
What If This Is the Season That Changes Everything? with Doug Fleener | S8G6
From The No Fruit Podcast by Maurice D. Chism, Sr. and Kafi Chism
April 25, 2026 · 33 min · Season 8
About this episode
The episode discusses unfruitful seasons in marriage and family life with insights from Doug Fleener on personal growth and transformation.
What does an unfruitful season actually look like — and what do you do when you're in one? In this powerful episode of The No Fruit Podcast, Maurice and Kafi meet with author, coach, and speaker Doug Fleener — creator of " The What If Rule" and author of " Start With What If" — for an honest, transformational conversation about the seasons in marriage and family life when nothing seems to be growing. Doug knows this terrain personally. Before the bestselling books, the national speaking stages, and the CEO corner office, he walked through one of the most unfruitful seasons a person can face — addiction that nearly cost him everything. His recovery didn't just restore his life; it gave him a framework for change that now helps couples, parents, and leaders break through the patterns, perspectives, and limiting beliefs keeping them stuck. In this episode, you'll discover: The quiet signs that a marriage or family has stopped bearing fruit How personal unfruitfulness always affects relational health Why small daily choices compound into either fruitfulness or barrenness How to apply The What If Rule directly to your marriage and family life What transformation actually looks like on…
People in this episode
Hosts: Maurice D. Chism, Sr., Kafi Chism
Guest: Doug Fleener
Topics covered
- unfruitful seasons
- marriage
- family life
- transformation
- addiction recovery
- personal growth
Keywords
- unfruitful season
- marriage
- family
- transformation
- addiction
- personal growth
- What If Rule
Mentioned in this episode
Books & works: The What If Rule, Start With What If
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