The Retirement and IRA Show

Chris’s SummaryJim and I continue our discussion of the New York Times article titled “You Saved and Saved for Retirement. Now You Need a Plan to Cash Out,” focusing on Retirement Spending Phases as the article moves into go-go, slow-go, and no-go years. We walk through how the article is using that framework and how it compares with how we approach retirement planning, particularly in how different types of spending behave and how that ties to Social Security, pensions, and simple annuities. Jim’s “Pithy” SummaryChris and I pick back up with the New York Times article from last week and this time we focus on Retirement Spending Phases and how that go-go, slow-go, no-go framework is being used. I’m not saying the concept is wrong. I’m saying if you apply it across everything, you’re going to miss the point. Because not all expenses behave the same way. Your Minimum Dignity Floor is there no matter what. Your Fun Number is what actually changes depending on how you’re living your life. If you don’t separate those, you can end up making decisions that don’t reflect reality. That’s really the issue we keep coming back to as we walk through this and react to how the article is presenting it. And that’s where this starts to matter. Because once you’re thinking about what has to be covered versus what can change, you’re dealing with different kinds of decisions. That’s where Social Security, pensions, and annuities come into the conversation. Not as a blanket solution, but as part of figuring out how different pieces of a plan are supposed to work depending on the job they’re trying to do. And it’s why you can’t just treat everything the same and expect the outcome to make sense over time, especially as those phases play out differently across different types of spending. The post Retirement Spending Phases: EDU #2617 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

Chris’s Summary Jim and I discuss retirement spending plans through the lens of a New York Times article titled “You Saved and Saved for Retirement. Now You Need a Plan to Cash Out,” reviewing its key arguments about decumulation and where we agree, question, or hold no opinion. We cover why the Minimum Dignity Floor rarely fails in projections, why the 4% rule may be an outdated framework for structuring retirement withdrawals, how individual inflation rates for specific expense categories can produce more accurate projections than a single blended rate, and why underspending on fun during the go-go years may pose a greater risk than outliving assets for many listeners. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary Chris and I dig into a New York Times article — “You Saved and Saved for Retirement. Now You Need a Plan to Cash Out” — and use it as a jumping-off point to talk about what spending in retirement actually looks like in practice versus what the industry has been selling people for decades. Here’s what struck me most: the 4% rule was created in 1994 with rudimentary spreadsheets, and the recommended safe withdrawal rate swings from 2.8 to 4.7 depending on who you ask and what year it is. That’s supposed to be your anchor? Are you watching TVs that look like the ones from 30 years ago? Talking on the same phones? My beeper evolved into a smartphone with more computing power than the Apollo mission, and yet most of the industry is still essentially creating retirement spending plans with a beeper. What the Fun Number framework helps clarify is that you don’t need a universal withdrawal percentage. You need to isolate your actual expenses, inflate each one at the rate that reflects how that spending actually grows — not some blended average — and then see clearly what’s left for fun. The article also makes the point that fearful retirees may scrimp during their go-go years when they could afford to spend — and that’s something my dad reinforced in his own way. He’d watch people in his retirement community who had money but couldn’t bring themselves to spend it on fun, and he called them Debbie Downers. For many people listening to this podcast, that’s the real risk — not outliving your assets but failing to spend on fun while you still can. The post Retirement Spending Plans: EDU #2616 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

