The PathPod Podcast

The Chromogen Siblings are back to talk about nomenclature in pleomorphic adenomas with atypia! Dr. Mike Arnold (@MArnold_PedPath), Dr. Andrew Bellizzi (@IHC_guy), and Dr. Sanam Loghavi (@sanamloghavi) speak with Dr. Grayson Cole of University Hospitals of Case Western Reserve University and Dr. Nicole Cipriani (Instagram @nac.ceramics) of the University of Chicago. Hear about their paths to Oral and Head and Neck Pathology, as well as their 2025 article in Head and Neck Pathology: Pleomorphic Adenoma with Epithelial Atypia, Apocrine Metaplasia, and/or In situ/Intracapsular Salivary Duct Carcinoma Are Indolent Lesions with Good Prognosis: A Proposal for Unified Nomenclature and Clinical Observation (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40938457/) Featured public domain music: Alpha Hydrae, Won’t see it comin’

In this segment, Beyond the Scope, we speak to pathologists about their pursuits and interests in and outside of pathology. On this episode, hosts Dr. Kamran Mirza (@KMirza) and Dr. Sara Jiang (@Sara_Jiang) speaks with Dr. Kalisha Hill, Regional Chief Medical Officer for Ascension Illinois (Saint Joseph-Joliet and Saint Mary-Kankakee) and Medical Director of Pathology and Laboratory Services for Ascension Saint Mary-Kankakee. She is the owner of her independent medical practice, Mediexperts, LLC. Hear their conversation about Dr. Hill’s book PINNACLES: Visible and Invisible and her journey as a leader in Pathology and President Elect for the College of American Pathologists. Featured public domain music: US Army Blues, BugaBlue

In this series, PathPod gathers pathologists and trainees Around The Scope to discuss their work in depth. Today, we hear about how trainees in Osteopathic Medical Schools gain exposure to the field of Pathology. Our hosts, Dr. Mike Arnold (@MArnold_PedPath) and Dr. Sara Jiang (@Sara_Jiang) talk with Dr. Meredith Herman (X: @MeredithKHerman TikTok: @meredithkherman), a third year Pathology Resident at the University of Michigan; Dr. Paul Kowalski, Pathologist and Educator at Michigan State University; Dr. Adam Berry (@Aberry_Med) a first year Pathology Resident at the University of Michigan; and Dr. Peace Preston a third year Pathology Resident at the University of Pittsburgh. What variability exists in how Osteopathic Medical Schools gain exposure to the field of Pathology? Hear our guests learned writing their article, A cross-sectional analysis of pathology exposure across COCA-accredited osteopathic medical schools: Gaps and opportunities in pathology undergraduate medical education, and find out how Pathologists can help more Osteopathic Medical Students gain experience in Pathology. Featured article: A cross-sectional analysis of pathology exposure across COCA-accredited osteopathic medical schools: Gaps and opportunities in pathology undergraduate medical education. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/392789084_A_cross-sectional_analysis_of_pathology_exposure_across_COCA-accredited_osteopathic_medical_schools_Gaps_and_opportunities_in_pathology_undergraduate_medical_education Public domain music: Main Stem by US Army Blues

In this series, PathPod gathers pathologists and trainees Around The Scope to discuss their work in depth. Today, we hear about prostate pathology and how optimization of Gleason grading can improve prognostic information. Our hosts, Dr. Mike Arnold (@MArnold_PedPath) and Dr. Andrew Bellizzi (@IHC_guy) talk with Dr. Jesse McKenney, Dr. Jane Nguyen (@janenguyen44) and Dr. Sean Williamson (@Williamson_SR) of the Cleveland Clinic. Hear about how PSA screening changed the biopsies that pathologists see, and how the art and science of re-examining Gleason grading refined prognosis for patients with prostate cancer. Featured articles: Histologic Grading of Prostatic Adenocarcinoma Can Be Further Optimized Analysis of the Relative Prognostic Strength of Individual Architectural Patterns in 1275 Patients From the Canary Retrospective Cohort: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27635949/ Correlation of large cribriform carcinoma and ”unfavorable histology” with other Gleason pattern 4 subtypes: A proof-of-principle study evaluating 485 radical prostatectomy specimens with proposal for the concept of ”borderline histology”: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39644729/ Proposal for an optimised definition of adverse pathology (unfavourable histology) that predicts metastatic risk in prostatic adenocarcinoma independent of grade group and pathological stage: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38828674/ Classification of prostatic adenocarcinoma as favourable/unfavourable histology has high interobserver agreement in prostate needle core biopsies: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40762236/ Public domain music: Main Stem by US Army Blues

