dr. Gholdy Muhammad Identity, skills, intellectualism, criticality, and joy. These are the five pursuits that Dr. Gholdy Muhammad argues are key to education. Our educational system focuses most of its attention on skills while often overlooking the other pursuits to the detriment of all kids. All people need to know who they are and whose they are, need to put the knowledge they gain into action, need to learn to distinguish between truth and lies, and to critically examine the stories we are told, and everyone needs joy. An education system, not to mention a society, that focuses on all five pursuits has the possibility of bringing out the genius in all of us. Underlying all of these pursuits is love. Dr. Muhammad joins us to discuss what teaching, parenting, and being part of community can look like with a focus on these pursuits. ________________ Finding a school where your children can thrive, while avoiding contributing to the ongoing segregation we see today, can feel like a tough issue for socially conscious parents. Check out our FREE guide on how you can start engaging with the education system to achieve just that: https://mailchi.mp/integratedschools/start-guide ________________ LINKS: Cultivating Genius: An Equity Framework for Culturally and Historically Responsive Literacy - https://bookshop.org/a/18658/9781338594898 Unearthing Joy: A Guide to Culturally and Historically Responsive Curriculum and Instruction - https://bookshop.org/a/18658/9781338856606 The Secret Life of Plants - https://bookshop.org/a/18658/9780060915872 Use these links or start at our Bookshop.org storefront to support local bookstores, and send a portion of the proceeds back to us. - https://bookshop.org/shop/IntegratedSchools Join our Patreon to support this work, and connect with us and other listeners to discuss these issues even further. - https://www.patreon.com/integratedschools Let us know what you think of this episode, suggest future topics, or share your story with us – IntegratedSchools on Facebook, or email us podcast@integratedschools.org. The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits. This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits. Music by Kevin Casey. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy | 54m 36s | ||||||
| 4/16/25 | ![]() What Was Lost: Noliwe Rooks on The Failures of Integration | “At its inception, in the courts, and as a project, integration was deeply contested and Black people were deeply divided about it. ” – Dr. Noliwe Rooks The common narrative about integration often frames it as a clear victory—a moment when American education finally confronted injustice. But Dr. Noliwe Rooks argues the reality is far more complicated. In her new book, Integrated: How American Schools Failed Black Children, she traces the history of Black education, showing how the pursuit of desegregation sometimes led to profound losses for Black communities. In this conversation, Dr. Rooks discusses the overlooked sacrifices Black communities made as schools integrated, from the closure of vibrant Black-led schools to the erasure of Black educators’ roles and perspectives. Through the story of 4 generations of her own family, she reveals how integration initiatives frequently dismissed Black voices and visions for education, leaving systemic inequities intact. This episode challenges us to rethink what integration truly means, and what’s required if education is to fulfill its promise of justice and liberation for all students. ________________ Finding a school where your children can thrive, while avoiding contributing to the ongoing segregation we see today, can feel like a tough issue for socially conscious parents. Check out our FREE guide on how you can start engaging with the education system to achieve just that: Download the guide now - https://mailchi.mp/integratedschools/start-guide ________________ LINKS: Integrated: How American Schools Failed Black Children - https://bookshop.org/a/18658/9780553387391 A Passionate Mind in Relentless Pursuit: The Vision of Mary McLeod Bethune - https://bookshop.org/a/18658/9780593492420 Cutting School: The Segrenomics of American Education - https://bookshop.org/a/18658/9781620975985 S6E9 – BvB@67 – Noliwe Rooks Revisited – Dr. Rooks from our Brown v Board anniversary series - https://integratedschools.org/podcast/s6e9-bvb67-noliwe-rooks-revisited/ S11E9: The Containment: Michelle Adams on Northern Jim Crow - https://integratedschools.org/podcast/s11e9-the-containment-michelle-adams-on-northern-jim-crow/ No Choice Is the “Right” Choice: Black Parents’ Educational Decision-Making in Their Search for a “Good” School – Dr. Linn Posey-Maddox - https://meridian.allenpress.com/her/article-abstract/91/1/38/464262/No-Choice-Is-the-Right-Choice-Black-Parents?redirectedFrom=fulltext S10E14 – Jim Crow’s Pink Slip with Dr. Leslie Fenwick - https://integratedschools.org/podcast/s10e14-jim-crows-pink-slip-with-dr-leslie-fenwick/ Ep 11 – White Women and the Politics of White Supremacy - https://integratedschools.org/podcast/mcrae/ Use these links or start at our Bookshop.org storefront to support local bookstores, and send a portion of the proceeds back to us. - https://bookshop.org/shop/IntegratedSchools Join our Patreon to support this work, and connect with us and other listeners to discuss these issues even further. - https://www.patreon.com/integratedschools Let us know what you think of this episode, suggest future topics, or share your story with us – IntegratedSchools on Facebook, or email us podcast@integratedschools.org. The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits. This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits. Music by Kevin Casey. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy | 59m 08s | ||||||
| 4/2/25 | ![]() Finding Hope, Together | Last month, integration advocates from around the country gathered for the National Coalition on School Diversity's National Conference to discuss where we find ourselves in this difficult moment. From policy makers to researchers, school leaders to equity advocates, the conference featured many of the brightest minds focusing on how we build up and support an education system that serves all children well. Despite the challenges to education, especially public education, not to mention multiracial public education, attending the conference was inspiring and sustaining. To see several hundred people gather in the face of pushback to reaffirm our commitment to the project of integration provided much needed hope in troubling times. Today we share some conversations with folks from the conference who are committed to a better world and finding hope where they can. LINKS: The National Coalition on School Diversity - http://school-diversity.org/ S10E18 – The 70th Anniversary of Brown v Board – Do It Live! - https://integratedschools.org/podcast/s10e18-the-70th-anniversary-of-brown-v-board-do-it-live/ S11E9: The Containment: Michelle Adams on Northern Jim Crow - https://integratedschools.org/podcast/s11e9-the-containment-michelle-adams-on-northern-jim-crow/ NAACP LDF on The Dept of Ed's Dear Colleague Letter - https://www.naacpldf.org/education-department-anti-opportunity-letter-federal-funding/ Visit our Bookshop.org storefront to support local bookstores, and send a portion of the proceeds back to us. - http://bookshop.org/shop/IntegratedSchools Join our Patreon to support this work, and connect with us and other listeners to discuss these issues even further. - http://patreon.com/integratedschools Let us know what you think of this episode, suggest future topics, or share your story with us – IntegratedSchools on Facebook, or email us podcast@integratedschools.org. The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits. This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits. Music by Kevin Casey. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy | 38m 36s | ||||||
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