The Learning Future Podcast with Louka Parry

In this episode, Louka Parry speaks with architect, urban designer and author Danish Kurani about the powerful but often overlooked role of physical space in shaping how we think, feel and learn. From classrooms and homes to supermarkets and cities, Danish argues that design is never neutral. It influences behaviour, wellbeing, creativity and connection in ways we rarely notice until we learn to see it. Together, they explore what great learning environments require, why flexible furniture alone is not enough, and how educators, leaders and parents can become more intentional designers of the spaces that shape human flourishing.

In this episode, Louka Parry is joined by Justin Reich, Associate Professor of Digital Media at MIT and Director of the MIT Teaching Systems Lab, for a thoughtful conversation about AI, schooling and the future of learning. Together, they explore how generative AI is disrupting familiar classroom practices, why friction and productive struggle still matter deeply for learning, and how schools can respond when there is no clear “best practice” to follow. Justin argues that educators should be cautious of easy answers and instead listen closely to students and teachers, run local experiments, and assess what is actually improving learning rather than just performance. The conversation also dives into assessment, agency, cognition, technology’s mixed record in education, and the importance of humility in a time of rapid change. It’s a rich and grounded discussion about uncertainty, experimentation, and what schools should hold onto as they navigate an AI-shaped future.

In this episode of The Learning Future Podcast, Louka Parry speaks with Professor Pascale Quester, Vice-Chancellor and President of Swinburne University of Technology, about what higher education must become in an age of AI, rapid change and growing complexity. Pascale challenges the deep conservatism that still shapes education, arguing that universities must move beyond inherited models like lectures and exams and instead rethink assessment, learning and capability from the ground up. Together, they explore the role of productive struggle in learning, the difference between friction that supports growth and friction that blocks access, and why authentic assessment matters more than ever.The conversation also examines Swinburne’s bold strategic direction, including its focus on personalised learning, technological infusion, entrepreneurial thinking and global relevance without simply replicating itself everywhere. Pascale makes a compelling case for a more human-centred, adaptive and differentiated university model—one that builds resilience, welcomes discomfort, and prepares learners not just with knowledge or skills, but with the capacity to keep learning for life. At its core, this episode is a powerful reflection on unlearning, transformation and the future of universities in a world that urgently needs stronger, wiser and more capable humans.

In this episode of the Learning Future Podcast, host Louka Parry engages with two Year 11 students, Flynn Thomas and Chelsea Cox, from Hunter Valley Grammar School. They discuss their experiences in education, focusing on themes such as adaptability, time management, the importance of wellbeing, and the role of relational connections in teaching. The conversation also explores student agency, the value of skills over academic scores, and the impact of technology and social media on young people's lives. Flynn and Chelsea share their insights on navigating career pathways and the evolving landscape of education, emphasizing the need for a learning mindset in an unpredictable future.

In this episode of the Learning Future podcast, host Louka Parry engages with futurists Jamais Cascio and Bob Johansen to explore the complexities of navigating the current chaotic landscape, framed by the BANI model. They discuss their personal learning experiences, the implications of technology on human development, and the importance of mentorship across generations. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity in uncertain times and the role of education in fostering resilience and adaptability in students.

In this episode of the Learning Future Podcast, Louka Parry speaks with Kevin Stoller, co-founder and CEO of K12, about the evolving landscape of education. They discuss the need for a shift from traditional educational models to more student-centered approaches that prioritize authentic learning experiences. Kevin shares insights on the importance of creating engaging learning environments, the role of agency in education, and the necessity of innovation in teaching practices. The conversation also touches on global perspectives on education, the significance of data in driving educational success, and the vision for a future where students are empowered to take ownership of their learning.

In this enlightening conversation, Louka Parry and Peter Hayward explore the realms of foresight and future studies, emphasizing the importance of personal transformation, the role of Stoicism, and the evolving landscape of education. They discuss how engaging with the future involves understanding our fears and hopes, the significance of endings, and the need for new institutions that prioritize human connection and critical thinking. The dialogue encourages listeners to embrace the future with courage and creativity, recognizing the potential for growth and change.