In this series, PathPod gathers pathologists and trainees Around The Scope to discuss their work in depth. Today, we hear about social media, from #PathArt to TikTok. Our hosts, Dr. Sara Jiang (@Sara_Jiang) and Dr. Mike Arnold (@MArnold_PedPath) speak with Dr. Meredith Herman (X: @MeredithKHerman TikTok: @meredithkherman) and Julia Kochanowski (TikTok: @myforensicpath) about now pathology and medical education on social media is changing. Hear about how they create for social media, from videos to #PathArt, the connections they’ve made on social media and how their interactions are helping change perceptions about pathology. Public domain music: Main Stem by US Army Blues

In this segment, Beyond the Scope, we speak to pathologists about their pursuits and interests in and outside of pathology. On this episode, host Dr. Sara Jiang (@Sara_Jiang) speaks with Dr. Sean Williamson (@Williamson_SR). Dr. Williamson is Professor of Pathology and Vice Chair of Education at the Cleveland Clinic. He is the Editor In Chief of the International Journal of Surgical Pathology, Co-Author of The Atlas of Genitourinary Pathology: A Pattern Based Approach, and author of nearly 200 peer-reviewed publications. Hear their conversation about the WHO classification of genitourinary tumors, mentorship and peer-reviewed publications. Also, Dr. Williamson shares his best Disney travel tips! Links to papers referenced in the episode: Nephrogenic adenoma origin: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12200552/ SDH-deficient RCC: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25034258/ RCC staging survey: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29878933/ IJSP website: https://journals.sagepub.com/home/IJS Featured public domain music: US Army Blues, BugaBlue

In this edition of IHC Talk, Dr. Mike Arnold (@MArnold_PedPath), Dr. Andrew Bellizzi (@IHC_guy), and Dr. Sanam Loghavi (@sanamloghavi) delve into the exciting (and sometimes intimidating!) world of Artificial Intelligence and its potential to revolutionize pathology. They’re joined by special guest Dr. Matt Cecchini (@Path_Matt), a pathologist with a keen interest in AI. What you’ll discover: Matt’s unorthodox path to Pathology The role of IHC in conjunction with AI. The need for rigor and consistency in data How can the practicing pathologist work with AI to improve? Get ready for a lively discussion that covers everything from image analysis and mitigating bias to AI agents. The crew dives deep into real-world examples, current tools like ChatGPT, and even the ethical considerations as AI takes on more responsibilities in diagnostic settings. Is AI about to replace pathologists, or can it augment our abilities to deliver better patient care? Listen in and explore the possibilities with this engaging episode! Thanks to Dr. Matt Cecchini for using Gemini to generate our episode description, and ChatGPT to generate the cover art! Featured public domain music: Alpha Hydrae, Won’t see it comin’.

In this episode, Dr. Margaret Collins of Cincinnati Children’s Hospital speaks hosts Dr. Jason Wang and Dr. Michael Arnold (@MArnold_PedPath) about the Pediatric and Developmental Pathology Podcast. Hear about the journal Pediatric and Developmental Pathology, and what makes it unique. We also listen back to the first episode of the Pediatric and Developmental Pathology Podcast, featuring a conversation about the article co-authored by Dr. Collins, Eosinophilic Gastrointestinal Disorders: A New Path. Featured public domain music: Main Stem by US Army Blues

