The MAKE IT Podcast

Hello, Hello!In this episode, AI Hosts Alex Ivey and Allison Inverness dive deep into the remarkable career of London-based filmmaker and visual effects artist Magali Barbe, whose passion project short film Strange Beasts went viral overnight and landed her offers from 20th Century Fox and top Hollywood talent agencies. They explore how her 13 years as a pre-visualization artist on blockbuster films like Wonder Woman, Avengers: Endgame, and Fantastic Beasts gave her the technical foundation to create an independently produced short film so polished that Hollywood executives assumed it was a multi-million dollar studio production. The conversation broadens into a sweeping philosophical examination of how digital technology — from augmented reality and deepfakes to social media algorithms and genetic manipulation — is fundamentally reshaping human connection, perception, and society itself.We also talk about:The psychological toll of spending over a decade executing someone else's creative vision as a pre-visualization artist, and how that frustration became the fuel for Magali's creative pivot into independent filmmakingThe deliberate design philosophy behind the robot Max in This Time Away — specifically, why giving a futuristic robot the texture and finish of a 1970s kitchen appliance was a calculated psychological choice rooted in the uncanny valley theoryThe structural and cultural differences between the French and British film industries, including how France's government-subsidized CNC system creates institutional bureaucracy, while the UK's scarcity of funding forces a passionate, grassroots DIY filmmaking cultureThe concept of a "water bottle tour" in Hollywood — the grueling marathon of studio meetings that newly signed talent must endure, which functions less as a pitch session and more as a high-stakes personality and temperament auditThe piano chord metaphor shared by Chris Barkley in the original interview, which equates the musical necessity of space between notes to the human need for distance and breathing room in relationships, and how modern technology's relentless drive to eliminate friction may be destroying the beautiful music of genuine human connectionPeople, Places, Products, and References Mentioned:PeopleMagali Barbe (filmmaker/VFX artist)David Heyman (producer)Timothy Spall (stars in This Time Away)Tom Cruise (deepfake example)Films & ProjectsStrange Beasts (her viral short)This Time Away (her second short)Wonder Woman (previs)Kingsman: The Golden Circle (previs)Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them (previs)Avengers: Endgame (previs)WALL-E (robot design reference)Companies, Organizations & PlatformsVimeo20th Century Studios (formerly 20th Century Fox)United Talent Agency (UTA)CNC (Centre National du Cinéma)Silicon ValleyConcepts & TechnologiesPre-visualization (Previz)Augmented Reality (AR)The Uncanny ValleyDeepfakesCRISPRBully Whippets (myostatin / double-muscling)The Marketplace of Ideas"Move Fast and Break Things"Water Bottle Tour — industry-ritual slang for a series of back-to-back Studio meetingsThe Piano / F♯ and F♮ Metaphor — Chris Barkley's original analogy about conflict when one note (or person) smothers anotherWe are humbled to have a community of creatives who care deeply about our work. And your support makes our work possible. Every subscriber, rating, and review matters. So, if you like what we're doing, please consider subscribing, rating, or giving us a review. Cheers, and best of luck on your filmmaking journey. #MAKEITSubscribe: https://themakeitpodcast.store/shop/supportAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This episode is brought to you by Shopify. Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at www.shopify.com/makeitHello, Hello! In this episode, filmmaker and director Motke Dapp returns to discuss his journey from a nomadic childhood to becoming a successful commercial director and feature filmmaker. The conversation explores the realities of independent filmmaking, the importance of building a creative community, and the challenges of balancing artistic vision with commercial viability. Motke shares insights from his experience directing Another Version of You and his current work creating commercials for Whisker's Litter Robot.We also talk about:• The essential tools needed to start filmmaking and building a crew through community connections• Whether independent filmmakers actually watch independent films, and the time constraints that limit viewing• The role of celebrity and notoriety in achieving commercial success in filmmaking• Handling conflict and collaboration on set while maintaining creative relationships• The choice between making passion projects versus commercially viable filmsPeople, Places, Products, and Websites Mentioned:Micah Simms (cinematographer)Ken Conrad (editor)Nichole Marie LimKim "Cookie" McCrayCiciley HoffmanSara AntonioEcca VandalChristopher NolanA24Ben ProudfootAnother Version of YouTangerinePrimerIron LungSugar GlassSchindler's ListDunkirkHair LoveInocenteDaVinci ResolveCanon 5D Mark camerasRed camerasWhisker (Litter-Robot)MTVKickstarterSeed & Spark48 Hour Film ProjectNashville 54 Hour Film FestSundance Film FestivalDenver, ColoradoNashville, TennesseeMontanaWe are humbled to have a community of creatives who care deeply about our work. And your support makes our work possible. Every subscriber, rating, and review matters. So, if you like what we're doing, please consider subscribing, rating, or giving us a review. Cheers, and best of luck on your filmmaking journey. #MAKEITAll Links: https://themakeitpodcast.storeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Hello, Hello!In this episode, Colombian American