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Episode 71: Looking Back on 10 Years of The Lonely Palette (with Julie Shapiro)
Jun 23, 2026
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TLP Interview with Helena De Groot, Audio Producer and Sound Artist
Apr 7, 2026
1h 35m 57s
TLP Interview with The Cheeky Scholar
Sep 26, 2025
1h 22m 03s
Bonus - Why Public Radio Matters: A Conversation Between Rumble Strip's Erica Heilman and Jay Allison
Sep 5, 2025
26m 10s
In Plain Sight - Ep. 3: "Go Deeper"
Aug 7, 2025
20m 56s
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| 6/23/26 | ![]() Episode 71: Looking Back on 10 Years of The Lonely Palette (with Julie Shapiro) | "Art isn't what you see. It's what you help others see." - Edgar Degas | "Close your eyes/sometimes it helps." - Rhianna A little over ten years ago, on May 4th, 2016, I swallowed hard and hit publish on my very first episode of The Lonely Palette. I had the domain, I had the website, I had a mic and closet, and I had a dream. Public radio, someday, but for now, speak the art history lecture I'd always wanted to hear in school, the one that would remind people that artists were human beings too, and that art history and art museums weren't only for the snootiest amongst us. That first episode led to a second, and a third, and here I am, a decade later, millions of downloads under my belt, feeling that same pressure, curiosity, excitement, dread, and magic, every single day. Milestones are both arbitrary and quite useful. It matters to stop, look around, look back. And it feels good to talk, and to be listened to. So I asked my friend and colleague, Julie Shapiro, the best listener in the biz, to sit down with me and talk about art, craft, the changing industry, failure, and success. Ten years of making a show entirely by myself - and entirely for the love of it. Enjoy. Music used: The Blue Dot Sessions, "Helado," "Red City Theme," "Paper Feather" Haas, Kowert, Tice, "The Decade" Support the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 4/7/26 | ![]() TLP Interview with Helena De Groot, Audio Producer and Sound Artist✨ | audio artmemoir+4 | Helena De Groot | The Blue Dot SessionsCBC+7 | — | audio makerCreation Myth+5 | — | 1h 35m 57s | |
| 9/26/25 | ![]() TLP Interview with The Cheeky Scholar✨ | freedom of speechart criticism+3 | Dr. Lara Ayad | The Cheeky ScholarAnselm Kiefer+1 | — | freedom of speechcensorship+3 | — | 1h 22m 03s | |
| 9/5/25 | ![]() Bonus - Why Public Radio Matters: A Conversation Between Rumble Strip's Erica Heilman and Jay Allison✨ | public radiofederal defunding+3 | Erica HeilmanJay Allison | Rumble StripTransom+1 | — | public radiodefunding+4 | — | 26m 10s | |
| 8/7/25 | ![]() In Plain Sight - Ep. 3: "Go Deeper"✨ | Modern artMuseum experience+3 | — | National Gallery of ArtRothko | — | Modernismart movements+3 | — | 20m 56s | |
| 7/31/25 | ![]() In Plain Sight - Ep. 2: "Listen Closer"✨ | art appreciationmuseum experience+3 | Emily Pegues | National Gallery of ArtThe Blue Dot Sessions+9 | — | museumcurator+6 | — | 25m 22s | |
| 7/24/25 | ![]() In Plain Sight - Ep. 1: "Look Longer"✨ | art museum experiencevisitor perspectives+3 | — | National Gallery of Art | Washington, DC | art museumvisitor experience+5 | — | 25m 49s | |
| 7/4/25 | ![]() Ep. 70 - Norman Rockwell's "Freedom of Speech" (1943)✨ | freedom of speechNorman Rockwell+3 | — | The Andrews SistersThe Blue Dot Sessions | — | Norman Rockwellfreedom of speech+5 | — | 38m 25s | |
| 5/12/25 | ![]() TLP Interview with Judith Wechsler, Art Historian and Filmmaker✨ | art historyfilmmaking+3 | Judith Wechsler | — | Paris | Judith Wechslerart historian+5 | — | 47m 38s | |
| 4/4/25 | ![]() Ep. 69 - Yee Sookyung's "Translated Vase" (2011)✨ | artvulnerability+4 | — | The Blue Dot SessionsTranslated Vase | — | Yee SookyungTranslated Vase+6 | — | 23m 40s | |
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| 3/7/25 | ![]() TLP Interview with Annea Lockwood, Artist and Composer✨ | sound artlistening+4 | Annea Lockwood | Sound MapsBrer Rhetta+2 | — | Annea Lockwoodsound+5 | — | 1h 06m 21s | |
