
The Human Operating System: A New Way to Think About Cyber Risk with Kate Goldman
From The Professional CISO by David Malicoat
October 13, 2025 · 41 min · Episode 87
About this episode
David Malicoat and Kate Goldman discuss rethinking human risk and resilience in cybersecurity.
Episode Summary In this episode, David Malicoat sits down with Kate Goldman , founder and CEO of Cybermaniacs , to challenge one of cybersecurity’s oldest assumptions — that humans are the weakest link . Kate argues it’s time for CISOs to rethink human risk , culture , and resilience in the modern organization. Together, David and Kate explore the emerging field of Human Risk Management , the idea of the Human Operating System , and how leaders can leverage psychology, culture, and AI to build resilient teams that thrive in the age of digital transformation. Key Takeaways Why the phrase “humans are the weakest link” needs to be retired. The concept of the Human Operating System — and how to “patch” human vulnerabilities. How to evolve from compliance-based awareness to behavior-based resilience. Why culture, psychology, and norms are the real keys to cybersecurity success. The intersection of AI and human risk — and how workforce roles must evolve. Why the next wave of cyber resilience will require rethinking training, learning, and leadership . Notable Quotes “Humans aren’t the weakest link — they’re the core operating system of your business.” — Kate Goldman “You can’t…
People in this episode
Host: David Malicoat
Guest: Kate Goldman
Topics covered
- cybersecurity
- human risk management
- organizational culture
- resilience
- digital transformation
- AI in cybersecurity
Keywords
- human operating system
- cyber risk
- CISO
- behavior-based resilience
- AI
- cyber resilience
- organizational culture
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Cybermaniacs
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