writer-director Nick Lopez discusses his journey from an international upbringing to USC film school graduate, sharing insights about his award-winning short films, including "Milk Teeth" and "Sunshine Room." He opens up about the importance of representing queer and Latin American voices in cinema, his collaborative approach to filmmaking, and his current project, "West's Neighborhood," a web series exploring racism in American suburbia. Nick also provides practical advice for aspiring filmmakers about film school, budget constraints, and the creative process.We also talk about:• The challenges and benefits of attending film school versus independent learning • Building compelling short films from "outside in" rather than character-first approaches • The democratization of content through streaming platforms and its impact on diverse storytelling • Working with limited budgets while maintaining high production values • The importance of sound design and practical effects in low-budget filmmakingPeople, Places, Products, and References Mentioned:Nick LopezTiffany Lin Felipe VargasUniversity of Southern California (USC)Milk TeethSunshine RoomFlour BabyPan's LabyrinthGuillermo del ToroRyan MurphyPoseDesperate HousewivesAmerica's Next Top ModelPluto TVnicklopezfilms.comnic.lopezz on InstagramWe are humbled to have a community of creatives who care deeply about our work. And your support makes our work possible. Every subscriber, rating, and review matters. So, if you like what we're doing, please consider subscribing, rating, or giving us a review. Cheers, and best of luck on your filmmaking journey. #MAKEITAll Links: https://themakeitpodcast.storeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Hello, Hello!WHAT IS FILM BRIEF?Blending journalism with artistry, Film Brief transforms film analysis into an engaging and informative listening experience. The goal is to reveal what makes each movie or series resonate—on screen and behind the scenes. For listeners, it’s not just a review; it’s an exploration of the art of filmmaking.BRIEF:In this episode, host Nick explores "Papillon," an animated short film by Florence MIAL that tells the powerful story of Olympic swimmer Alfred Nakash, a Jewish athlete whose life was forever changed by the Holocaust. The film uses hand-painted oil-on-glass animation to create a dreamlike visual experience that flows between memories of triumph and tragedy. Through water as a storytelling metaphor, the film captures themes of memory, resilience, and the quiet power of human dignity in the face of unimaginable loss.TAKEAWAYS:• Florence MIAL's unique oil paint on glass animation technique that creates living, breathing artwork • Alfred Nakash's journey from childhood fear of water to Olympic competition at the 1936 Berlin Olympics • The impact of the Vichy Regime and the Holocaust on Nakash's life and family • The film's success on the international festival circuit and Academy Award nomination • How minimalist storytelling can create maximum emotional impactMENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Florence Miailhe (Director)Marie Desplechin (Co-writer)Alfred NakacheConstantine, AlgeriaBerlin Olympics (1936)Auschwitz concentration campBerlin International Film FestivalAnnecy Animation FestivalClermont-Ferrand Film FestivalAcademy AwardsCésar AwardsCrystal Bear AwardPaint-on-glass animation techniqueEbook: "Mastering Film Marketing"The MAKE IT PodcastWe are humbled to have a community of creatives who care deeply about our work. And your support makes our work possible. Every subscriber, rating, and review matters. So, if you like what we're doing, please consider subscribing, rating, or giving us a review. Cheers, and best of luck on your filmmaking journey. #MAKEITAll Links: https://themakeitpodcast.storeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This episode is brought to you by Anthropic. Claude is the AI for minds that don’t stop at good enough—it's the collaborator that actually understands your entire workflow and thinks WITH you, not for you. Ready to tackle bigger problems? Sign up for Claude Pro when you use our link – www.claude.ai/makeitThis episode is brought to you by Shopify. Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at www.shopify.com/makeit---Hello, Hello!In this Indie Talk, we dive deep into the latest film industry developments, including Netflix's multi-million dollar acquisition of Ben Affleck's AI startup and Google's expansion into micro dramas with Range Media Partners. We explore how AI is reshaping filmmaking workflows, debate whether film festivals should include children's programming, and discuss the growing trend of vertical video content in entertainment. We also break down the recent Oscar winners, share audience poll results about preferred film genres, and offer our insights on snubs and surprises from this year's Academy Awards ceremony.We also talk about: • The controversy surrounding Timothy Chalamet's comments about ballet and opera being "irrelevant art forms." • How streaming has changed music structure and incentives, paralleling changes in film content• The disconnect between what audiences watch most (action/adventure at 65%) versus what wins awards (drama/thriller) • International film recommendations, including "No Other Choice" as a major snub • The future of micro dramas and whether they'll follow Quibi's failed model or succeed globallyPeople, Places, Products, and Websites Mentioned:NetflixBen AffleckRange Media PartnersQuibiNew York International Children's Film FestivalOne Battle After AnotherSinnersHamnetF1The BrideFrankensteinPaul Thomas AndersonMichael B. JordanJessie BuckleyConan O'BrienTrevor NoahGaithersburg, MarylandNorth CarolinaSouth