Annie Crawford and Ashley Lande: Psychedelics and the Incarnation (10/6)

About this episode

Annie Crawford and Ashley Lande discuss psychedelics, personal stories, and their spiritual journeys in relation to Christ.

Annie Crawford and Ashley Lande join Josh Herring for a discussion of psychedelics, their stories, and what people actually long for when they turn to ecstatic experiences. The conversation begins with definitions - what is a psychedelic? What all counts? - and turns to embodiment, a symbolic reading of reality, and the way both guests found their desires met in Christ Jesus. It's a great conversation. Ashley Lande's book, The Thing that would Make Everything OK Forever: Transcendance, Psychdelics, and Jesus Christ - https://www.amazon.com/Thing-That-Would-Everything-Forever/dp/1683597605 Annie Crawford's autobiographical article in Salvo Mag, "A Trip to the Edge: From Psychedelic Wanderlust to Obedience ot Christ" - https://salvomag.com/article/salvo72/a-trip-to-the-edge And just in case you're interested in a book that has nothing to do with this conversation, Josh Herring's new book Sons of Adam, Daughters of Eve: C.S. Lewis's Images of Gender is now available from @Davenant Press! https://davenantinstitute.org/sons-of-adam-daughters-of-eve

People in this episode

Host: Josh Herring

Guests: Annie Crawford, Ashley Lande

Topics covered

• psychedelics
• ecstatic experiences
• embodiment
• Christianity
• personal stories

Keywords

• psychedelics
• Christianity
• embodiment
• ecstatic experiences
• personal stories

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Davenant Press, Salvo Mag

Books & works: The Thing that would Make Everything OK Forever: Transcendance, Psychdelics, and Jesus Christ, A Trip to the Edge: From Psychedelic Wanderlust to Obedience ot Christ, Sons of Adam, Daughters of Eve: C.S. Lewis's Images of Gender

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