The Digital Trail

The Digital Trail

From The Moonshot Podcast by X, The Moonshot Factory

May 6, 2026 · 51 min · Season 2 · Episode 7

About this episode

This episode explores moonshots in cybersecurity and supply chain efficiency.

This episode of The Moonshot Podcast explores two ambitious moonshots focused on bringing "visibility" to the world's most complex and opaque digital and physical systems. First, Astro is joined by Mike Wiacek, Stephen Gillett, and Shapor Naghibzadeh from Chronicle to discuss how they built a digital immune system for cybersecurity, using Google-scale data analysis to detect anomalous activity and combat a global economic threat. Next, Astro speaks with Steven Chen and Suresh Vishnubhatla from Chorus, a moonshot focused on indexing the physical world to address monumental supply chain waste and inefficiency. 0:00 - Intro 01:25 - The "A-ha" moment that started Chronicle 03:35 - Rethinking the future of cybersecurity 05:17 - Building a "Digital Immune System" 11:35 - The terrifying scale of cyberattacks 10 years ago 13:08 - Understanding the 3 tiers of cybercriminals 15:46 - How Chronicle differed from other cybersecurity tools 19:27 - The “Coming Out” party: taking the tech public 21:12 - Returning to Google 23:23 - Memories and lessons learned from their time at X 24:53 - Enter Project Chorus: Meet Steven and Suresh 26:11 - Solving the supply chain’s biggest blind spot 29:41…

People in this episode

Host: Astro

Guests: Mike Wiacek, Stephen Gillett, Shapor Naghibzadeh, Steven Chen, Suresh Vishnubhatla

Topics covered

  • cybersecurity
  • supply chain
  • digital systems
  • data analysis
  • technology

Keywords

  • digital immune system
  • cyberattacks
  • anomalous activity
  • supply chain waste
  • data analysis

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Chronicle, Chorus, Google

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