CarolinaAustraliaWe are humbled to have a community of creatives who care deeply about our work. And your support makes our work possible. Every subscriber, rating, and review matters. So, if you like what we're doing, please consider subscribing, rating, or giving us a review. Cheers, and best of luck on your filmmaking journey. #MAKEITAll Links: https://themakeitpodcast.storeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Hello, Hello!In this episode, Alex and Allison discuss the unexpected career pivot of Toronto talent agent Teri Ritter, who transitioned from a 30-year career in corporate accounting to managing actors. Inspired by her daughter Maya's success in film, Ritter applied her strategic planning skills to build a profitable roster. They highlight the importance of professionalism in the industry, the risks of a poor digital footprint, and the strategic timing of joining unions. They also touch on the challenges of representing child actors and the evolving roles within the agency, exemplified by Maya's return to the industry as an agent. The conversation underscores the balance between artistic talent and business strategy in the entertainment industry.We also talk about:• The myth that talent alone guarantees success in the entertainment industry • How digital footprints can permanently derail acting careers decades later • Strategic timing for union membership and why joining too early can be career suicide • The toxic dynamics of pushy stage parents and child actors • Maya Ritter's full-circle journey from child star to talent agentPeople, Places, Products, and References Mentioned:Teri Ritter (Toronto Talent Agent) Ritter Talent Agency Maya Ritter (Child actor turned agent) Amy HinesHines Management Mike Lummis (Agent) ACTRA (Canadian actors' union) Julia Roberts Molly Ringwald Toronto Casting CommunityWe are humbled to have a community of creatives who care deeply about our work. And your support makes our work possible. Every subscriber, rating, and review matters. So, if you like what we're doing, please consider subscribing, rating, or giving us a review. Cheers, and best of luck on your filmmaking journey. #MAKEITAll Links: https://themakeitpodcast.storeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

WHAT IS FILM BRIEF?Blending journalism with artistry, Film Brief transforms film analysis into an engaging and informative listening experience. The goal is to reveal what makes each movie or series resonate—on screen and behind the scenes. For listeners, it’s not just a review; it’s an exploration of the art of filmmaking.BRIEF:In this brief, host Nick explores Mary Bronstein's psychological drama "If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You," starring Rose Byrne in a raw portrayal of mental health struggles and emotional collapse. The film defies traditional narrative structures, instead offering an intimate look at a woman whose world slowly fractures under invisible pressures. Through Bronstein's unconventional storytelling approach, the movie forces viewers to confront discomfort and develop empathy for those experiencing quiet psychological crises.TAKEAWAYS:• Mary Bronstein's filmmaking approach and her previous work "Yeast" (2008) • Rose Byrne's dramatic departure from her typical comedic roles • The film's festival circuit premiere on October 10, 2025, and its critical reception • How the ambiguous title serves as a metaphor for helplessness and lost agency • The importance of cinema that prioritizes understanding over entertainmentMENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You (2025)Mary BronsteinRose ByrneYeast (2008)BridesmaidsNeighborsStar WarsDead Poets Society"Mastering Film Marketing: A Filmmaker's Guide to Crafting Impactful Marketing Campaigns for Independent Films"We are humbled to have a community of creatives who care deeply about our work. And your support makes our work possible. Every subscriber, rating, and review matters. So, if you like what we're doing, please consider subscribing, rating, or giving us a review. Cheers, and best of luck on your filmmaking journey. #MAKEITAll Links: https://beacons.ai/themakeitpodcastAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Learn more about Jefferson White here:Hello, Hello!Jefferson White discusses his evolving definition of success in the entertainment industry, emphasizing the importance of having control over creative choices and working with people you care about. He reflects on how his goals have changed from wanting to get on a show like Yellowstone to now prioritizing creative fulfillment and collaborative energy on projects of any size. White shares his perspective that "making it" is an ongoing process rather than a destination, requiring continuous growth and openness to change.We also talk about: • The feeling of helplessness that actors can experience in the entertainment industry • How definitions of success evolve throughout an actor's career • The value of independent filmmaking and creative collaboration • Behind-the-scenes photography as a way to document the creative process • The importance of supporting independent films financially, not just verballyProducts, Software, Websites, People, or Places Mentioned: Jefferson White (actor)Yellowstone (TV show)Drink and Be Merry (independent film)We are humbled to have a community of creatives who care deeply about our work. And your support makes our work possible. Every subscriber, rating, and review matters. So, if you like what we're doing, please consider subscribing, rating, or giving us a review. Cheers, and best of luck on your filmmaking journey. #MAKEITAll Links: https://beacons.ai/themakeitpodcastAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy