
The Cost of Consumer Churches with Andrew Osenga
From The Last Service Podcast by Last Service Solutions, LLC
November 10, 2025 · 49 min · Episode 34
About this episode
Matt McGee talks with Andrew Osenga about the challenges facing the American church and the importance of conflict for church health.
In this episode of The Last Service Podcast, Matt McGee talks with songwriter and author Andrew Osenga about the forces reshaping the American church—from the Amazonification of congregations to the loss of authentic community and the pastoral courage needed to face decline. Together they explore why conflict is essential for church health, how consumer-driven growth has built bigger churches but reached fewer people, and why today’s leaders must recover a richer vocabulary for endings, grief, and faithful transition.
People in this episode
Host: Matt McGee
Guest: Andrew Osenga
Topics covered
- American church
- consumer churches
- authentic community
- pastoral courage
- church health
- conflict
- growth
- endings
- grief
- faithful transition
Keywords
- consumer-driven growth
- bigger churches
- church decline
Mentioned in this episode
Books & works: The Cost of Consumer Churches
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