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75 | Ger Jones on Evangelism that Listens First
Jun 4, 2026
1h 06m 48s
74 | Esau McCaulley on Preaching Truth with Biblical Integrity
May 8, 2026
57m 05s
73 | Stewarding Authority & Creating a Culture of Feedback
Apr 16, 2026
47m 52s
72 | Luke and Anna Hellebronth on Worship Leadership & Alignment
Mar 26, 2026
1h 17m 41s
71 | Jay Kim on AI, Tech, & Ministry
Mar 12, 2026
55m 58s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 6/4/26 | 75 | Ger Jones on Evangelism that Listens First✨ | evangelismlistening+3 | Ger Jones | Vintage ChurchAlpha | — | evangelismlistening+5 | — | 1h 06m 48s | |
| 5/8/26 | 74 | Esau McCaulley on Preaching Truth with Biblical Integrity✨ | preachingbiblical integrity+3 | Esau McCaulley | Barna Group | — | preachingbiblical integrity+3 | — | 57m 05s | |
| 4/16/26 | 73 | Stewarding Authority & Creating a Culture of Feedback✨ | stewarding authoritypastoral leadership+3 | — | — | — | authorityfeedback+3 | — | 47m 52s | |
| 3/26/26 | 72 | Luke and Anna Hellebronth on Worship Leadership & Alignment✨ | worship leadershipsenior pastors+4 | Glenn PackiamLuke Hellebronth+1 | Rockharbor Church | — | worshipleadership+5 | — | 1h 17m 41s | |
| 3/12/26 | 71 | Jay Kim on AI, Tech, & Ministry✨ | technologyAI+3 | Jay Kim | Silicon Valley | — | AItechnology+3 | — | 55m 58s | |
| 2/26/26 | 70 | Leading with Your Board of Elders✨ | leadershipboard of elders+4 | Glenn PackiamRich Villodas+1 | Barna | — | leadershipelders+5 | — | 36m 48s | |
| 2/12/26 | 69 | Edgar Sandoval on Leading Through Change & the Impact of Global Missions✨ | leadershipglobal missions+3 | Edgar Sandoval | World Vision | — | leadershipchange+3 | — | 1h 03m 16s | |
| 1/29/26 | 68 | Tyler and Kirsten Staton on Sustaining Spiritual Formation & Connection in Marriage✨ | marriagespiritual formation+5 | Tyler StatonKirsten Staton | — | — | marriagespiritual gifts+5 | — | 1h 02m 07s | |
| 1/15/26 | 67 | Gabe and Jeanette Salguero on Pastoring Families in a Changing Culture✨ | pastoring familieschanging culture+3 | Gabe SalgueroJeanette Salguero | Barna | — | pastoringfamilies+5 | — | 57m 37s | |
| 1/1/26 | 66 | The Relationships of Today’s Pastors with David Kinnaman✨ | pastoral relationshipsrelational loneliness+5 | Rich VillodasGlenn Packiam+1 | Barna GroupWorld Vision | — | pastorsrelationships+6 | — | 44m 43s | |
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| 12/11/25 | 65 | Bryan Loritts on the Future of Preaching✨ | future of preachingcongregation communication+3 | Bryan Loritts | Barna Group | — | preachingcongregation+4 | — | 57m 57s | |
| 11/27/25 | 64 | Discipling Your Church in Generosity | Send us Fan Mail Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas, and Sharon Hodde Miller explore how pastors can disciple their churches toward worshipful, year-round generosity rooted in trust and vision. Framed by Barna research, they discuss how to cultivate healthy giving cultures, build trust with congregants, and wisely guide churches through year-end giving seasons and large capital campaigns. Text BARNA to 55123 to get your free Mission-Based Budgeting guide from BELAY, helping pastors and churches thr... | 33m 17s | ||||||
| 11/13/25 |  63 | Jenni Catron on Leading & Sustaining a Healthy Staff Culture | Send us Fan Mail In this episode, Sharon sits down with leadership coach Jenni Catron (founder of the 4Sight Group) to discuss what it takes to cultivate and sustain a thriving church staff culture. Together, they unpack how trust, clarity, and intentional systems help teams flourish, while reminding leaders that every role in the church is mission critical. Jenni offers practical wisdom for building trust through character and competency, creating healthy feedback rhythms, and stewarding the... | 1h 04m 42s | ||||||
| 10/31/25 |  62 | The Surprising Shift in Church Attendance – with David Kinnaman & Ashley LaLonde | Send us Fan Mail Barna’s newest research reveals a stunning reversal: for the first time in decades, men are attending church more than women. Host Rich Villodas sits down with David Kinnaman and Ashley LaLonde from Barna to unpack what’s driving this shift and what it means for pastors and leaders. From purity culture to politics, Gen Z to single moms, this conversation offers both empathy and practical insight for churches navigating today’s changing spiritual landscape. Episode Links Text ... | 1h 01m 45s | ||||||
| 10/16/25 |  61 | Pastoring in Polarized Times | Send us Fan Mail In this episode of The Resilient Pastor Podcast, Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas, and Sharon Hodde Miller discuss how pastors can lead with wisdom and calm in polarized times. Drawing from Barna research and their own pastoral experiences, they explore what it means to be a non-anxious presence, when to speak (and when to stay silent), and how to shepherd a politically diverse congregation with humility, prayer, and conviction. Episode Links Free Resource from Our Partner, BEL... | 41m 40s | ||||||
| 5/8/25 |  60 | Nona Jones on Embracing Rejection & Finding Strength in Ministry | Send us Fan Mail Sharon Hodde Miller talks with Nona Jones about how rejection can shape your purpose and strengthen your ministry. Drawing from her own experiences in leadership, Nona shares how pastors can process hurt, set healthy expectations in relationships and stay resilient in the face of challenges. Episode Links Download Barna's Thriving Church booklet for 15 key dimensions of church health at barna.com/measuring-what-matters.Check out Nona Jones's book, The Gift of Rejection, wher... | 46m 36s | ||||||
| 4/24/25 |  59 | Jackie Hill Perry & Preston Perry on Screen Time, Family Rhythms & Ministry Life | Send us Fan Mail Rich Villodas talks with Jackie Hill Perry and Preston Perry about navigating the pull of technology, setting healthy family rhythms and keeping their marriage strong in the midst of ministry demands. They share honest insights on creating space for connection, managing digital distractions and trusting God with the pressures of parenting and leadership. Episode Links Download Barna's Thriving Church booklet for 15 key dimensions of church health at Barna.com/measuring-what-... | 47m 01s | ||||||
| 4/10/25 |  58 | Robby Angle on Building Discipleship Cultures, Small Groups & Embracing Slow Growth | Send us Fan Mail Sharon Hodde Miller talks with Robby Angle about relational discipleship, building small groups that foster real growth and why changing church culture takes time. They explore practical steps for investing in leaders, cultivating meaningful relationships and trusting God with the slow but lasting work of discipleship. Episode Links Learn how RightNow Pastors Plus equips ministry leaders with on-demand training at rnow.me/plus.Check out True Face for resources on rela... | 45m 15s | ||||||
| 3/27/25 |  57 | Tyler Staton on Making Room for the Spirit & Reaching a Spiritually Open Generation | Send us Fan Mail Rich Villodas talks with Tyler Staton about helping people experience God in meaningful ways. They explore practical steps for creating space for the Holy Spirit, how to pastor in a spiritually open culture and why awakening desire is key to connecting with today's generation. Tyler also shares insights on preaching, prayer and learning to lead with courage. Episode Links Download Barna's Thriving Church booklet for 15 key dimensions of church health at barna.com/measuring-w... | 51m 44s | ||||||
| 3/13/25 |  56 | Daniel Muvengi on Parenting in a Digital Age & Supporting Pastors Globally | Send us Fan Mail Glenn Packiam sits down with Dr. Daniel Muvengi (from World Vision International) to discuss the challenges pastors in Kenya are navigating, the pressures of parenting in ministry and how the Church is working to strengthen families. They also explore ways that churches in the West can learn from the resilience and perspectives of the global church. Episode Links Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.Get World Vision’s free resource on parenting: Parenting the ... | 44m 16s | ||||||
| 2/27/25 |  55 | Lisa Fields on Discipling Through Doubt & Deconstruction | Send us Fan Mail David Kinnaman sits down with Lisa Fields, founder and CEO of the Jude 3 Project, to discuss how pastors can disciple people through doubt, deconstruction and spiritual disappointment. She shares practical wisdom on listening well, fostering spiritual healing and leading from a place of emotional health. Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller open the conversation by reflecting on the realities of deconstruction in their own ministry contexts, the importance of ... | 43m 35s | ||||||
| 2/13/25 |  54 | Jennie Allen on the Global Church & a Generation Hungry for Revival | Send us Fan Mail Rich Villodas sits down with Jennie Allen, founder of IF:Gathering and Gather25, to talk about mobilizing the global church and discipling the next generation. Jennie describes the growing spiritual hunger she’s witnessing across the world, how pastors can help their churches connect with the global movement of God, and why now is the time for believers everywhere to unite in prayer, worship and mission. She also shares the vision behind Gather25, a 25-hour global event that ... | 50m 09s | ||||||
| 1/30/25 |  53 | Jay Kim on Team Health & Leadership Development | Send us Fan Mail In this episode, Glenn Packiam sits down with Jay Kim, lead pastor of WestGate Church in Silicon Valley, to discuss how to cultivate healthy teams in ministry. Jay shares actionable insights on fostering trust, navigating generational shifts in team dynamics and implementing consistent feedback loops to support growth and alignment for church teams. Episode Links Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.Sign up for the free State of the Church 2025 webcast at StateoftheC... | 57m 00s | ||||||
| 1/16/25 |  52 | Shaila Visser & Dan Blythe on Evangelism and Engaging the Open Generation | Send us Fan Mail Glenn Packiam sits down with Shaila Visser, National Director of Alpha Canada and Dan Blythe, Global Youth Director for Alpha, to explore how pastors and church leaders can reimagine evangelism in today’s cultural landscape. Together, they share key findings from The Open Generation research and the creation of the Youth Alpha film series, offering practical insights on fostering intergenerational ministry, empowering young leaders and creating authentic spaces for faith expl... | 48m 13s | ||||||
| 1/2/25 |  51 | 3 Ways to Strengthen Your Marriage in Ministry (Live Recording) | Send us Fan Mail Join Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller for a special live recording of The Resilient Pastor podcast as they explore the unique challenges ministry places on marriages. Together, they share practical insights, actionable steps and key strategies to help leaders safeguard their relationships and overcome common hurdles. Whether you're looking to strengthen your partnership or connect with others navigating similar challenges, this episode offers valuable wisd... | 41m 35s | ||||||
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