Series 119 - 4. By-elections, hello defections

About this episode

The episode discusses Labour's internal conflicts, political defections, and the future of British pubs.

On the agenda this week is Starmer vs Burnham in Labour's latest civil war, Suella Braverman's defection to Reform, and working out how to save The Great British pub. To get to the bottom of all this, Andy is joined by Daliso Chaponda, Kiri Pritchard-McLean, Hugo Rifkind and Holly Walsh. Written by Andy Zaltzman. With additional material by: Christina Riggs, Cameron Loxdale and Sarah Mills Producer: Georgia Keating Executive Producer: Pete Strauss Production Coordinator: Jodie Charman Sound Editor: Marc Willcox A BBC Studios Production for Radio 4.

People in this episode

Host: Andy Zaltzman

Guests: Daliso Chaponda, Kiri Pritchard-McLean, Hugo Rifkind, Holly Walsh

Topics covered

• Labour civil war
• political defections
• Great British pub
• current events
• comedy

Keywords

• Labour
• defections
• pubs
• politics
• comedy
• current events

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Reform, BBC Radio 4, BBC Studios

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