Chris’s SummaryJim and I are joined by Jake as we discuss tax rules and mistakes through two tax-focused PSAs before moving into listener emails. Jake covers a denied non-cash charitable deduction due to an incomplete Form 8283 and missing contemporaneous documentation, then walks through how estimated tax payments and safe harbor rules are calculated from prior-year tax liability. We then address listener emails on establishing home basis after a spouse’s death, how the senior deduction is reduced for married couples, and comparing IRA versus Roth withdrawal strategies. Jim’s “Pithy” SummaryChris and I are joined by Jake as we spend some time on two tax-focused PSAs from Jake before getting into listener emails. Jake walks through a tax court case where a non-cash charitable donation was denied because Form 8283 wasn’t completed correctly and the required documentation wasn’t done at the time—even though the donation itself was valid. This highlights how strict tax rules and mistakes around them can cost you. He also breaks down estimated tax payments—those quarterly amounts that show up on your return after you’ve already paid what you owed—and how they’re calculated off the prior year to get you into the safe harbor. We then get into a situation involving a home purchased in the early 1970s, no improvements over the years, a spouse passing in a community property state, and now the question of what the basis actually is and how to determine it years later without anything documented at the time, which is more common than you’d think. There’s also a question on the senior deduction where the reduction ends up applying to each spouse, which changes the expected result. Finally, we look at two different withdrawal approaches using traditional IRA and Roth accounts over the next few years, and how those choices shift balances and taxes depending on how the income is sourced and what you’re actually trying to accomplish with it. The post Tax Rules and Mistakes: EDU #2615 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

Chris’s Summary Jim and I share retirement lessons learned from a listener’s account of his mother. Her husband’s survivor pension elections, combined with Social Security, left her a unicorn — secure income covering all expenses — yet she died regretting trips never taken despite a $9 million portfolio. The episode also covers why joint account ownership with adult children can create legal exposure, and the importance of funding a living trust while you are still healthy. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary Chris and I walk through three retirement lessons learned from a listener whose mother passed at nearly 100 years old — what she did right, what she regretted, and what almost worked but she ran out of time. Lesson 1: Her husband elected survivor options on his pensions, and combined with Social Security, she had a steady stream of lifetime income long after he was gone. He thought ahead and protected her. Lesson 2: That income, combined with a modest lifestyle, allowed her to amass millions and become what we call a unicorn — guaranteed income that covered every expense, discretionary and otherwise. But she died with regrets, not because she ran out of money but because she could never bring herself to spend it. Her son urged her repeatedly to spend more on fun, but she was a child of the Depression, and that created a mindset that no amount of counseling could change until it was too late. Her husband, who died at 66 was “the other guy” — he probably expected to live at least into his 80s — so did not get to enjoy the money either. These are exactly the kinds of situations the Fun Number was built for. Lesson 3: She did do a great deal right with her estate — POA designations in place and proper beneficiary designations so no assets were subject to probate. She even had a living trust in the works – but she ran out of time to fund it, and that distinction — between having a living trust and actually funding it — is a surprisingly common mistake people make when they set one up. The post Retirement Lessons Learned: EDU #2614 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

If you would like to skip over the guys’ banter this week about Jim’s experience going to a Cincinnati Reds game, you can go to (7:00). Chris’s SummaryJim and I are joined by Jacob as we revisit buffered ETF mechanics in light of recent market volatility and explain why 100% and 20% buffers can still show interim losses. We also cover how renewals work, why resets are not taxable events in brokerage accounts, where these products may fit in retirement positioning, and a listener email comparing them with bonds and fixed indexed annuities. Jim’s “Pithy” SummaryChris and I are joined by Jacob as we go back into buffered ETF mechanics during a stretch where people are actually seeing movement in these products and questioning what they own. When markets pull back, even modestly, the expectation is that protection means no decline at all. Jacob walks through why that is not how these function in real time, and why a 100% buffered ETF can still show a small loss while a 20% buffered ETF can show more, even when the market decline remains within the stated buffer range. The distinction comes down to how these are priced day to day versus how the protection applies over the defined outcome period. We also clarify how renewals work, what happens when values reset higher or lower, and how that process functions within a brokerage account. The discussion also covers how these may fit within portfolio positioning depending on how the dollars are being used. Jacob outlines how full principal protection may be used for nearer-term spending needs, including the Minimum Dignity Floor, while partial buffers may apply to longer time horizons where some level of downside can be accepted in exchange for additional upside potential. A listener email introduces the idea of using these as ballast, along with a comparison to bonds and fixed indexed annuities, including differences in liquidity, tax treatment, fee transparency, and how returns are delivered. The post Buffered ETF Mechanics: EDU #2613 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

Note: In this episode some information regarding the 5-year rule was misstated – one must get through the fifth, not just be in the fifth year. Jim and Chris clarify on the April 4, 2026 Q&A #2614 episode. If you would like to skip over Jim and Chris’s banter on the weather, that manages to touch on Colorado water rights (an issue many east of the Mississippi probably find baffling), then you can start listening at (11:45). Chris’s Summary Jim and I continue our look through the Ed Slott IRA quiz, covering IRA recharacterization rules, how a surviving spouse may use a deceased spouse’s five year period following a spousal rollover, which IRA funds can roll into an employer plan, and the timing trap that can unravel the strategy of using an employer plan to separate after-tax basis from pre-tax funds. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary Chris and I are continuing our run through the Ed Slott IRA quiz — the questions Ed sends out after his twice-yearly training sessions to make sure advisors know not just the right answer but the reasoning behind it. That reasoning is where most people get tripped up, and this episode has several good examples of exactly that. We start with IRA recharacterization rules — the deadline, what has to happen at the custodian level, how attributable gains or losses factor into the math, and a conversion planning tool that Congress took away in the 2018 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. It was a strategy that made conversion timing far more forgiving than it is today, and the fact that it is gone still stings. From there we get into the Roth IRA five-year rules — specifically a spousal rollover scenario with a twist that most people, including Chris, do not see coming. The answer turns on a benefit the tax code extends to surviving spouses that is easy to overlook if you are not specifically looking for it. We wrap up with which IRA funds can actually be rolled into an employer plan and why that distinction matters if you are sitting on after-tax basis inside a traditional IRA. There is a clean strategy for separating it, but there is also a timing mistake that catches people who think they have successfully pulled it off — when they have not. More people fall into that trap than you would expect, and the consequences are not trivial. The post Ed Slott IRA Quiz Continued: EDU #2612 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

Chris’s Summary Jim and I discuss the Ed Slott quiz questions from his November advisor training, opening with the widow/widower tax penalty and required beginning dates for IRA required minimum distributions before moving into inherited IRA rules — year of death RMDs with multiple beneficiaries and the deadline for satisfying them, spousal rollover options, and spousal RMD timing. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary Chris and I dig into the Ed Slott quiz from my November advisor training — 20 questions, open book, and I scored 100 this time. We have been doing this for years and it is not just a matter of asking the question, giving the answer and moving on. We get into the rabbit holes, explain the nuances, and use it as a chance for everybody listening to test their own knowledge. We open with the widow/widower tax penalty and required beginning dates for IRA required minimum distributions — and the widow/widower question has nothing to do with IRAs but everything to do with retirement planning. The younger a spouse passes away the more intense the penalty, and the longer both of you live together the less it bites. From there we get deep into inherited IRA rules, which make up the bulk of the episode. How year of death RMDs work when there are multiple beneficiaries, and what the deadline is for satisfying them — there is a question in here that Ed Slott himself argued both sides of for years because the IRS never gave guidance until July 2024. We close on spousal rollover options and RMD timing rules that only apply to surviving spouses. A spouse has choices that no other beneficiary has, and the decision of which way to go can look very different depending on the ages involved. Chris makes the point well — whenever a spouse dies, hit the pause button before you do anything. The post Ed Slott Quiz – Widow(er) Tax Penalty and Inherited IRA Rules: EDU #2611 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

