The Plain People's Podcast

This week, we're shifting locations and perspective. Instead of Ohio, we're heading to Missouri, where I sit down with a former member of the Grandin church. Raised by a single mother, she shares her story of being brought into the church as a young girl—navigating a world she didn't choose, and learning how to survive within it. In Part 1 of this two-part conversation, we explore the complexity of being brought into a high-control religious environment against your will, the pressure to conform, and the quiet adaptations people make just to get through each day. This episode offers a nuanced look at identity, belonging, and survival inside the plain community. Part 2 will continue her story and dive deeper into what comes next. Listen now and follow along as we continue uncovering stories from within plain communities. Follow & Support: Substack: The Plain People's Project – https://substack.com/@theplainpeoplesproject Website: https://www.theplainpeoplespodcast.com Instagram: the plain peoples podcast

Last year, over 300 abuse cases were documented by what is known as the "Restoration Team" in Holmes and Wayne County, Ohio. Fewer than 10 of those cases ever made it to the Wayne County Sheriff's Office. So what's happening in between? In this episode, Jasper brings you into the beginning of her investigation into the Restoration Team—an Amish-led intervention group presented to churches as a safe haven for handling abuse within the community. What unfolds is not a simple system, but a layered and complex structure involving steering committees, church authority, and internal processes that shape how—and if—abuse cases move forward. These recordings capture conversations with Amish women in real time, as they describe the barriers they face when trying to report abuse, seek help, and pursue justice. This episode is intentionally left as it was originally recorded, allowing listeners to follow the learning process as it happened—before later developments and deeper understanding came to light. In the next episode, we expand on this conversation with insight from Ohio law enforcement and revisit a case referenced here, including new developments. This is where the conversation begins. Links & Resources: Substack: ⁠The Plain People's Project⁠ Website: ⁠theplainpeoplespodcast.com⁠ Instagram: ⁠The Plain People's Podcast⁠

For years, Mennonite and Amish women have quietly spoken about "the facilities" — residential programs where church members are sent for restoration, discipline, or mental health support. But what exactly are these places? In this episode of The Plain People's Podcast, Jasper Hoffman begins unpacking one of the most complex and hidden barriers facing Amish and Anabaptist survivors: a network of unlicensed and unregistered residential treatment facilities operating across multiple states. This series features Amish women speaking in their own words about their experiences inside these programs and the pressure they faced when being sent away. Drawing on years of investigation, survivor interviews, and newly obtained documents — including an updated Mental Health Facility Research Guide issued by the Amish Steering Committee — Jasper explores how these facilities are organized, how they avoid oversight, and how families are guided to select programs based on theology, obedience to ministry leadership, and views on reporting abuse. Many women who enter these facilities are described as "choosing" to go. But as one Amish woman told Jasper: "If no is not an option, then yes is not a choice." Over the next several weeks, we will examine the role these facilities play within a larger system involving ministry leadership, restoration teams, tourism economies, and community power structures. Before crimes can be solved, they first have to be seen. Topics discussed in this episode: Amish communities, Amish women, Amish abuse, Amish mental health, residential treatment facilities, unlicensed treatment centers, religious trauma, Anabaptist communities, cult recovery, investigative journalism, and survivor advocacy. Support & Resources This investigation is made possible by listeners and supporters who help fund continued research and reporting. To learn more, read additional research, and support this work: Website: www.plainpeoplespodcast.com Substack: The Plain People's Project https://plainpeoplesproject.substack.com

The Ruth Miller trial begins in Ohio this week, and I'm heading there for full bench trial coverage. Before we get into courtroom testimony, this episode lays some groundwork — the work happening quietly inside Amish and Mennonite (Plain) communities, the barriers women face when trying to seek help, and the ongoing conversations with local and federal agencies who are often navigating cultural nuances from the outside. I also read a letter sent to the Ohio Attorney General's Office by women from the community where Ruth was living. And while Ruth was not involved in writing the letter, nor does it tie into her trial in any way, it reflects broader concerns from women in the community as a whole — many describing feeling unseen and unheard. While Ruth's case is the current focus, there are many voices and lived experiences that give context to what's unfolding in the communities around. Much of that context hasn't been publicly heard until now. Follow ongoing reporting at: The Plain People's Project on Substack: https://substack.com/@theplainpeoplesproject www.theplainpeoplespodcast.com

From Groffdale Conference Mennonite to Black Bumper (Horning) to Breaking Amish season 5, Dawn has been on a momentous journey. We were fortunate to sit down and spend some time talking about what is real in the process of shooting reality tv and find out where she is today.

Last week we introduced you to the incredible Deb....also known as Moxie. This week we pick back up in the story and learn how Deb hiked the entire Appalachian Trail and the fierce tenacity that drove her to finish.

In February of this year Mennonite Abuse Prevention published an investigation into the ''ministerial sexual misconduct" of co-pastor at Lorraine Avenue Mennonite Church, Tom Harder. Dr. Stephanie Krehbiel, executive director of IntoAccount.org prepared the analysis for MAP's post, and spoke with us about her findings. To read the MAP post, click here. https://www.themaplist.org/the-map-list/tom-harder/ To access full transcripts of messages and emails used as evidence in this case, click here. https://www.themaplist.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Tom-Harder-Transcript-of-Facebook-and-email-conversation-between-Tom-Harder-and-student-S-redacted.pdf

Anna Mae grew up within the Old Order Amish community, where therapy was not even a concept. After leaving the church and wrestling with depression, she decided to Google for the "best therapist in Nashville", which lead her to Chris Hancock, LCSW, ACMHP. As the owner of Therapy Outside The Box, Chris opens up about his experience working with Anna Mae, and Anna Mae shares how therapy has helped her become the woman she is today. You can find Chris at https://www.therapyoutsidethebox.com/

In early 2019, shortly after sharing what we then believed to be the entirely of Audrey's horrific abuse story, the floodgates opened when it was discovered that her ex husband had brutally sexually assaulted her children for years. Through yet another battle of unbelievable odds, Audrey was back in court, but not with just her ex-husband, but her ex-father in law, an Amish Bishop. But whatever for? Surely not those letters so many of us tossed in the trash after we left our church. Or was it......

Laura shares her experience adjusting to life outside of her family and where she is today.

Michelle shares her experience within the strict Elmo Stoll community, the struggles with a mentally ill father, spousal rape and life after the church.

We pick up with Josh explaining the details behind the Mennonite and Amish facility, Fresh Start and find out where he is today.