In this deeply moving and expansive episode, Louka Parry is joined by Luis Alberto Camargo, founder of OpEPA and leading voice in nature-based education, to explore what it means to learn as nature, not just about it. Together, they delve into how education systems can move from knowledge transmission to relational, regenerative learning that reawakens our connection to self, others, and the living Earth.Luis shares a vision of education rooted in wonder, silence, and interbeing—where schools become ecosystems, teachers become guides, and learning is life itself. He also challenges the dominant economic narrative, offering instead a pluriversal, multi-capital framework that values vitality, culture, and the health of bioregions.If we realign purpose across education, economics, and community, what might be possible in 10 years? Luis offers a hopeful—and urgent—invitation to remember who we are, reweave our relations, and act in service of life.

In this rich and expansive conversation, Professor Martin Westwell, Chief Executive of the South Australian Department for Education, joins Louka Parry to explore the deep shifts required in education to truly prepare young people for the complexity of today’s world. From the role of dispositions and student agency to the transformational potential of generative AI in classrooms, the dialogue challenges dichotomous thinking and calls for a purpose-driven, flexible, and learning-focused education system. Together, they unpack what it means to shift from achiever to explorer and build a system where students thrive—not just perform.

What if peaceful system transformation isn’t led from the top, but from within — through the everyday choices of those embedded in the system?In a world craving certainty, how might we learn to embrace dissonance and cracks as the starting points of meaningful change?Episode SummaryIn this episode of The Learning Future Podcast, Louka Parry speaks with renowned systems thinker and facilitator Adam Kahane, author of Everyday Habits for Transforming Systems. Drawing on more than 30 years of global experience—including his involvement in South Africa’s democratic transition—Adam explores how radical engagement and individual agency contribute to peaceful system transformation. Together, Louka and Adam unpack the hidden grammars of schooling, the pitfalls of top-down reform, and the power of everyday habits to drive sustainable change. From Leonard Cohen to the Bhagavad Gita, this conversation is a deep and practical exploration of how we might lead with love and power in a time of profound flux.About Adam KahaneAdam Kahane has more than 30 years of experience in more than 50 countries working with thousands of leaders to transform social systems at all scales (organization, city, country, globe). His work has addressed many of the most important challenges of our time, including racial oppression, violent conflict among warring groups in countries, insecurity and inequity, drug problems, social unrest, unsustainable food systems, and climate change. Kahane is a bestselling author whose five previous books each have sold between 20,000 and 100,000 copies: Solving Tough Problems, Power and Love, Transformative Scenario Planning, Collaborating with the Enemy, and Facilitating Breakthrough. He is the director of Reos Partners, an international social enterprise that helps people move forward together on their most important and intractable issues.

What if the key to transformative leadership lies not in having answers, but in asking the right questions?How can embracing curiosity over certainty revolutionize our approach to education and organizational growth?In this episode, Jeff Wetzler delves into the transformative power of asking questions and how it can unlock hidden wisdom within organizations and educational systems. He introduces the “Ask Approach,” a five-step method designed to foster deeper understanding and innovation by tapping into the insights of those around us. Jeff shares personal anecdotes and professional experiences that highlight the importance of curiosity, psychological safety, and active listening in leadership and learning. Listeners will gain practical tools to enhance their decision-making processes, build stronger relationships, and drive meaningful change in their communities.Jeff Wetzler is an expert in learning and human potential, with over 25 years of experience spanning business and education. He is the co-founder and former co-CEO of Transcend, a nonprofit organization dedicated to transforming learning environments through human-centered design and innovation. Prior to Transcend, Jeff served as Chief Learning Officer at Teach For America and worked as a management consultant at Monitor Group, advising Fortune 500 companies. He holds a Doctorate in Adult Learning and Leadership from Columbia University and a Bachelor’s in Psychology from Brown University. Jeff is also the author of Ask: Tap Into the Hidden Wisdom of People Around You for Unexpected Breakthroughs in Leadership and Life. Share your thoughts with us on social media or visit our website www.thelearningfuture.com.