Chris’s Summary With Jim at the T3 conference in New Orleans, I am joined by Jake Turner to cover how to factor a defined benefit pension into retirement planning, using the situation of a 45-year-old law enforcement officer with a non-covered pension as the backdrop. We walk through evaluating his savings rate against the 15–20% rule of thumb, the lump sum equivalent value of his pension income, why the presence or absence of a COLA matters significantly, and how pension income fits into covering essential expenses over a long retirement. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary While I’m at the T3 conference in New Orleans, Chris and Jake use a listener’s situation to dig into retirement planning with a defined benefit pension. The listener is a 45-year-old law enforcement officer who has been contributing to his pension since day one but only started building outside accounts five years ago. He wants to know where he actually stands — and the answer is more nuanced than a simple savings rate comparison can capture. A big part of that nuance is whether the pension is a non-covered one, meaning it replaces Social Security rather than sitting alongside it. That single distinction changes how you benchmark the savings rate entirely, and it’s the kind of thing that gets glossed over when people just throw out rules of thumb without knowing what’s underneath them. Chris and Jake also get into how pension income fits against the Minimum Dignity Floor — and why a pension that looks rock solid at retirement can tell a very different story decades later if there’s no cost-of-living adjustment attached to it. There’s also a conversation worth hearing about lump sum options — what they’re actually worth, how to think about comparing them to the lifetime income stream, and why the big number isn’t always the better answer. If you have a defined benefit pension and you’ve been wondering how it fits into the bigger retirement picture, or whether you’re ahead or behind where you should be, this episode covers the framework for thinking it through. The post Retirement Planning With a Defined Benefit Pension: EDU #2610 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

Chris’s Summary Jim and I continue our discussion on 99 Retirement Tips from Fisher Investments, picking up where we left off last week. We cover involving children in financial decisions, the liquidity trade-off of paying off a mortgage early, renting before buying in a new retirement location, lifetime gifts as part of the fun budget, and watching for financial predators including a disputed suggestion that low advisor fees may be a warning sign. Jim’s “Pithy” Summary Chris and I are back where we left off, working through Fisher Investments’ 99 Retirement Tips, and there’s still plenty to dig into. Tip 23 makes the case for involving your children in your financial decisions — and the reasons go deeper than most people think about. Tip 26 gets into mortgage payoff, and while we partially agree with what Fisher says about it — paying it down doesn’t change your net worth. But it does change your liquidity, and that distinction is worth considering. Tip 32 is one I feel personally right now: if you’re relocating in retirement, rent first. Never move anywhere with a vacation mindset. I’m doing it in Ohio as we speak, and I’d tell anyone thinking about a move to do the same. Tip 74 recommends lifetime gifting — and the way we handle it, that spending belongs in your Fun Number budget. There’s no written rule you have to wait until you’re gone to help the people you care about. And tip 86 covers financial predators, which is largely solid — but there’s one line in there that made my blood boil when I read it. The implication is that an advisor charging lower fees might be a warning sign. I have never seen any consumer advocate say that. The 99 retirement tips review of this particular point raises a question worth sitting with: who exactly benefits from that framing? The post Fisher’s 99 Retirement Tips, Part 2: EDU #2609 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

Chris’s SummaryJim and I review Fisher Investments’ 99 Retirement Tips and begin working through the list, covering only a handful in this episode. We discuss estate planning basics such as having a will, the importance of reviewing estate documents, and considering living wills and trusts, with emphasis on incapacity planning. We then examine longevity statistics, why life expectancy at birth is often misapplied, and how that connects to retirement income decisions, including Fisher’s warning on annuities. Jim’s “Pithy” SummaryChris and I start digging into Fisher Investments’ 99 Retirement Tips and, true to form, we only make it through a few because I may have wandered down a rabbit hole or two. The estate planning stuff is straightforward—have a will, review it, don’t ignore the documents that matter if you’re alive but not fully capable. Death is easy administratively. Incapacity is where things get messy, and that’s where families struggle. And that’s where better planning matters most. Then we get into longevity. If you’re going to say people might live longer than they think, you better use the right numbers. Not the “life expectancy at birth” headline stat. If a couple makes it to 65, the odds shift. That matters. That changes the runway. That changes how you think about income. It also changes how long that portfolio has to work, and how long decisions have to hold up. And from there we run into the annuity warning. We’re not pro-annuity and we’re not anti-annuity. Many deserve criticism, but if longevity risk is real—and it can be—then you should evaluate lifetime income options on their merits. Social Security is guaranteed lifetime income. Income annuities are too, so they should belong in the conversation. Whether you use them depends on the situation, but you can’t talk about taking longevity seriously and then issue a blanket warning against annuities. The post Fisher’s 99 Retirement Tips: EDU # 2608 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