In this segment, Beyond the Scope, we speak to pathologists about their pursuits and interests in and outside of pathology. On this episode, host Dr. Sara Jiang (@Sara_Jiang) speaks with Dr. Ritu Nayar (@NayarRitu). Dr. Nayar is the Vice Chair of Education and Faculty Development in the Department of Pathology at the Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine, where she is also the Director of Cytopathology and Professor of Pathology. Dr. Nayar is also the Past President of the American Society for Cytopathology, a past member of the Executive Council of the International Academy of Cytology and is currently a Trustee and President of the American Board of Pathology. She has published over 200 papers, including her work on The Bethesda System for Reporting Cervical Cytology. She has been recognized with lifetime achievement awards from College of American Pathologists, American Society of Cytopathology and the International Academy of Cytology. Links to papers referenced in the episode: Nayar, R. Cervical cancer prevention in the United States—where we’ve been and where we’re going: The American Cancer Society Primary HPV Screening Initiative. Cancer Cytopathology https://doi.org/10.1002/cncy.22733 Implementation in action: Collaborating on the transition to primary HPV screening for cervical cancer in the United States - PubMed (nih.gov). CA Cancer J Clin . 2023 Sep-Oct;73(5):458-460. doi: 10.3322/caac.21786. Epub 2023 Jun 22. The time has come to implement primary human papillomavirus screening for cervical cancer in the United States - Franco - 2023 - Cancer - Wiley Online Library. https://doi.org/10.1002/cncr.34899 Nayar, R. Precision Prevention: The 2019 ASCCP Risk-Based Management Consensus Guidelines for Abnormal Cervical Cancer Screening Tests and Cancer Precursors. J. Mol. Pathol. 2021, 2, 274-280. https://doi.org/10.3390/jmp2030023 Featured public domain music: US Army Blues, BugaBlue

In this series, PathPod gathers pathologists Around The Scope to discuss their work in depth. In this episode, we hear from the authors of a Letter to the Editor titled Pathology and Abortion Rights Advocacy: Considerations in a Post-Roe World, published in the American Journal of Clinical Pathology (@ajcpjournal). Dr. Mike Arnold (@MArnold_PedPath) speaks with authors Dr. Jeremy Jacobs (@jwjacobs12), Dr. Nicole Jackson (@NicoleJacksonMD), Dr. Anne Mills (@AnneMillsMD), Dr. Elisheva Shanes (@ElishevaShanes), and Dr. Garrett Booth (@DrGSBooth1) about how the end of Roe v. Wade has impacted patient care pathologists provide, from perinatal pathology, cancer care, transfusion medicine, to forensic and autopsy pathology. Featured public domain music: Main Stem by US Army Blues

The Chromogen Siblings are back to talk about the proposed VALID Act. Drs. Mike Arnold (@MArnold_PedPath), Andrew Bellizzi (@IHC_guy), and Sanam Loghavi (@sanamloghavi) speak with Dr. Emily Volk (@EEVMD) of the University of Louisville and President of the College of American Pathologists (CAP, @Pathologists), and Dr. Jonathan Myles (@JonathanMyles10) of the Cleveland Clinic and Chair of the Council on Government and Professional Affairs for the College of American Pathologists. The VALID act has both strong support and strong opposition from groups such as patient advocacy groups and professional organizations. We’ll learn about how the proposed VALID Act could change the way laboratory developed testing is regulated, the role of CAP in shaping legislation, and why CAP is supportive of the current version of the VALID Act despite concerns. Read more about the CAP position on the VALID Act: https://www.cap.org/advocacy/laboratory-oversight-and-regulation/laboratory-developed-test-oversight/laboratory-developed-test-oversight-faqs And previous regulatory issues that have shaped the proposed VALID Act: Ovisure letter from the FDA: https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/ivd-regulatory-assistance/ovasuretm-manufacturer-letter New York Times Article on Prenatal Testing: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/01/upshot/pregnancy-birth-genetic-testing.html Featured public domain music: Alpha Hydrae, Won’t see it comin’. Featured public domain cover image: https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/us-capitol-building

In this series, PathPod gathers pathologists Around The Scope to discuss their work in depth. Today, we learn about renal pathology. Our host, Dr. Sara Jiang (@Sara_Jiang) speaks with Dr. Mei Lin Bissonnette (@BCRenalPath), Director of the British Columbia Provincial Renal Pathology Laboratory, Dr. Carla Ellis (@theglasspusher), Director of Renal Pathology in the Department of Pathology at Northwestern University, Dr. Alcino Gama (@AlcinoGama), PGY2 at Northwestern Pathology, and Dr. Vighnesh Walavalkar (@vighnesh_w), Director of Histology at the University of California San Francisco. What is new and exciting in the field of renal pathology? How is the Renal Pathology Society supporting DEI efforts? What is two-handed fly fishing? Learn about these questions as well as about our expert guests! Renal pathology society: https://www.renalpathsoc.org/ https://www.renalpathsoc.org/Diversity-Equity-and-Inclusion https://www.facebook.com/renalpathologysociety Twitter: @Renalpathsoc Public domain music: Main Stem by US Army Blues