How might we design AI not just to personalize learning, but to truly make it personal, enabling each learner to discover and design their own purpose? What would professional development look like if it mirrored the learning experiences we aspire to give young people—human-centered, delightful, and deeply relevant? In this rich and forward-looking conversation on The Learning Future Podcast, host Louka Parry is joined by Sunanna Chand, Executive Director of the Reinvention Lab at Teach For America. Together, they explore the future of learning, focusing on how artificial intelligence (AI), human-centered design, and learning ecosystems can unlock new educational possibilities. Sunanna shares insights into Future Shock, a project-based program that equips young people with the skills to design their own futures—combining interest-based learning with strategic uses of AI. She also reflects on the need to design professional learning for educators with the same joy, relevance, and depth we desire for students. The conversation touches on AI’s potential as both a partner and a risk, advocating for technology that enhances human connection rather than replacing it. Together, Louka and Sunanna unpack how we might move from standardized education to personalized, purpose-driven learning while acknowledging the real constraints educators face. They stress the power of networks, radical imagination, and equitable design in reshaping learning for the 21st century. About Sunanna Chand: Sunanna Chand is the Executive Director of the Reinvention Lab at Teach For America, where she leads future-focused R&D efforts to reshape education through design, equity, and innovation. With a background spanning learning ecosystems, human-centered design, and system transformation, she previously led Remake Learning, fostering district-level change through powerful cross-sector networks. A passionate advocate for learner agency and equity, Sunanna explores how tools like AI can support—not supplant—human connection in education. She is a national voice for reimagining what high-quality, personal, and purposeful learning can look like for all young people. Stay Connected with Sunanna Chand: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sunannachand/ Learn more about the Reinvention Lab: reinventionlab.org Stay Connected with Louka Parry: For the latest learning innovation follow Louka on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/loukaparry/ Share your thoughts by visiting www.thelearningfuture.com Tune in to be inspired, challenged, and reminded why love truly is at the heart of learning.Tune in to be inspired, challenged, and reminded why love truly is at the heart of learning.Share your thoughts with us on social media or visit our website www.thelearningfuture.com.

What if Emotional Intelligence Was as Essential as Math? Are We Truly Preparing our peers to Lead with Emotional Intelligence?In this special episode of The Learning Future Podcast, host Louka Parry welcomes back the podcast’s inaugural guest, Professor Marc Brackett, a global authority on emotional intelligence and founder of Yale University’s Center for Emotional Intelligence. They dive deep into the significance of emotional education, reflecting on how far the field has come and the challenges that lie ahead in embedding emotional intelligence into schools, workplaces, and communities.Marc shares personal stories, research insights, and practical strategies to build emotional intelligence systems, such as the RULER framework. Together, they explore questions like why emotions matter more than ever in today’s world, the importance of implementation in education reform, and how to create environments where people feel truly cared for.What You’ll Learn: • The origins and evolution of the RULER emotional intelligence framework. • Why emotional intelligence is a necessity, not a luxury, for navigating life’s challenges. • How to create emotionally intelligent schools and workplaces. • The critical role of adult emotional education in shaping young minds. • Marc’s reflections on technology’s impact on emotional health and practical strategies to address it. • Inspiring stories about how emotional intelligence transforms communities.Key Quotes: • “Every child deserves one adult who is irrationally crazy about them.” – Uri Bronfenbrenner, shared by Marc. • “Emotions aren’t gendered—they’re what make us human.” • “It’s not about fixing people; it’s about creating environments where they feel seen and heard.”About Marc Brackett:Marc Brackett is the founding director of the Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence, a professor at Yale University, and author of the bestselling book Permission to Feel. His work focuses on integrating emotional intelligence into education systems and organizations to improve outcomes for children and adults worldwide.Resources Mentioned: • RULER Framework for Emotional Intelligence • Book: Permission to Feel by Marc Brackett • Studies on social-emotional learning and their impactJoin the Conversation:What resonated most with you about emotional intelligence and its role in education and life? Share your thoughts with us on social media or visit our website www.thelearningfuture.com.