If you would rather not listen to the guys’ banter about Jacob’s upcoming move to Iowa, Jim’s garden planning, and a listener correction about the word “imbibe” you can skip ahead to (33:30). Chris’s SummaryJim and I are joined by Jacob Vonloh as we discuss using Buffered ETFs prompted by a Morningstar article titled “Buffer ETFs Are Not for Everyone.” We explain how defined outcome ETFs use options to provide an explicit amount of loss protection over a given period while limiting potential gains, and we outline why these products are generally suboptimal for long-term investors. We then connect this to investment positioning, focusing on risk capacity, distribution planning, and why dollars assigned to delay-period Minimum Dignity Floor and Go-Go spending may require a degree of principal protection. Jim’s “Pithy” SummaryChris and I are joined by Jacob Vonloh as we take a listener-submitted Morningstar article—“Buffer ETFs are not for Everyone”—and use it to kick off what is going to be a series on principal protection. Morningstar does a very good job in this article laying out what it likes about buffered products, and it also makes some excellent points on where these types of products would fit and where they don’t fit. They’re not for everybody, but they could be of interest in certain cases, in a certain application, and we’re going to share how we use them. What I want to do in this series is broaden the conversation. Buffered ETFs are just one type of principal protected product. There are multiple tools in that category, and we’re going to walk through where they fit into distribution planning. As you transition from accumulation into what I call the Venn diagram phase, and ultimately into distribution, you have to stop thinking of your portfolio as one big portfolio and start thinking in terms of smaller portfolios—investment positions—based on assigned spending. Dollars earmarked for a legacy position can be invested aggressively. Dollars earmarked for immediate spending—like the Go-Go reserve or the reserve for your MDF—need a degree of principal protection. This ties directly into the Secure Retirement Income Process and the See Through Portfolio and how we navigate asset positioning in retirement.   Show Notes: Morningstar Buffered ETFs article The post Using Buffered ETFs: EDU #2607 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.

Chris’s SummaryJim and I are joined by Steve Sansone as we revisit Cash Balance Plans and respond to listener follow-up emails. (8:30) A CPA asks whether cash balance plans could be a fit for farmers with high income near retirement driven by deferred grain and equipment sales.(18:30) A listener with two controlled-group businesses asks how a cash balance plan works with divergent profit cycles, whether it can support succession planning, and whether it makes sense if ownership works until death.(36:45) A financial advisor asks for real-world details on costs, duplication/administration, duration, interest crediting rate risk, investment management, participant inclusion decisions, partner exits, lifetime maximums, and terminate/restart mechanics. Jim’s “Pithy” SummaryChris and I are joined by Steve Sansone as we dig back into cash balance plans, but this time we’re doing it by letting listener questions drive the conversation. We take three listener emails that each come at this from a different angle: one from a CPA working with farmers facing lumpy income near retirement, one from a family dealing with two controlled-group businesses that don’t behave the same way financially, and one from an advisor who’s basically saying, “Convince me this isn’t just theoretical.” Chris and I talk with Steve about what makes these plans work and what makes them a headache—cash flow consistency, the “permanence” expectation, why manufacturers with lots of employees can be a tough fit, and how quickly the math changes when you have to fund meaningful benefits for staff. We also get into the stuff people don’t always hear in the sales pitch: what “interest crediting” really means, where the risk lives if returns don’t cooperate, and why newer market-rate designs change the conversation compared to older fixed-rate versions. And we cover the messy real-life questions: what happens when partners leave, what it looks like to terminate and restart a plan, and why you can’t treat this like an investment strategy with a neat five-to-ten-year horizon. It’s a tax and retirement-acceleration tool with rules, tradeoffs, and guardrails—and Steve does a solid job laying out when it’s worth the complexity and when it’s just not. The post Cash Balance Plans Part 2: EDU #2606 appeared first on The Retirement and IRA Show.