| 2/21/25 | ![]() Ep. 68 - Felix Gonzalez-Torres' "Untitled (March 5th) #2" (1991) | "The only thing permanent is change." - Felix Gonzalez-TorresThere is no way around it. The work of Felix Gonzalez-Torres, a gay, Cuban-American artist who responded to - and died during - the AIDS crisis of the 1980s and 90s, is sad. His work is a memorial, both to a lost generation and to his own partner, Ross. Yet it is through these seemingly banal, industrial, or every day materials, and the powerful metaphor that they represent, that we can best get to the root of what loss can mean. And, maybe, healing as well.See the images.Music used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “A Little Powder,” “Lerennis,” “Taoudella,” “The Melt,” “Rafter”Open Book, “Second Chance”Episode sponsors:Art of CrimeThe Seattle PrizeVisual Arts PassageSmartist AppWith extra special thanks to Martin Young.Support the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 2/7/25 | ![]() TLP Interview with Sebastian Smee, Art Critic, The Washington Post | “In the end, what interests me is the way art connects with life. Because otherwise, I don’t quite understand what it’s for.” - Sebastian SmeeSebastian Smee has been the art critic for the Washington Post since 2018, but has written extensively about art for every publication you can think of, from here to his native Australia, and winning a Pulitzer prize for criticism along the way. Both his prose and his love of the work leaps off the page and into your lap, offering a guiding hand past the velvet rope, not just for his readers, but for himself: he’s a critic who is constantly looking inward, curious about his own responses to artworks, and what it can teach him about teaching us.Sebastian joined me to discuss his latest book, “Paris in Ruins: Love, War, and the Birth of Impressionism,” as well as writers on writing, becoming an expert about a movement on deadline, how looking back at the muddiness of a historical moment can help us understand the muddiness of ours, and what happens when art critics are themselves at a loss for the words to express why they just love this or that painting so darn much.See the images.Music used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “Town Market,” “Night Light,” “Brass Buttons”Episode sponsor:The Art of Crime PodcastSupport the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 1/27/25 | ![]() Ep. 67 - Cy Twombly's "Second Voyage to Italy (Second Version), 1962" | "My line does not illustrate. It is the sensation of its own realization." - Cy TwomblyCritics have described the work of consummate scribbler Cy Twombly as at once "barely there" and overly academic, but what about us art civilians? What is it about these half-baked scraps, scratch, and scrawl that speaks to our own creative impulses, our own inner children dying to grab the crayon and crush the tip in an ecstatic series of fat, juicy loopdeloops?See the images.Music used:The Andrews Sisters, "Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen"The Blue Dot Sessions, “Inessential,” “Tiny Putty,” “A Burst of Light,” Palms Down,” “Parade Shoes,” “City Limits”Episode sponsor:The Art of Crime PodcastSupport the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 1/16/25 | ![]() Official Trailer: The Lonely Palette's Upcoming Season | This season, we've got a stellar line-up: Cy Twombly, Lawren Harris, Käthe Kollwitz, and Felix Gonzalez-Torres, to name just a few. We've got interviews with the Washington Post's Sebastian Smee, the artist and composer Annea Lockwood, and more. We've got a whole National Gallery residency! So listen and subscribe, rate and review, and fire up your earbuds for another season of looking with your ears.If you support the work we do, consider becoming a patron, or simply leaving us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 11/1/24 | ![]() Bonus - Introducing "The Rabbis Go South" | Tamar is alive! The Lonely Palette is alive! But in the year since we last spoke, she's been elbow-deep in audio projects galore - good for the pocketbook, but bad for independent art history podcast productivity. But your patience will be rewarded! And in the meantime, a few announcements:- Join me and my fellow H&S colleagues at the PRX Podcast Garage in Allson, MA on Wednesday, November 6 for an evening of audio camaraderie. Register here.- Explore our Hub & Spoke Expo showcase, starting with the first episode of our very first exclusive Expo series, "The Rabbis Go South." (All episodes now available!)Imagine 16 American rabbis jailed for acting on their beliefs. The Rabbis Go South is a thrilling seven-part narrative podcast that uncovers a true story of Jewish-Black solidarity in St. Augustine, Florida during the Civil Rights Movement. An inspiring tale of hope for a divided world.The Rabbis Go South was created by documentary filmmakers Amy Geller and Gerald Peary. It’s a presentation of the Hub & Spoke Expo. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 3/7/24 | ![]() Ep. 66 - Bringing Monuments Home (from PRX's Monumental) | In this special episode of The Lonely Palette, I’m sharing the episode I made for the PRX limited-run podcast series "Monumental," which interrogates the state of monuments across the greater U.S. and what their future says about where we are now and where we’re going.This was the concluding episode, exploring how some monuments are larger than life, dwarfing us, making us feel small relative to the grandness of history. But what if a monument was human-scaled? What if it made us aware of our bodies in space? We don’t often think about the design choices that go into making a monument, but more and more, a new generation of artists and designers are reimagining what a monument can look and feel like, and the kinds of stories they can hold.This episode takes us to Montgomery, Alabama to the National Memorial for Peace and Justice, to Shreveport, Louisiana, to the South Side of Chicago, to Navajo Nation in Arizona. It explores how many American monuments to slavery took inspiration from Holocaust memorials in Germany. And it looks at decentralized memorials that are using technology to help bring monuments to the past into the future. Listen to the Monumental podcast series. See the images. Support the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 2/14/24 | ![]() Bonus - The Hub & Spoke Radio Hour | The Lonely Palette, as you've heard so often, is an enormously proud founding member of the Hub & Spoke Audio Collective, a group of fiercely independent, story-driven, mind-expanding podcasts. Since 2017, we've supported each other while forging our own paths, prioritizing craft and humane storytelling above all else.Now, if you haven't noticed, media in general, and podcasting in particular, is in a space some may generously call post-apocalyptic. But an incredible silver lining is that the industry is now recognizing how important independence is. We've been here all along, and with your support, we're not going anywhere.Please enjoy a bonus episode of the Hub & Spoke Radio Hour, a tasty sampler of a few of our shows in a dapper audio package. Today's theme is love. As the philosopher Haddaway once asked, what is love? It turns out, love can be anything that stirs the heart: passion, grief, affection, kin. The desire to consume; the poignancy of memory. Here at Hub & Spoke, we want to stretch our arms, and ears, around it all.This episode is hosted by Lori Mortimer and edited by Tamar Avishai. Production assistance from Nick Andersen. Music by Evalyn Parry, The Blue Dot Sessions, and a kiss of Dionne Warwick.Listen to the full episodes:- Rumble Strip, “Forrest Foster Lays Karen to Rest”- Mementos “Cherie’s Letters”- Ministry of Ideas, “Consumed”- The Lonely Palette, “Jean-Honoré Fragonard's The Desired Moment (c. 1770)”You can also share the love by supporting our Valentine’s Day fundraiser: www.hubspokeaudio.org/love Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 12/29/23 | ![]() TLP Interview with Lucy R. Lippard, Art Writer | Since her arrival on the art scene in the 1960s, legendary art writer Lucy Lippard’s work - searing, novelistic, crisp, and endlessly curious - as well as her insights, activism, entrenchment in the art world, and friendships have secured her role as one of the most important minds in art criticism of her generation.Now, at 86 years old, all of the stuff that she’s collected along the way – photographs, drawings, relationships, grandchildren – is the subject of her new memoir, or, actually, what she calls “Stuff (Instead of a Memoir).” She joined me to talk about the book, but also more than 60 years of writing about art in the way that centered life. After all, “art,” she often quotes, “is what makes life more interesting than art.” Art is the artists, the world they inhabit, their shared cultural references, their shared understanding of the art world and art history. Their human experiences rendered in paint. The stuff they leave behind. Music Used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “Lacquer Groove,” “Hardwood Lullaby” Episode Webpage Support the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 10/13/23 | ![]() TLP Interview with Prudence Peiffer, Author & Content Director, MoMA | In the 1950s and 60s, Coenties Slip—an obscure street on the lower tip of Manhattan overlooking the East River—was home to some of the most iconic artists in history, and who would define American Art during their time there: Robert Indiana, Ellsworth Kelly, Agnes Martin, James Rosenquist, Delphine Seyrig, Lenore Tawney, and Jack Youngerman. As friends and inspirations to one another, these artists created a unique community for unbridled creative expression and experimentation.Prudence Peiffer is the kind of art historian who understands the importance of context and place, and her book, “The Slip: The New York City Street that Changed American Art Forever” provides the kind of rich context and human detail that textbooks could only dream of. She joined me to discuss the history of these artists, why we have such a hard time seeing artists as people, the friction between accessible artists and their inaccessible art, why watching Robert Indiana eat a mushroom for 39 minutes is actually totally beautiful, and what it means to authentically nudge art history towards inclusion. See the images Music used:The Blue Dot Session, “Skyforager”Rufus Wainwright, “11:11” Support the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 10/3/23 | ![]() Bonus - The Lonely Palette Reads Tom Wolfe's The Painted Word | Taking a break from writing about astronauts, Tom Wolfe donned his white suit and strolled to the art museums of New York City, letting the incomprehensible literary works of the movement wash over him like a warm bath of clam broth, and producing what, in the words of art critic Rosalind Krauss, "hit the art world like a really bad, MSG-headache-producing, Chinese lunch." For you, dear listeners, here is the headache-inducing introduction to "The Painted Word," read aloud, as was always intended. This free preview is available to all listeners, but the full chapter, and all future chapters, will be going to $2 (and above) per episode patrons, so pledge that support to find out just what in the heck Wolfe defines as an "apache dance." It's so not what you think it is that it might just be what you think it is. The next chapter will be released on Tuesday, October 17. Don't miss a word, painted or otherwise, by becoming a patron. | — | ||||||
| 9/14/23 | ![]() Bonus - The Lonely Palette Reads Giorgio Vasari on Sandro Botticelli | Giorgio Vasari (1511-74) may have gone down in history as the very first Western art historian, but he is also a messy bench who loves drama, and we are here for it. Listen to his take on Sandro Botticelli from “The Lives of the Artists” (Bondanella trans., 1991), particularly his practical jokes, from which no friend or neighbor escaped unscathed. | — | ||||||
| 9/12/23 | ![]() Ep. 65 - Sandro Botticelli's "The Birth of Venus" (1485-86) | I can't help the way I'm feeling/Goddess of love, please take me to your leader/I can't help, I keep on dancing. - Lady GagaThe neoplatonic ideal of beauty, the girl on the half-shell, the naked chick riding a clam. Her tilted head and fluttery hair are recognized by everyone and their grandma, but no one - experts included - can explain just why in the heck this painting is so iconic. Shell we take on the challenge?See the images.Music used:Django Reinhardt, “Django’s Tiger”Joan Baez, “Diamonds and Rust”The Blue Dot Sessions, “TwoPound,” “Coulis Coulis,” “Delmendra,” “No Smoking,” “Belle Anette,” “Rue Severine,” “Ranch Hand,” “Pastel de Nata,” “Khfett”Lady Gaga, “Venus”Episode sponsor:The Art of Crime PodcastSupport the show by becoming a patron or by just sending us a tip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. | — | ||||||
| 8/4/23 | ![]() Ep. 64 - Barbara Kruger's "Untitled (Your Body is a Battleground)" (1989) | In April 1989, Barbara Kruger - an artist, activist, and former magazine layout editor - created a flyer for a pro-choice women’s march in Washington, DC to protest the Supreme Court’s potential overturning of Roe vs. Wade. This flyer, though, was never meant to be a picket sign. Instead, it has become a timeless artwork all its own: directly addressing any viewer from any era, demanding they confront their own politics, and drawing the battle lines between all the external - and internal - tensions that exist not only within the parameters of the abortion debate, but within women themselves. | — | ||||||
| 7/5/23 | ![]() Ep. 63 - James Abbot McNeill Whistler's "Symphony in White No. 1: The White Girl" (1861-62) | Whether for his critics, his friends(...?), or his canvases, the Victorian-era, Gilded-age Aesthetic ex-pat painter James Abbott McNeill Whistler had one motto: float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. | — | ||||||
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